Gun owners, Obama is actively trying to ban guns now

[bobotech]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics...age=1

The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.

"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border.

Stupid f***ing moron.

Well boys, time to start to stock up.

[bobotech]

"there are just a few gun-related changes"

The AWB is probably the BIGGEST f***ing change that they could drop on the gun owners of America.

Ugh.

And just when the panic buying was starting to subside.

[Cold_Zero]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics...age=1Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border.

Bahahahaahwwaahhhahaaaaa

So Mexican drug cartels come across the border to the United States, buy AR-15s and AK-47s and ship them over the boarder to Mexico? I thought it was the reverse? Drugs, Illegals and Guns came from Mexico across the border INTO the United States. This is a very weak argument and I would love to see them produce numbers on this claim.

With the amount of arms we have seen seized in the United States and Mexico, I find it hard to believe that straw purchases here in the US is providing the Drug Cartels with their arms. It would be as ridiculous in saying that the Shining Path or the Taliban are getting their arms from straw purchases in the United States.

I honestly think that the Administration thinks we are a bunch of idiots. And maybe we are if we believe this load of crap.

[Jacko3]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics...age=1

The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.

"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border.

Stupid f***ing moron.

Well boys, time to start to stock up.

Guns hurt our children, and innocent lives. Obama is working towards protecting our kids from the savagery of guns.

[bobotech]

Guns hurt our children, and innocent lives. Obama is working towards protecting our kids from the savagery of guns.

Edit: Jacko, I really hope you are just being sarcastic with that remark and that you don't truely believe crap like that. If you are just being sarcastic then I apologize about my following remarks:

OMG what a bunch of f***ing stupid insipid crap you spew. I have a good amount of guns and none of them have ever hurt any kids and will never hurt any kids or innocent lives.

Geez. What a marooon.


Modified by bobotech at 12:32 PM 2/26/2009

[Logan76]

Guns hurt our children, and innocent lives. Obama is working towards protecting our kids from the savagery of guns.

Get the f*** out, no one likes you. leave.

[Cold_Zero]

I ok guys. Stop the name calling. While you might not like what Jacko3 says, you would be better served to know that he is just trying to stir the pot.

[Logan76]

I know he is, I just think that sportsmen/enthusiast's get a bad rap and the short end of the stick because of gang bangers and thugs out there commiting crimes. I can't have the weapon of my choice to go to the range and shoot because some guy robbed a bank with it? Thats no fault of mine.

[BusyBadger]

Quote »"I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.[/quote]If Holder wants to have a positive impact in Mexico maybe he should be in office down there instead of here. So much for P-BO's "friend of the gun owner" charade...errrr, lie.

I dealt with his crap when I lived in Chicago...here's more of his crap.

P-BO is really starting to piss me off...there are far more important matters to tend to right now. For starters he should tell Pelosi to stay in her damn seat.

[OriginalWheelman]

I want to see a ban on automatic cars. They allow more people to operate them easier making it easier to run someone over. Automatic Cars are dangerous and need to be banned.

[Jacko3]

I ok guys. Stop the name calling. While you might not like what Jacko3 says, you would be better served to know that he is just trying to stir the pot.

Dear Cold_zero:

Thank you.

[Jacko3]

Edit: Jacko, I really hope you are just being sarcastic with that remark and that you don't truely believe crap like that. If you are just being sarcastic then I apologize about my following remarks:

OMG what a bunch of f***ing stupid insipid crap you spew. I have a good amount of guns and none of them have ever hurt any kids and will never hurt any kids or innocent lives.

Geez. What a marooon.

Modified by bobotech at 12:32 PM 2/26/2009

But guns do kill. It can kill an adult, a child, or a pet.

[OriginalWheelman]

But guns do kill. It can kill an adult, a child, or a pet.

No it can't. When a gun can point itself, and pull it's own trigger, I'll buy that.

[Jacko3]

No it can't. When a gun can point itself, and pull it's own trigger, I'll buy that.

Uummhhh! Ever heard of a possessed gun or a flying broomstick? Seems like they have a mind of their own.

[dusred]

Jacko, more people are killed in alcohol related car wrecks. . . why don't we ban alcohol and cars? In fact. . . why don't we just ban people then all our problems would be solved

[OriginalWheelman]

Uummhhh! Ever heard of a possessed gun or a flying broomstick? Seems like they have a mind of their own.

Outside of FICTION, no.

[szh]

Jacko, more people are killed in alcohol related car wrecks. . . why don't we ban alcohol and cars? In fact. . . why don't we just ban people then all our problems would be solved

Yup!

Plus, there is also a 100% statistical correlation between breathing air and dying ... just takes a bit longer for some people. In fact, every person who has died throughout history has breathed air too!

Maybe we ought to ban breathing.

Z

[Cold_Zero]

I want to see a ban on automatic cars. They allow more people to operate them easier making it easier to run someone over. Automatic Cars are dangerous and need to be banned.

Correction,Automatic cars with their ease in use allow drivers to become distracted with activities other than driving and result in accidents and fatalities. Therefore automatic cars are dangerous and need to be banned.

[OriginalWheelman]

That too. I hard that in most accidents, people are braking at impact. Perhaps if we banned brakes from cars there would be less accidents, since no one would be braking and therefore they would be less likely to crash.

[Jacko3]

Jacko, more people are killed in alcohol related car wrecks. . . why don't we ban alcohol and cars? In fact. . . why don't we just ban people then all our problems would be solved

I agree completely! I was hoping someone would say so. Well said! Any and all materials in our environment are potential weapons. Beleive or not, a grain of sand flying at high speeds can be deadly. So, should the government ban sand as well?? No, not at all. That was why i was acting silly, with the hope that some would present the excellent logic you just illustrated.

[Jacko3]

Yup!

Plus, there is also a 100% statistical correlation between breathing air and dying ... just takes a bit longer for some people. In fact, every person who has died throughout history has breathed air too!

Maybe we ought to ban breathing.

Z

Excellently said! No other logic could be more true. Yes, so long as we are not referring to a foetus, "every person who has died throughout history has breathed air too!" This is a fact.

[C-Kwik]

Gotta ask guys. If their guns aren't coming from the US, then where are they coming from? Did a quick seach and its just countless articles stating that most of their guns are coming from the US. Do we have hard credible numbers or is this merely speculation?

[Jacko3]

DC is gonna be a war zone now. Yeeeehaaah!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/w...N.htm

[Bubs daddy]

As has been pointed out, irresponsible driving kills far more people every year. When is the Automobile Ban taking effect?

[480sx]

DC is already a war zone. Now, good people can arm themselves legally and defend themselves, their homes and properties from the likes of the criminal underworld. This in the end will balance things out to a certain degree in DC, causing the violence to spike, and then drop down to 'acceptable' standards.

Also jacko, guns never kill anyone. PEOPLE kill people.

[Jacko3]

Also jacko, guns never kill anyone. PEOPLE kill people.

This is true.

[bobotech]

Gotta ask guys. If their guns aren't coming from the US, then where are they coming from? Did a quick seach and its just countless articles stating that most of their guns are coming from the US. Do we have hard credible numbers or is this merely speculation?

I don't really care where they are coming from. The Mexicants and Americans need to strongly enforce the borders to prevent guns from being exported over.

I would like to know where the Mexicans are getting all these illegal full auto weapons. Last time I checked, it was extremely difficult to get your hands on a full auto rifle and converting one to full auto is also pretty difficult.

My solution is to stop spending all this crazy money on crap like GM and Chrysler and the banks and instead spend it on the borders. Maybe then we can stem the flow of guns into Mexico.

Why should I and all the other millions of legal gun owners have to suffer for the sins of a few who send guns into Mexico?

And honestly, I really don't give a crap if a bunch of Mexicans have guns in their country. It doesn't affect me so the caretrain left the station on that issue.

[Cold_Zero]

Gotta ask guys. If their guns aren't coming from the US, then where are they coming from? Did a quick seach and its just countless articles stating that most of their guns are coming from the US. Do we have hard credible numbers or is this merely speculation?

C-Can so share your sources? I was approaching this issue from the stand point of the sheer masses of firearms and weapons being seized in Mexico from the Drug Cartels. The amount and type of weapons (notice I didn’t say assault weapons or firearms) would imply that tens of thousands of people in America are buying firearms in the United States and shipping them across the border to Mexico. This (the shipment of arms to Mexico) would set off warning flags with ICE and the Border Patrol. Last time I checked, it was not legal to purchase firearms (straw purchase) and ship them to Mexico.So, where are they coming from? How about this, lets try arms dealers and dare I say, other Latin American countries? With the amount of money that these Drug Cartels and Narco Guerillas have and the wide spread corruption in Latin America, do you honestly think they (Cartels) would waste their time trying to line up buyers in the US to purchase and ship a few arms at a time? Let’s expand it out, would you think they would line up buyers to buy hundreds or thousands of arms in the US and ship them to Mexico? Hell no, the BATF would pick up on that and crack down. So, with the BATF, ICE and Border Patrol all silent on this issue, can’t help but to lead someone down the path that arms dealers are providing arms to the Mexican Drug Cartels. Latin America is rife with black market arms dealers, we know this by studying the arms that are procured by groups like the Shining Path, FARC and ELN, to name a few.

s***, if I were the Attorney General of the United States I would blame the correct Military, Political and Police officials in Mexico before I blamed American Citizens. Bud

[Cold_Zero]

I would like to know where the Mexicans are getting all these illegal full auto weapons. Last time I checked, it was extremely difficult to get your hands on a full auto rifle and converting one to full auto is also pretty difficult.

You picked up on that too, eh?. They blame the US for shipping 'Assault Weapons' to Mexico, thus arming the Narco-Guerilla insurgency in Mexico. Yet assault weapons that are manufactured and sold in the US can on go up to semi automatic, with their rate of fire.

So when the article said, "Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades," I pretty much knew this claim was a bunch of s***. The Mexican Army and Police have a bigger problem than the assault weapons that are manufactured and sold in the US.

This is just a tired old tactic that Democrat Administrations in Major Metropolitan Areas engage in. They blame everyone else for their crime problem, instead of cracking down and fighting crime. Chicago blames Indiana for shipping guns across the border, New York City blames Connecticut and Washington DC blames Virginia. Its great to see that now the Obama Administration (through AG Holder) is now engaging in this at an International level. It is bad enough that the Mexican's DO NOT respect our Sovereign Borders and Laws, now they have to blame use for arming their Narco Guerillas? I have one thing to say to Felipe Calderón, secure your own s*** before worrying about ours.

Oh and BTW, it is also illegal to sell/purchase hand grenades, but I am sure they will touch on that when they craft the Assault Weapons Ban legislation. I am sure that is our fault too.

[Cold_Zero]

DC is gonna be a war zone now. Yeeeehaaah!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/w...N.htm

They said the same thing after SCOTUS ruling of DC vs. Heller. That blood would be running in the streets of DC and that it would be the wild wild west.