GTR owners read this about your transmission

[brizanden]

arroynous. (or howev u spell that)

[DevonD]

[QUOTE=brizanden]does a corvette transmission fail when u launch it 10 times? not to my knowlege. Look i said i like the car you just need to admit that maybe the transmission is not as strong as it should or could be. Nissan built this car while it was going under. I think for thier price tag on such a redic number producing car they had to cut corners somewhere. they chose to do this on the transmission. If it was perfect why would they follow up saying they are making a v-spec with a beefier transmission? huh why would they do such a thing the normal one works perfect right edit: and just cause im this big of an *******[QUOTE]

While Nissan was going under? That was back in 99/2000. Didnt you hear about Nissan almost buying GM a year or so ago because GM was so so close to declaring bankruptcy? I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the big three go down in the next year or two.
Modified by DevonD at 11:10 PM 10/29/2008

[brizanden]

^idk if u know this but companies start designing a car like 5 if not more years ahead of time. Also there has been talk of a merger with chrysler and gm. and that is not gonna end well if it happens.

[raremotive]

does a corvette transmission fail when u launch it 10 times? not to my knowlege. Look i said i like the car you just need to admit that maybe the transmission is not as strong as it should or could be. Nissan built this car while it was going under. I think for thier price tag on such a redic number producing car they had to cut corners somewhere. they chose to do this on the transmission. If it was perfect why would they follow up saying they are making a v-spec with a beefier transmission? huh why would they do such a thing the normal one works perfect right edit: and just cause im this big of an *******Modified by brizanden at 12:33 AM 10/29/2008

Corvette doesn't have a rear axle transmission, differential, and transfer case... that shifts .02 seconds.

Again. The GTR is NOT designed to be launched. PERIOD.

It's designed for circuit racing. When you design something you have to focus on minimizing areas that will not receive that much stress and try to maximize the areas that do get stress, in this case circuit racing. That's engineering to a specific purpose. As soon as you start launching it, you are taking the car and it's design out it's intended purpose.

In circuit racing it's not hard to keep a mass moving really fast. So you have only the stresses of a moving mass to be accelerated and decelerated constantly. So you are dealing with some of the car's inertial forces acting on the drive train and engine, but never completely.

But by launching, which put's a tremendous amount of stress on all drive train and power train. Basically you are taking a mass from rest, and accelerating it at a high rate. With car's complete inertia force acting on the drive train and engine.

Get the picture?

Imagine the stresses the drive shaft alone has to go through with all that inertia resisting the forces of the engine. The drive shaft will to undergo a distortion until the car is finally moving(when the inertia forces reduces)...that's because everything is made of ATOMS and their molecular bonds.

As soon you introduce stresses those bonds stretch or compress, this is known as elastic deformation.. as soon the stresses go away the atoms go back to their original position. However if the bonds break... it's called plastic deformation, after stress removed the part is now permanently disfiguremed, just like hammering on copper, each dent is a plastic deformation. Too much plastic deformation will lead to COMPLETE part failure. (These varies between ductile material and brittle materials)

This is the basis of stress analysis.

Now introduce these huge stresses where it has been minimized. Which includes minimized dimensions and materials that has been tested to pass at a minimum.(each material has a different molecular bond structure/strength)

So duh. Your going to break it.

So there is NOTHING to admit.

It's not an all out drag car. SORRY.

Just like Devon D said about BMW and Porsche or even the Veyron. These are are designed to go fast, their aerodynamics are designed at those high speeds. Not at standstill, where the aerodynamics are completely useless during launch.. duh...

Sorry this GTR cannot match the previous ones in bullet-proofness.
Modified by Rare_f8 at 1:18 AM 10/29/2008

[raremotive]

If it was perfect why would they follow up saying they are making a v-spec with a beefier transmission? huh why would they do such a thing the normal one works perfect right.

Because it's not perfect. Name another nissan vehicle that uses a rear differential trans axle. ... still waiting... right... the GTR is the only one. This is the first time Nissan has mass produced and release this kind of equipment. So theres flaws in the system.

Name a single company in the world. That doesn't have flaws in their products?

In 2003 Nissan came out with the 350z. Flaw. The sychros were weak and trannies were breaking. Later 2004 they release a new improved if I may say beefed up version.

Beefed up.. what does this mean? Nissan spent the time to see what to specific failures and adjusted or redesigned it to meet the greater stress or flaw in the system.

Will this new beefed up GTR transmission unit survive repeated launching at standstill.

Answer is simple.

No.

Sorry.
Modified by Rare_f8 at 1:02 AM 10/29/2008

[brizanden]

i dont get why im arguing then. people refuse to believe the transmission is weak. you just said sure it is cause its new. So.... why are the fan bois attacking me then?

[raremotive]

i dont get why im arguing then. people refuse to believe the transmission is weak. you just said sure it is cause its new. So.... why are the fan bois attacking me then?

The car isn't a all purpose car. It's a GT racing car. AKA Circuit racing.

Nissan repeatedly made that point.

I have repeatedly tried to make that point.

The transmission does what it was built for and it's strong in that aspect.

Yes it is weak for standstill launching. And I already told you why.

I am no fan boy. I hate the new GTR. However, I respect and the understand the engineering gone into it.
Modified by Rare_f8 at 6:44 PM 10/29/2008

[brizanden]

Ok thats fine its a circut car i agree, but why would they show those 0-60 times which you would need the vdc off to achieve? idk im just gonna stop cause i get what your saying and im not calling you a fan boi cause you have presented a clear point. Not just its not weak and people suck at driving there amazing gt-rs.

[raremotive]

All or most cars have posted 0-60s... it's a popular test among the worlds population and it wouldn't be wise in marketing stand point not to post that kind of timing. And then you have those people who do standstill launches to get those times anyways.

[brizanden]

i know why they did it, but doesnt seem they should post the times with the vdc off it that voids the warrenty. Cause if i wanted to get the car based soley on those 0-60 times (illogical i know) i would be disapointed to find out my car can do it, but technically im screwed if i do do that. Lol idk im just dropping it now.

[raremotive]

i know why they did it, but doesnt seem they should post the times with the vdc off it that voids the warrenty. Cause if i wanted to get the car based soley on those 0-60 times (illogical i know) i would be disapointed to find out my car can do it, but technically im screwed if i do do that. Lol idk im just dropping it now.

Yeah I see what you mean there. They should test it how they market it. I will give you that point.

However. Using it doesn't void your warranty. Using it too much does. So you can still launch with Variable Differential Control off. But you only have very limited amount of that kind of abuse during time frame.

[implicits14]

Yeah I see what you mean there. They should test it how they market it. I will give you that point.

However. Using it doesn't void your warranty. Using it too much does. So you can still launch with Variable Differential Control off. But you only have very limited amount of that kind of abuse during time frame.

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