got an exhaust ticket

[hopesfallhxc]

I jsut got an exhaust ticket in the state of FL. It was 63$ the officer said it was not OEM original equipment and made unessary(sp) noise. I have an HKS hiper exhaust. I thought that that exhaust was street legal? IF anyone has any info on the HKS hiper exhaust for an s13 on it being legal or advice on what i should do, please help. Thanks -Shaun

[SilviaLuvr]

Yup only because I was doing 53 in an unmarket 35mph speed zone.

[hopesfallhxc]

Yup only because I was doing 53 in an unmarket 35mph speed zone.

not sure if i quite understand that one. I wasnt speeding. If i was i wouldve gotten a speeding ticket. The officer said they were cracking down on exhausts.

[Silent Drifter]

Hey I just got a ticket last night cause the guys was a real ****.I also live in florida. But mine was do to unecessary noise, he said it wasnt stock so there for illegal. He said I cannot alter any part of the exhaust system. An it was 43 dollar ticket I think. Unless they tested to see how loud your exhaust is they shouldnt have given you a ticket. I was reading the statutes today. I wanna fight it but its one of those tickets you cant, because the statute says you cant alter the exhaust system to be louder than stock. An how does he know mines louder. I was doin 40 in 5th gear its as quite a Benz.

[SilviaLuvr]

not sure if i quite understand that one. I wasnt speeding. If i was i wouldve gotten a speeding ticket. The officer said they were cracking down on exhausts.

I was speeding. Instead of getting the speeding ticket, he gave me a ticket for my exhaust and liscene plate frame.

[leftovercrizack]

In some states you can't modify your exhaust, and other stuff.

[574-240sx]

Accually when I had my 240 i didn't get pulled over once for exhaust. Only once for speeding and no ticket. I also had Apex'i N1 duals and test pipe. I got pulled over several times in my civic. Cops tend to leave me alone. Cops can be ****s. It just means they had nothing better to do. They got tired of guarding the local donut shop and decided to pick on loud exhausts. Nick

[SmithSR]

In some states you can't modify your exhaust, and other stuff.

Very good point!

Read and follow the local laws.

[leftovercrizack]

Some states, they even have laws prohibiting modification to your supension.

Think that mainly has to do with height though.

[TachyonS14]

I think In Cali. the legal limit is 95 DB's or around there. So you can have what ever exhaust you like as long as It Is at or below the states legal limit. I think by law they are supposed to test your exhaust, but most cops don't carry a DB tester. I think you can fight It by going to a place where an officer will offically test it and wave the ticket IF you pass.

[offtheline]

I purposely bought the hiper because it is advertised as street legal. Here is a snip from the hks website

Q: I have and HKS exhaust and I wanted to know if it is street legal and is there any documentation?

A: All HKS exhaust systems are engineered to comply with the 95dB noise limit law specified by the California Highway Patrol and the Society of Automotive Engineers - Except ones that are designated for Off-Road Use only.

Each system is individually designed for a specific application and complies with the requirements of Sections 27150, 27151 & 27200 of the California Vehicle Code; and Title 13 of the California code of Regulations, Section 10361, which establishes a noise limit of 95dB(A) for passenger cars. This statement applies to unmodified HKS exhaust systems that are less than 13 months old, are in good condition and which have been properly installed on the specific vehicle for which it was designed.

The age of your exhaust system along with certain engine modifications, such as headers, intake, etc., may also affect its current noise level output.

Please check with your local and state law enforcement agencies for exact regulation requirements.

If you would like documentation on HKS exhausts that meet this criteria, please contact either your local authorized HKS Dealer or our Tech line at 310 491 3300.

[hopesfallhxc]

the hks exhaust is not loud. It has a nice low tone. Im gonna try to put on the stock exhaust, take it to the courthouse, have someone look at it so i can tell them i fixed the problem. I think it'll only cost me like 5$.

[Hijacker]

the problem here is that there isn't a blanket law to cover the entire country. it's left up to the states to decide, and then after that, localities can modify and override the state low with local ordinances. For instance, the state of virginia doesn't prohibit exhaust modification, but a neighboring town (where i go to college) recently instated an ordinance against modified exhausts. I feel that ordinances like those are there as add-on offenses in case you piss off the officer.

[dbhittin]

Cops around here tend to leave the cars that sound and look fast alone for some add reason. My old car was a POS 88 dodge shadow and i got pulled over all the time. But since i got my 240, haven't got pulled over and i race and have loud exhaust. I dont even have plates on my car for the last few months, and i just keep that one paper that goes on the window in my glove box. I just think it depends on the cop. We have some young ones here and thats probly why they dont care. Ive tried to get pulled over for my system, i would shake there cars, and they wouldn't do nothing.

[hopesfallhxc]

Ive tried to get pulled over for my system, i would shake there cars, and they wouldn't do nothing.

Im sorry but are you retarded?

[daniel240]

cops here in indiana dont give a ****. theres cars all over here w/ no exhausts that are loud as hell and they dont care. ive been pulled over many times and they have never said anything about my car or mods. and i had header, straight pipes to a high flow muffler.

[180fan]

In CA, any and all exhaust or intake modifications are illegal unless CARB paperwork for the modification is noted. In terms of noise pollution levels, 95db at at 3 feet (I think it's 3 ft) and from 3k rpm to 5k rpm is the testing range for CA. If the cop doesn't follow those guidelines then you can take him to court and have it waived unless he also busts you for no CARB sticker.

I have been pulled over for my exhaust once, but I told the cop I was getting a silencer and he let me off saying that he would check up on me as he was a neighborhood cop. Got the silencer, never put it on, never got checked on and it seems like most cops don't really care as long as you're not being an as$ and revving high on them as you/them pass by (I almost always let off the gas when passing a cop)

[hopesfallhxc]

out her in FL,...its all good...no **** cops...and no emissions!

out here in FL is where it happened. They just passed a law supposedly last year that says that your not aloud to have non OEM exhausts on unless the car is for track use only. I looked into it, and im pretty sure if i put my stock echaust on and show them i fixed the prob. it should be fine. Ill elt you kno how it goes.

[SilviaLuvr]

In some states you can't modify your exhaust, and other stuff.

I think in Jersey if the cops really want to be ****holes, they'll just call it a secondary offense.

[574-240sx]

cops here in indiana dont give a ****. theres cars all over here w/ no exhausts that are loud as hell and they dont care. ive been pulled over many times and they have never said anything about my car or mods. and i had header, straight pipes to a high flow muffler.

Yeah I love indiana. But living here you would thing they would pull over the trucks jacked up taller than my house, instead they pull you over for different color lights and let the next person going by without turn signals and lights even though the next person's car is a harard to the road. Nick

[Ligouri Rd]

Yeah, it all varies state to state. Here in illinois it is illegal to modify an exhaust to make it louder buuuut if the exhaust was louder (like with a hole in it) to begin with it is legal to replace it with an aftermarket exhaust. Around here there is no 95dB limit like Cali (where most of the exhausts {HKS, Apexi, Blitz}get imported to). A friend of mine got a ticket using an Apexi WS system (the quietest Apexi has). I found a statute that motorboats cannot exceed 95dB, so I replace boat with vehicle, printed it, and showed it to the Judge. The ticket got dismissed (we were lucky).

[kaptain chump]

OK i also live in florida and i know these things for a fact. My father is a cop, ive asked many cops, and i generally know basic laws. If a cop give you a SOUND VIOLATION ticket for the exhaust, you can take it to court and chances are youll win(sound violation tickets for exhaust have to be measured with a DB meter). If the police officer wrote it as a "non-factory exhaust" you'll definately lose in court :/. The state of florida does NOT allow the use of aftermarket non-OEM exhausts on cars. I wouldnt take it to court if i were you maing :/

[hopesfallhxc]

but how does the cop kno what exhaust came on my car or anyone elses? What if i bought the car with that exhaust on there?

[240SXedUp]

Quote »What if i bought the car with that exhaust on there?[/quote] Thats like saying its ok to keep a kilo of cocaine in the trunk because it was in the car when you bought it.But anyway, **** the police. Who cares if i have an exhaust system that isnt OEM. I hope I dont get pulled over for mine. Its not like im an arrogant prick who goes redline everytime i get a red to green light or goes around reving my car next to mini vans. I feel much safer sleeping at night knowing the old blues are protecting us from aftermarket exhausts.

[zion]

In GA, i know that technicly anything that you do to your car after stock is considered unlawful and can get you a ticket, wheather it be a jacked up truck or a lowered car with exhaust, anything that is not to factory spec.

[hopesfallhxc]

no that is not like saying its ok to keep a kilo of cocaine in the trunk because it was in the car when you bought it. its like saying if the previous owner had put new brakes, or struts/springs,whatever and i had no previous knowledge of the stock ride height or all the stock specs of the car then say i get pulled over in say california and the cop decides the car looks a little low, and measures it(i dont know the legal hieght) and gives me a ticket for being too low. just one scenerio. the cocain thing is rediculous, completly different. i didnt get pulled over for the exhaust, he threw in that ticket after i was pulled over. the hks hiper exhaust is a very low deep toned exhaust. its not much louder than stock.

[hopesfallhxc]

another rant... why dont i see motorcycles, old muscle cars, and hot rods getting tickets for non-oem exhausts? i have friends with extremely loud motorcycles and old fords and trucks. whenever they get pulled over they say they are never hasseled by their exhausts. all non-oem custom exhausts.

[fuzion]

I've gotten two exhaust tickets in California for my N1 Dual

1st one was signed off2nd one was dismissed. CVC says it's not automatically illegal; they had no way of testing it and I went back and forth between CHP HQ and the smog test center.. they kept saying "no you need to see them to get it tested".. judge dismissed it..

Whats funny is my 1st ticket was up in cowboy country, tons of trucks running with NO exhaust, loud as hell, and I got pulled over..

I was actually doing 50 or so in a 40 - 45; I didnt realize it was a cop behind me and once I hit the freeway I went up to 80 or 90.. it was a local cadet, he pulled me over and said "well some people think it looks nice but it's just a waste of money"

... right.. anywho, local law enforcement cannot enforce stricter laws, atleast in California.. so a local pd can't come up and say that it's too loud if it passes CHP inspection. According to the vehicle code any such ticket would be dropped, I think o_O

[Anand]

I just got a ticket last Friday for exhaust form a CHP. The reason why he wanted to pull me over was because of my tinted windows. He actually stopped in traffic to get behind mea dn pulled me over and told me to pop my hook and looked all over and asked me what my "toggle" switch is for and everything... he gave me a ticket for tinted windows and another for my echaust being too loud... code VC27151. I just ave to get it tested and see if it passes the 95dbA level. I don't know if it will pass... I have an appointment this Friday to check. If not:

I am trying ot get some silencers for my N1 dual and see if that will pass... if that doesn'twork then I will try to swap it out for stock and get it written off... I hate CHP!

on that note, I know I have asked already but does anyone have 2 silencers for N1 duals that I can borrow????

[mrflip69]

There's an amendment to that law... whoever pulls you over for loud exhaust, it's up to their "discretion". Whatever the ***** that means. So they don't need to use a decibel meter to test it. But! You can get a certificate that certifies your exhaust as being legal from a state referee and tell that cop to piss off.

If you want to be safe, just don't be an *** and rev through a neighboorhood at 2 a.m. with your exhaust roaring.

Has anybody gotten a ticket WITH the silencers for the Apex'i Dual N1's?