GTR vs ZR1

[08Coupe]

http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...gtr.0.*

[silviazz14]

wow...they are fast!!!!thanks

[Leegamer]

I'd take the ZR-1 any day.

[sampsonJ]

im sorry are they comparing a 120k car with a 80k car and then saying the GTR has room for improvement?

Seriously? with 99 more WHP all they can do is beat the GTR by .2 sec in the 1/4 and 2 in the lap?

Really? This is the argument they are making?

[themadscientist]

the whole argument is childish and I pay it no mind. Instead of trying so hard to impress each other maybe car makers need to get back to trying to impress the customers. The vette is nice but I ain't paying that much, the R has the numbers but looks *** and has no soul.

[bestint]

GTR is very impressive. so much potential too.

[Ghost_silvia]

Not to mention zr1 has 2 more cylinders. But they are marketing at muscle heads, trying to prove domestic is better. 40k in mods to the gtr would rape the zr1. Maybe in a couple years the gtr will be affordable for us common folk.

[Gold Digger]

Not to mention zr1 has 2 more cylinders. But they are marketing at muscle heads, trying to prove domestic is better. 40k in mods to the gtr would rape the zr1. Maybe in a couple years the gtr will be affordable for us common folk.

While it is noted that the ZR1 does boast a $40k higher price tag than the GT-R, remember that to be fair, you have to compare two completely stock vehicles.

Immagine what $40k in mods in a ZR1 would do for you.

Yes, the Vette has two more cylinders and like what, 3 more litres. It's supercharged as well.

Now, take the GT-R with it's 3.8L twin turbo V6. If you compare them, realistically, there isn't much power difference in HP per cubic inch. Hell, I'm just guessing here as I don't have hard data in front of me, but the GT-R wins in that department.

If the GT-R were to have gotten the V8 that was planned back in 2001 with the GT-R Concept Coupe, things may have been more even keel.

I like the new ZR1 (sans that hood thingy) and can credit it with being a car that you actually have to "drive", unlike Nissan's Playstation 4 counsel.

(For the record, I do like the performance and styling of the GT-R, I just don't like that it's so computerized and monitored so much by "Big Brother" Nissan.)

[TwinCityTech]

$105k vette v.s $76k GTR (base prices keep in mind) = NUFF said.Were comparing rotten apples to ones that have just fallen off the tree.Personally I love the competition, as time goes on things will probably just get more expensive, faster, and more technological to say the LEAST! We'll just see how this v-spec version of the GTR stacks up to the ZR1 when it comes out . . . but then would not we be just comparing different apples again??

[Chung35]

Ok check this, the ZR1 is about 120,000. The GTR is around 80,000.

It lost by .2 in the quarter mile.

The ZR1 is 40,000$ more, if you put that into the skyline i wonder wich would win? ....

You tell me..

GTR al the damn way.. Too much technology to lose.

[Gold Digger]

Ok check this, the ZR1 is about 120,000. The GTR is around 80,000.

It lost by .2 in the quarter mile.

The ZR1 is 40,000$ more, if you put that into the skyline i wonder wich would win? ....

You tell me..

GTR al the damn way.. Too much technology to lose.

Now you're comparing a bone stock (stock as in from the factory) ZR1 to a $40k modified GT-R. Not a fair comparrison and no longer legitimate. Cars should always be compared in the condition they roll off the assembly line.

I like the Playstation 4...err...I mean the GT-R, well I respect what it's capable of. There is no denying that it is an incredible car, but the more I think outside the box, I see it's just a big gadget with bells and whistles. It's no longer a car to me, it's more of a video game on wheels.

I own an R33 GT-R, and do so becuase I fell in love with that body style the first time I saw it, nearly 10 years ago. I have come to appreciate the technology that was involved with it's reintroduction in the 90's (the GT-R, not the R33) becuase it was so far ahead of it's time.

Now, the car has evolved so far beyond everyone else that it just seems to over-the-top to be a "drivers car".

You have no learning curve with this car. You just get in, turn it on and mash the accelerator pedal, and computers do the rest. What fun is there to be had with that?

Crest the apex of a corner in a normal car and apply to much gas, what happens, the rear slides out and you have to learn to control it and get your butt out of the sling you just put it in. The R35, you just keep it to the floor and the computer controls how much gas the engine gets, the AWD and Traction Control limit just how fast you are going to exit.

Geeze, I am turning into a TMS!

QUICK, someone get me to REHAB!! STAT!!!!!

Sorry for threadjack

[SullivanRacing06]

all said n done id say a fair race would be between a gtr v-spec and the zr1

[SullivanRacing06]

haha and btw id say the guys who wrote this were very bias to teh vete, ohh wow it can do a burn out at 75, **** my s13 would smoke th ehell out of this 120k car lol,

hey guy who spent 120k on a vette

[the converted]

GTR al the damn way.. Too much technology to lose.

Untill the transmission breaks

[SullivanRacing06]

lol, yea then you bring it back to nissan and well install another under warranty

[the converted]

I guess you missed the thread about the transmission warranty.

[SullivanRacing06]

hmm i guess so

[tyndago]

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I own an R33 GT-R, and do so becuase

You have no learning curve with this car. You just get in, turn it on and mash the accelerator pedal, and computers do the rest. What fun is there to be had with that?

Have you driven an R35 ? I have a little bit of time in R32, R33, R34, and R35's. The R35 is an incredible car. Intense acceleration. Incredible handling. Lighting fast shifts. Trust me, you are involved. Everything comes at you very fast.

In 1989, 1995,1999 journalists said the ATTESA system in the GT-R's was disconnecting also. They compared it to a lot of things. Ahead of the curve is what you could say, and it is.

[tyndago]

I guess you missed the thread about the transmission warranty.

Just a few broken transmissions overall. Just some loudmouths that did 20-40 launches in a row. Abuse any car,and its going to break.

[TomeiS13Redtop]

i dont understand why everyone is comparing the gtr to the ZR1 anyways the ZR1 is not a base model vette. i agree more with the V Spec GTR vs. the ZR1 untill then i want a base vette vs. base GTR. . you love it!!

[BLKTOPS14SR]

Corvette has two seats. GTR has four. Apples and oranges. Its amazing how much the industry loves to bash Nissan. ZR1 is just a factory hopped up Vette. I'm not impressed. Any shop or tuner can add a S/C or Turbo set-up and light-weight parts for less. Using a base Vette or Z06. Has anyone seen Chevy comparing the ZR1 to a Ferrari or Lambo? Something alone those lines. The GTR's competition should be the M3, Carrera Turbo, Shelby GT500KR, SRT8 Challenger. They're all simuliar in style and function.

Just read a article on motortrend. LOL They compared the ZR1 to a GT2 (has a cage in it from the factory) a over weight Ferrari 599 GTB and GTR. The GTR and Ferrari are simuliar. Both front engine and four seaters. The GT2 is pretty much a factory racecar.

Look at the roof lines as well as the size difference. And the Vette still didn't beat it by much. LOL

[TomeiS13Redtop]

all i have to say is GM is asking for a bailout and sayed they would go under before 2009. did nissan ask for a bailout from japans government? NO FTW!!!! o yeah.

[BLKTOPS14SR]

No because Renault bailed them out. Thats why the current Sentra, out-going Maxima and Quest look like Renault's. Carlos Ghosn was CEO of Renault and helped bring them around and has done the same with Nissan. While many don't like his decision to axe the Silvia, 180SX and Skyline after 04' he has brought the company from near death.

But, yeah. GM should be more worried about staying in business then building a car most American's can't afford.

[MUNNNJEE]

can you say ...ppl are just upset that their paying over 100,00+ and they cant get any decent performance out of their car in comparison to GTR

soon they'll start comparing the GTR to this - - ->

[SullivanRacing06]

ok so lets say a base vette vs the base gtr, or the base gtr with the diff in cost to the zr1 in mods vs the zr1 that would be fair, not by picking the most expensive model from the maker, the do a v spec vs the zr1, either way the gtr is so sexy so sleek oh and has 4 seats!

sorry its not fair on nissans side to compare the zr1 against the gtr due to price, if you argue w me then race the same price vette against the same price or modded to be same price zr1 thatll be a race

[BLKTOPS14SR]

If you must compare, compare the GTR vs. Z06. Really in my eyes if you compare a Base Vette you'd compare it to a Skyline or in this case G37.

[TomeiS13Redtop]

gtr is much more advanced than the zr1 period just has alittle less horsepower. american car companys have always had the "if it aint broke dont fix it" attitude and i hate that. i hope all GM, Chrysler, and ford go under and Nissan, Toyota, and Honda buy them out. ether that or they start making some good cars.

[TomeiS13Redtop]

ok so lets say a base vette vs the base gtr, or the base gtr with the diff in cost to the zr1 in mods vs the zr1 that would be fair, not by picking the most expensive model from the maker, the do a v spec vs the zr1, either way the gtr is so sexy so sleek oh and has 4 seats!

sorry its not fair on nissans side to compare the zr1 against the gtr due to price, if you argue w me then race the same price vette against the same price or modded to be same price zr1 thatll be a race

^my point exactly. All who agree say I.

[nitecruiser]

I will take GTR all day long.

[dprice772]

what a dumb comparison.