Great fuel management for less: Greddy E-manage

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I peiced together a bitchin' setup for cheap, and its easy for anyone to do.

Greddy E-manage Blue box: $295Greddy Support Tool: $120Greddy N-9 harness: $100Old IBM 333MHz 9-pound laptop: $free (hey it has a huge high-res screen!)

Boom! bolt-in stand-alone-like fuel management for about 500 bucks, plus you get to be cool and use a labtop like paul walker. Danger to intake manifold!!!!1!!!1!11

The software only needs 166MHz and old free labtops can be found from the office or school, and chances are you know someone with a crappy laptop sitting around who wants to get rid of it.

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So you're saying you spent $515 on something you could have gotten from SPL for $429 shipped?


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The ignition harness in your kit is about $40 new, the harness I got is about $165 new from a store, got it on ebay new for $100. Real rare to see these harnesses in the states, even in specialty stores. Your package deal is better than the one offered at the place i got my box though, for which I deserve a swift kick in the pants.

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The monster (largest laptop ever made by IBM):

E-manage box and N-9 harness (so pretty, so easy):

Comp fired up with nice high res screen (this was top of the line many moons ago):

E-manage support tool up and running. Real time display left and 16x16 fuel adjustment map right.

The whole shebang:

You would litterally have to have no arms and/or no brain to not be able to install this. The only semi-preschool-hard thing was to set the rotory switches behind the sideplate on the box.

The software has a bunch of pretty graphs and stuff too i didnt bother taking pictures of. I havent tuned anything yet either, mostly because everything is stock and I dont have a wideband O2 yet.

I have to thank Cyberkreig for persuading me to get this over the powerFC and commander.

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:for which I deserve a swift kick in the pants.
you'll get a swift kick in the pants for making me consider spending more money

i was looking at the AEM system when i saw this thread pop up. How I wish I had money...

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You could do it for about $100 cheaper with alan's splparts kit if you do the wiring yourself

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I can't do wiring though [/sarcasm]

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I was looking at SPL's site, and the e-manage was stated as only being able to handle an increase in injector size of +50%. That factors up to 510-ishcc.

Also, can it handle switching to a Z32 MAF? or gimping the MAF in favor of a MAP?

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tenkawa_akito wrote:I was looking at SPL's site, and the e-manage was stated as only being able to handle an increase in injector size of +50%. That factors up to 510-ishcc.

Also, can it handle switching to a Z32 MAF? or gimping the MAF in favor of a MAP?


370 / 2 = 185

370 + 185 = 555cc



Bart is teh win at Math!

It can support a Z32 MAF.

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:Comp fired up with nice high res screen (this was top of the line many moons ago):
Can you mail me pictures of that SR in the background? It almost looks like an old FJ lol.

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If you add the price of the wideband, you're way over what I paid to have mine dyno tuned for.

I paid $560 to have my car custom tuned on a dyno by Enthalpy, fuel maps, boost maps, 740cc injectors, Z32 MAFS, Gt28RS. I also trust his tuning alot more than I'd trust my own since he has a ton of experience with tuning SRs for max power while remaining on the safe side.

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BaliLover, did you ever post up your dynos? What were your numbers?

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:I peiced together a bitchin' setup for cheap, and its easy for anyone to do.

Greddy E-manage Blue box: $295Greddy Support Tool: $120Greddy N-9 harness: $100Old IBM 333MHz 9-pound laptop: $free (hey it has a huge high-res screen!)

Boom! bolt-in stand-alone-like fuel management for about 500 bucks, plus you get to be cool and use a labtop like paul walker. Danger to intake manifold!!!!1!!!1!11

The software only needs 166MHz and old free labtops can be found from the office or school, and chances are you know someone with a crappy laptop sitting around who wants to get rid of it.

pictures and more detailed review later
That harness allows for ignition tuning too right?

Also, what sensors would I need to buy to monitor the welds on my intake manifold?

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Nismo_Freak wrote:

370 / 2 = 185

370 + 185 = 555cc



Bart is teh win at Math!

It can support a Z32 MAF.
bart is teh win at forgetting that the injectors are 370, not 340

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Dori Dori wrote:That harness allows for ignition tuning too right?

Also, what sensors would I need to buy to monitor the welds on my intake manifold?
i'd be more worried about your floor boards falling out.

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You need to make a powerpoint slide that says DANGER DAMAGER TO INTAKE MANIFOLD!!! That would be great. I'd just make sure your floor board is tightly bolted down. Wouldnt want it to fall out while you're racing an RX-7 and a Civic.

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hey J-Spec, does the E-Manage come with all default SR fuel maps right out of the box?

Does the anti-engine-stall feature for BOV's come activated by default?

Thanks.

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Dori,

Yeah, I have the dyno for it.

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/ent...i.jpg

Thats running 93 octane fuel, 740cc injectors, Z32 MAFS, Gt28RS, 3" turbo back exhaust, and stock everything else. Once I replace the cams and the intake manifold The power curve shouldn't drop off like it currently does. But by that time I hope to have the GT2871R and around 400hp.

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Kinda crappy that you're limited to 550's.

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Check around.

I got.

emanage blue boxsupport tool boost sensorboost harnessignition harnessinjector harness

all for 300 shipped

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WHERE? I'm actually interested, b/c right now, my car runs rich and is just pissing gas.

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yashin wrote:Check around.

I got.

emanage blue boxsupport tool boost sensorboost harnessignition harnessinjector harness

all for 300 shipped
New?

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used... but whatever, it's not like it wears out or anything

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I've been thinking about getting one to fine-tune my car. I've got 740s, z32 maf and a Secret Service tune.


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If you had an ECU programmed to accept larger injectors, but everthing else was stock, could the emanage theoretically handle larger than a 555cc?

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Dori Dori wrote:
That harness allows for ignition tuning too right?

Also, what sensors would I need to buy to monitor the welds on my intake manifold?
The harness is designed specifically for the SR, so any relevent features that it can control, it does, including ignition.

And i'd definatly be more worried about johnny tran than a few busted intake manifold welds.

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chickentendah wrote:hey J-Spec, does the E-Manage come with all default SR fuel maps right out of the box?

Does the anti-engine-stall feature for BOV's come activated by default?

Thanks.
Its still technically "piggy-back" so it just uses whatever the stock ECU is set at as base parameters.

Anti-engine-stall can be set on or off, easy to use too.

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Nismo_Freak wrote:
Can you mail me pictures of that SR in the background? It almost looks like an old FJ lol.

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http://www.todaracing.com/topi....html

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BaliLover wrote:If you add the price of the wideband, you're way over what I paid to have mine dyno tuned for.

I paid $560 to have my car custom tuned on a dyno by Enthalpy, fuel maps, boost maps, 740cc injectors, Z32 MAFS, Gt28RS. I also trust his tuning alot more than I'd trust my own since he has a ton of experience with tuning SRs for max power while remaining on the safe side.
The only problems with that for me are:a) Enthalpy is litteraly 1000 miles away from meandb)I want to learn to dyno tune cars myself, not necessarily have the most bad tune job.

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:b)I want to learn to dyno tune cars myself, not necessarily have the most bad tune job.
Then you should be using a proper tuning tool, not a hack-job piggyback.

The e-manage is essentially a glorified S-AFC.

~matt

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EMS is 2G+ though :[ For 2G's I'd rather do suspension and wheels at this point.


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