"Hardware"

[PalmerWMD]

Today, the voices told me to stay at home and clean my guns...

Fred....:eyecrazy

[Repo Man]

You are outta control, Freddo. Are there any ranges down your way we could go shoot?

[Julio Bro!]

Concealed carry license is very hard to acquire in Puerto Rico, a practice shooting license is much easier, although kind expensive. Recently a new firearms law was passed that sky rocketed the money quantities for everything regarding guns. Clubs aren't cheap either.

Thank God I got in since 1993, having the gun already makes for less paying.

OK, I have a .44 magnum Desert Eagle, 2 tone with stainless steel frame (black top, gray bottom), Hogue combat grips and magna-ported barrel. Obviously this can't be used for carrying, but it's a lot of fun for shooting.

[PalmerWMD]

You are outta control, Freddo. Are there any ranges down your way we could go shoot?

There is Knobb Creek Range about 20 minutes from here,many gun stores on the way, one of which is named "Biff's Gun World".I love that name...:oface.

Fred...

[DAEDALUS]

Yes. It may take 500 rounds to break your rifle in. A well-made weapon will often have tight tolerances which can affect the cycling. The springs are new as well. All of these things among others will affect the reliability of the weapon. When you break it in, you give the bolt a chance to seat in the breech, put the springs through their range of motion and wear the other contact surfaces so that they mate up. Kind of like wearing a new set of brake pads in on the discs.

If your rifle is a Springfield, you have a good weapon. Wanna sell it?

Thanks for the info, Repo. 500 rounds would make for a few fun trips to the range. Too bad I can no longer get cheap ammo locally. There's a law now against gun shows on city property, or something like that in L.A. Ammo could be found pretty cheap at the shows.I'm pretty sure the rifle's a Springfield...I can't even think of any other brand that I looked at besides Colt, and I know it's not that. I seem to recall seeing the S.A. logo on the stock. I'll probably keep the rifle for as long as I can legally own it in CA, but who knows how long that will be I will have to dig it out of the closet and start looking for some accessories to dress it up with.

[MaineExport]

Maine, you need to trade in that Jennings and get a higher grade 9mm. How do you like your brother's Ruger?

The Jennings is okay.... but it's total garbage compared to the P89. It was purchased because I needed a cheap handgun around the house. It is VERY relieable with fully jacketed rounds... hollow points tend to jam. But it is really heavy and it shoots like pile of bricks.... the balane is good, but there is so much recoil that your second shot won't be anywhere near the first. When I get some cash might by the P89 off my brother, he doesn't like it so much since he got into the S+W auto. I believe he also has a S+W .357... I'll have to get a current list from him. He and his USAF pilot buddies like to collect and swap guns alot.

I'm more of a sporting gun type of guy. I love to hunt, so most of my weapons are purpose built, no frills, bare-bones and used hard.

[MaineExport]

I currently own a romanian AKM (which is NOT an AK47, why does everybody think that, nobody has made or issued AK-47's in decades, almost all those guns people call AK-47's are really AKM's or even AK-74'sI

Actually, most of the "AK-47's" in this country are the Chinese made SKS. It is the same gun, but with considerably less build qaulity.

[PalmerWMD]

Actually, most of the "AK-47's" in this country are the Chinese made SKS. It is the same gun, but with considerably less build qaulity.

Maine the SKS is a different gun, a carbine, not an "assault rifle".It just happens to be chambered for the same 7.62mmx39mm ComBloc round as the original AK47's.

Very few AK-47's ever made it into this country, the vast majprity of guns sold as and referred to by the media as "AK-47's" are actually AKM's.They are also chambered for 7.62x39 and appear visually identical to the layman.However they have significant differences.The receiver is stamped not machined, and they have an effective muzzle brake in the milspec versions also above the magazine well they have just a small dimple instead of a large rectangualr indentation that extends beyond the borders of teh magazine well.AKM's were produced in the SU and Combloc from the early 60's to the late 70's, the only exceptions being No Korea which produced them up until 1980 or tehreabouts.starting from teh early mid 70 production in ComBloc sountires switched to teh AK74 and its variants.The differnces between the AK74'sand the AKM are an even more effective muzzle brake, simplifed recibvers, improved handguards improved sights and the provison of rails for the attachment of night vision devices.And of course most important they are chambered for the new 5.45x39 mm round.

Nowadays one can buy AK74 pattern weapons chambered in 5.45,5.56 (both US patterns), 7.62 ComBloc and even 7.62x51 NATO (big round for this weapon, changing the charcter of the weapon, from a Assault Rifle into a Battle rifle), yet all those weapons are still AK74 sereies guns,Some former combloc countries still produce AK series weapons usually they are AKM's (Romania for example, calling them SAR-1's, 2's,3',s depedning on calibre) or AK74 (Bulgaria).

The latest expression of this series are the "century series" AK's, produced by Ishmash in the Udmurt republic (the former location of Soviet State Arsenals) AK 100,101,102,103,104 which are differnt calibers and barrel lenghts.So one can buy a new built current generation AK in the original AK round ,a la AK47, in an AK74 series gun...:eyecrazy.

Fred...

[MaineExport]

Maine the SKS is a different gun, a carbine, not an "assault rifle".It just happens to be chambered for the same 7.62mmx39mm ComBloc round as the original AK47's.

I did not know that. The 2 SKSs that I've seen and used were identical in looks to all of the pictures of the AK-47 that I've seen. They also, as you said, use the same ammo. I was informed that it was the exact same gun by several different sources. I guess I stand corrected.

[PalmerWMD]

If they looked like an AK, they were an AK series gun.Whoever called them SKS mislabelled them.

The SKS actually looks very different from the AK series guns.(vaguely similiar to an M1 carbine).The stamp on an SKS receiver will read "CKC", which is cyrrillic for SKS.

Fred...

[MaineExport]

Well, this is identical from the viewpoint of a "somewhat' layman!

I will ask the big bro exactly what the deal is. He owns one of the two that I referred to. The other was owned by an extreme gun fanatic friend of mine back in Vermont. I am convinced that they know wht they are taling about, but you obviously know your s*** as well. I'd like to find out where the confusion lies.

Both of you being military officers, it's hard for an ignorant civi like myself to figure out what's going on!:D

[PalmerWMD]

SKS:http://www.frii.com/~gosplow/sks.html

[PalmerWMD]

AKM (w/o the chracteristic muzzle brake but still AKM not AK47):http://www.sovietarmy.com/small_arms/akm.html

Fred...

[MaineExport]

Quote »"In the 1950's, Soviet technical advisors helped the Chinese government to establish several factories to produce the SKS carbine. The first Chinese SKS carbines were identical to their Soviet counterparts, and were adopted by the Peoples Republic of China as the Type 56 carbine. Subsequently, the Chinese have manufactured several varieties of the original SKS, including selective-fire models, short-barreled "paratrooper" models, and models which use the detachable magazine of the later AK-47 assault rifle"[/quote]I see, this would be the confusion.

[MaineExport]

Take that SKS carbine, and add a collapsible stock and pistol grip, and it starts to look more like the AK series. I see the difference you referred to. They do share many similarities though, not the least of which would be their inventor, Simonov.

[Domeskilla]

I'm new here.. but.. I have a H&K .40 .. My cousin bought it for me, but said something like its a H&K SpecOp .40.. <shrugs>