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I'm an Arab, he's an Arab, she's an Arab, we're an Arab, wouldn't you like to be an Arab too?

Sung and danced to like this: http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/978

What a way to promote good tidings



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Thanks hash. I just realized you are the mod now. Congrats! Im sure you will do a great job.
He shoots puppies. He is not to be trusted.

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heliochrome85 wrote:Thanks hash. I just realized you are the mod now. Congrats! Im sure you will do a great job.
And in turn, it's extremely good to see you back in here.


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Where is 'Crazy McCain Rally Woman' from SNL when you need her?

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heliochrome85 wrote:Her position on abortion is scary
In what way??? I find it a little scarier that people can be so insensitive to killing.

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Before you go crying, saying "omg its a blog it must be trash," just read these articles.

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.c....html

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.c....html

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In what way??? I find it a little scarier that people can be so insensitive to killing.
Oh, i totally agree. in many if not most cases, abortion is the easy way out for teens/adults who are mature enough to play the game, but not enough to pay the price. My issue is that even in cases of rape? Incest? Danger to life of mother?

Im sorry, there must be exceptions. We live in the United States of America. How could we with any conscious allow for women to return to coathangers and soap? I want it to be safe, legal, and LIMITED.

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lasoyafan wrote:Before you go crying, saying "omg its a blog it must be trash," just read these articles.

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.c....html

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.c....html
HMMMM. Lets see here:

His bio is hilariously worded...http://www.kennethelamb.com/bio.htm

His blog has been tracked back by tons and tons of rather extreme blogs.

Sounds like quite the source you have. Whats next? Im sure Stormfront believes he is a african american...

Google it. Seriously.

Keep digging yourself this hole. Id be surprised if anyone came to your rescue.

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also, just go to his splashpage...http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/

real unbiased....

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Peoples ignorance is what brought Adolf Hitler to power. I would hate for you to be misinformed is all I'm saying.

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lasoyafan wrote:Before you go crying, saying "omg its a blog it must be trash," just read these articles.

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.c....html

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.c....html
Are you for real?

Is there any source data in that article? Are there links to actual genealogy that detail the so-called "Arab" origin of Obama's ancestors?

I just saw two walls of text that present essentially no facts but tons of conjecture. In fact, at one point the article even tells me to "check the records for myself" rather than actually linking to them. Why not link if they have legitimate backup?

Here's the blurb:

The answer is obvious: They have Arabic names because his father's side of the family tree is Arabic.

Need proof? Research the Kenyan records for yourself. You will find that his father was officially classified as "Arab African" by the Kenyan government.

So why not post these "Kenyan Records"?

I'm finding tons of websites with this same "6.25/43.75%" split, but NONE of them post a link to any concrete facts, just links to each other, LOL.

I found several references to Kenneth Lamb online and ALL of them say that he has yet to produce any hard evidence whatsoever. He's an extremist right-wing blogger of dubious credentials. Why would you just believe this?

I mean, I could start a blog and say that John McCain is an ex golfing buddy of Aldrich Ames or something, and then just not give any evidence. Would that make it true?

How about YOU go find the evidence. See if you can get hold of the Kenyan authorities if you want to believe this so badly. Take some real action, don't just believe shxt people feed you. If this guy doesn't want to give you evidence and instead says "check for yourself", why don't you go DO it?


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lasoyafan wrote:Peoples ignorance is what brought Adolf Hitler to power. I would hate for you to be misinformed is all I'm saying.
How ironic...Actually, it wasnt the people's ignorance, as so much the latent anti-semitism the sprung up in europe, particularly austria/germany following the first world war. He was brought to power because the people wanted to point to the jews as the source of their problems. How ironic that today, practically the same thing is ATTEMPTED in order to bring down Obama. It speaks to a latent racism in this country. It is not a crime to be black, nor is it a crime to be arab. Nor should it be. Thanks for furthering that agenda.

Marinate on that.

/Arab//Obama supporter///
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Now, do go grouping all of us bible thumping rednecks in your wide-blame game for that is FAR from the truth.

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you are right matt. its not right to group those groups together. ill edit.

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heliochrome85 wrote:
How ironic...Actually, it wasnt the people's ignorance, as so much the latent anti-semitism the sprung up in europe, particularly austria/germany following the first world war. He was brought to power because the people wanted to point to the jews as the source of their problems. How ironic that today, practically the same thing is ATTEMPTED in order to bring down Obama. It speaks to a latent racism in this country. It is not a crime to be black, nor is it a crime to be arab. Nor should it be. Thanks for furthering that agenda.

Marinate on that.

/Arab//Obama supporter///

Modified by heliochrome85 at 2:38 PM 10/17/2008
Racism is ignorance. And in no way did I say anything negative about being arab, black, white, or anything. I was merely saying he should stop playing the black card and play the arab card if he (or his supporters) wants to make this about race.

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Racism is ignorance. And in no way did I say anything negative about being arab, black, white, or anything. I was merely saying he should stop playing the black card and play the arab card if he (or his supporters) wants to make this about race.
I dont understand how you dont see that HE ISNT ARAB. Sorry kid, he just isnt. There is only one country in Africa that is considered Arab and that is Egypt. You know why? Because arabs from the Islamic empire moved there and took control of it in the 8th century. It speaks arabic, with the same culture and history as the rest of the middle east. Kenya isnt arab. Neither Barack nor Obama are names with Arabic origin.

Secondly, maybe you didn't notice, but Arabs arent exactly held in high praise these days. IF there was any actual truth to the claim that he is arab, which there isnt, it would be character assasination to actually run a campaign based on that. to think that the country would accept more fully if he called himself arab, is ridiculous.

ALSO, i dont really think that Obama has made the campaign about race. He wants to be president, but happens to be black. How does that make him unqualified? Even if he was arab, how would that make him unqualified?

BTW, check this out...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/...6.DTL

sounds to me a like a party trying to throw the race card on the table...


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^^Helio raises a good point.

McCain is getting DESTROYED in the polls. If there was any shred of truth to this, don't you think he'd feed it to some 527 groups and have them run an ad about it?

It hasn't been mentioned by anyone other than fringe bloggers because it's FICTIONAL. This Kenneth Lamb guy is trying to make a name for himself.

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heliochrome85 wrote:
Oh, i totally agree. in many if not most cases, abortion is the easy way out for teens/adults who are mature enough to play the game, but not enough to pay the price. My issue is that even in cases of rape? Incest? Danger to life of mother?

Im sorry, there must be exceptions. We live in the United States of America. How could we with any conscious allow for women to return to coathangers and soap? I want it to be safe, legal, and LIMITED.
Ok... now that I can agree with.

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I'm more Arab than Obama is.

But I'll bet you'd never guess it by looking at me.

Which, incidentally, is a dumb thing to do in the first place.

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lasoyafan wrote:Barack Obama is not even legally a black American. He only has one black great-great-grandmother on his father's side while the other 7 were Arab.

That makes him 50% white, 43.75% Arab, and 6.25% black. 12.5% is the minimum required to legally claim any racial status in America.

Obama would quallify as the first Arab-American president, NOT the first black president. That is why they keep saying "African-American" and NOT black because they know he is African Arab and not African black.
Take a look at your criteria again. According to your logic, he's White.

Obama is not Arab. His mother was White and his father was African. To label Black or White is just incorrect. He is biracial...


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