got my car back from earl schieb

[Dattebayo]

I heard for these sheisters you should prep and primer the car yourself so they wont have any room to mess up. But ive never heard of the glass being sanded... thats shady right there.

[shaun_bayarea]

man i'm totally lost here on what to do...i'm gonna have him replace my windows but i dont really want them to fix the car because of a few reasons. first i dont trust them at all, second the color doesnt really match up to the sample i was given and third it's gonna take them at least 10 days which is along time without my car for getting to and from work. what would you guys do. i think i'm gonna sand the whole car down to bare metal and then either paint it myself or tape it off and have a shop spray it for me. what should i do about the guy at earl scheib who wants to fix the things? i want a refund but he doesnt sound like he wants to do it

[ramrat]

Did you pay by credit card? If so you may be able to dispute the charge with them and have them (the credit card people) pursue against Schieb?

Another rout is the channel 6 news station (6 on your side). Not sure if this is bay area CA only or not.

Lastly what do you have to loose if you are going to strip down the car your self anyways if you have them shoot another couple coats of paint to make it look ok? You might be able to pick another color or the paint might come out ok - if not you might be able to color sand it to look ok? The cost of this is only 10 days (in a rental or loaner car from a friend or the bus?)

Hope some of those options help.

[ShadowKnight006]

Ramrat, I don't know if its just me but your pics dont open for me. Anyone else not seeing it?

[shaun_bayarea]

Lastly what do you have to loose if you are going to strip down the car your self anyways if you have them shoot another couple coats of paint to make it look ok? You might be able to pick another color or the paint might come out ok - if not you might be able to color sand it to look ok? The cost of this is only 10 days (in a rental or loaner car from a friend or the bus?)

Hope some of those options help.

i wouldnt mind it if they let me sand down the car and they repainted it but i dont think they are going to do that from how he was talking about it....i think i may call him tomorrow though and ask him if we could do that.

[Dattebayo]

I would ask him to bend over and take a few up his a$$ for that job. I would complain till god himself answered the call, or one of his bosses. And then when the job was done, i would ask for money back for such shoddy workmanship plus waiting all that time and make a website that comes up when you search on the net that trashes the name of earl for all who seek his services (or lack thereof). Then i would sue when the paint falls off. Then i resort to the shaving cream-confetti car bomb.

[240Knightrider]

Knightrider: Where in SC are you located?? I have though about painting my car... Just curious... Although the paint job that I am thinking about doing I know would probably be pricey.... I have though about doing it myself for that reason. But if there is a chance that somehow, somewhere I could find a paintshop to do a good job and for a good price.... Who knows! But I am thinking what would help me out the most would be to rent a paint booth for a night or so. And just do all the prep work before then once it is all done and the way I want it, just go to a paint booth for one or two nights and get the color put on...

We are located in Goose Creekemail me [email protected]

[shaun_bayarea]

I would ask him to bend over and take a few up his a$$ for that job. I would complain till god himself answered the call, or one of his bosses. And then when the job was done, i would ask for money back for such shoddy workmanship plus waiting all that time and make a website that comes up when you search on the net that trashes the name of earl for all who seek his services (or lack thereof). Then i would sue when the paint falls off. Then i resort to the shaving cream-confetti car bomb.

i called him up today and told him i wasnt happy with him just repairing the mistakes he made and so i said i would be willing to sand the whole car down myself and have him re-paint it and he said "whatever you want to do" he said that i can even change colors which i'm going to do since the original was so much different than the sample and i think he saw that. anyway it looks like it's gonna turn out good, i need my whole car sanded down by july 12th but do you guys think i should sand it down to bare metal or just to the factory paint? and if i did sand it to metal would it be fine to just be bare metal for maybe a week or so before they painted it?

[Soy]

Sand it down to nothing, then put a light coat of spray primer on the car yourself, just to protect the bare metal from the elements until the paint job. The less there is on the car before the new paint, the better the job usually comes out.

James

[S13ChucKAT]

Ill be doing some body work myself.. definatly make sure within at least 30 minutes of sanding to primer.. because metal immediatly begins to oxydize and rust as soon as its exposed to the elements.. so.. take that into mind

[180fan]

yeah dude like I said before when you were asking about if Earl Schieb sucked or not...yeah they suck arse.

[ShadowKnight006]

ok here is my question for everyone that has gone to earl shieb or macco, if you buy the paint(just the paint) yourself and have them do the application does it improve the job any? I figure that way atleast it will be the proper color. By the way I won't be going to earl shieb, but I dont have the equipment to do it myself so I am looking at maybe macco.

[flyfishz]

sorry to hear about your car. That really sucks. My son just got his car back from paint and it looks unbeleivable. Not ES... I helped out a freind and he traded his mechanic services to a custom paint shop that took 2 weeks to strip, acid etch prime sand, 2 color coats and 4 clear coats. I paid for materials $650but the paint job would have cost over 6k retail

Sorry about your deal... just start sanding an saving.. take about If you prep your car I tell you where to get painted for about 1500 and it would look great.

[BaliLover]

Earl is a huge joke among real shops, the running joke was you can tell they use plenty of paint because of the number of runs they usually have. The other joke was that they must put the paint on with a brush but heavy enough that it flows out.

Earl has been around for a LONG time and has always been horrible. Overspray, sanded glass, bad masking, etc is very typical of any cheap paint place. The average real paint shop will charge 1200-1800 for a quality paint job where parts are removed instead of masked, there no overspray, the car is glossy and the paint is smooth. It usually takes about a week, sometimes 2. Earl and macco however charge $200-$600, and take 2 days max.

Theres a reason they're so cheap. They use cheap paint, they don't take time to worry about little details, they don't take anything off, and they're body work isn't too good. But most people look at it as they are saving $800-$1200 so they don't mind too much. Also, they don't use clearcoat standard, but will often times push people to go with their "integrated clearcoat" What this means is that there is clearcoat added to the paint, which in reality does nothing but thin out the paint. Clearcoat is designed to be applied as a protective barrier on TOP of the paint, what good does it do if its the same layer as the paint?

Providing your own paint won't do much good, if they've got runs with a material they're familiar with, they won't do any better with one they don't have experience with.

You do get what you pay for, if something is that much cheaper, theres always a reason. Less labor, cheaper materials, etc.

You're lucky they're even talking to you about defects in the paint, they usually just tell people that defects are normal and to be expected for the price. There paint is also very prone to flaking off and fading out really bad.