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Alright here's the deal. My factory shocks are blown and I've looked at pretty much every coilover option for an S13.

I really want to spend like $1400 or less(preferably less), and for this fact am leaning heavily towards getting the Megan Racing coils. On the other hand i also like the Stance coils.

I've read good and bad for both, and was just wondering if anyone else knew of some other decent coil setup that could be had for my price.

also, i don't yet have any plans on tracking the car. but i have recently been pondering joining the SCCA and doing the solo events.
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tons of coilovers in your price range. search in some of the coilover threads, and you will get tons of opinions and suggestions.

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get something where pre-load and ride height are separate

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adrians_s13 wrote:get something where pre-load and ride height are separate
please elaborate???what that means lol.. i know im noobim also on the market for coilovers

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pre-load is how much pressure is actually on the spring.preload is controlled by the aluminum collars that hold the spring.Ride-height is how long the shock actually is, this is usually adjusted by the lower bracket being able to thread up and down the shock body.

my question seems pretty stupid now that i've looked at it. I had read most of the coilover threads i'd found here. I just felt like asking in case i'd missed anything.

btw, has anyone used the stance Gr+pro, and what's your opinion on them?it looks like stance has revised the design quite a bit from past pictures i've seen.


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240DRifter7 wrote:please elaborate???what that means lol.. i know im noobim also on the market for coilovers
lol... just look for the coilovers that has 3 spanners instead of just 2 (ride height)... that way you can slam your car without sacrificing ride comfort / quality

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alright,one more thing to add. At what stage do i need to get RUCAs?currently i have about a 6 finger tire to fender gap all around, i'd like to drop it to 3 fingers worth for starters. with about a 1.5-1.75" drop would i run into camber issues with the stock stuff?

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krazydriver wrote:alright,one more thing to add. At what stage do i need to get RUCAs?currently i have about a 6 finger tire to fender gap all around, i'd like to drop it to 3 fingers worth for starters. with about a 1.5-1.75" drop would i run into camber issues with the stock stuff?
Ive got the megan racing street coils. i left the ride drop at the default settings that the coils came out of the box which were perfect for me.

that left me with a -2.5 camber in the rear without RUCAS, wich is about perfect for what you want to do at the track as long as you get an alignment and get the toe adjusted properly. (get the front adjusted to -2.5 as well and then for track events use the camber plates to go to -3.5)I have seen No uneven tire wear after a year.

but yeah, megans, Stance and take a look at the STS coils that SPL sells.about a year ago i was in your shoes debating between the 3, and i dont remember the feature comparisons between the 3 now

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^^Since you race regularly on your megan coils.. they cant be that bad.Someone on here said this.. "Stance is the lowest you should go on coilovers, anything lower would be in coil over shock range"

so it cant be true if after a year of abuse on your megans and they still work fine.

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240DRifter7 wrote:^^Since you race regularly on your megan coils.. they cant be that bad.Someone on here said this.. "Stance is the lowest you should go on coilovers, anything lower would be in coil over shock range"

so it cant be true if after a year of abuse on your megans and they still work fine.
Oh, my Megans are NOT low at all really. default setting was a good setting for me, but they could be slammed a lot more. Stance can go lower than megans though.

I didnt get them to slam my car and go as low as possible though...

but yeah, megans still work fine, wisconsin roads are pretty bad to, and they dont even show any signs from the winter... This summer, however, will be its last season as a daily driver, plan on picking up a winter beater come fall.

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lol by lowest i think he was talking about price..

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Currently there are some K Sports for sale in Craigslist for around $770.

http://losangeles.craigslist.o....html

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oh, lol.

K-sports are pretty much bottom of the barrel...

brand new megans with warranty can be had for around 900 shipped.

not saying they are better, just that i have had a good experience with them, and they are cheaper than stance...

also, i can almost garaunty arguments if i post the email from the manufacturring company of the megan coils where he clarifies that the megans are the same coils as the apexi' and their own top of the line coil (the apexi costing a couple 100 more and their coils costing much more) since they manufacture the apexi coils for apexi as well.

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don't go with k-sport.... /k-sport rant

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yeah most of the reviews i've read didn't have anything good to say about the ksports....

glitched, i think it's cool the megans have lasted that long, that was my big catch with those. some people said they weren't the best quality.i also didn't know megan had a warranty, which kinda one-ups the stance coils because i can't find any warranty information for them.

i like the stance Gr+, but the megans have the same features and cost like $200 less, and have a nice warranty. hmmmm....

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glitched wrote:oh, lol.

K-sports are pretty much bottom of the barrel...

brand new megans with warranty can be had for around 900 shipped.

not saying they are better, just that i have had a good experience with them, and they are cheaper than stance...

also, i can almost garaunty arguments if i post the email from the manufacturring company of the megan coils where he clarifies that the megans are the same coils as the apexi' and their own top of the line coil (the apexi costing a couple 100 more and their coils costing much more) since they manufacture the apexi coils for apexi as well.
Id love to see that E-mail...everyone doubts megan..but i dont see why...

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I'd say go with KTS coilovers from spl parts, they are one of our sponsors. they are very good quality and they have adjustable shock height and spring perch. on top of that instead of having to rebuild them when they where out you can just have them put a new damper in instead.

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I've never read a single bad thing about STANCE? Please elaborate on that.

I also have the GR+ pro's and have nothing but good things to say about them. Never driven on anything else though...so take that with a grain of salt. Ridden in other things, but that's different.

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240DRifter7 wrote:
Id love to see that E-mail...everyone doubts megan..but i dont see why...
rom: [email protected] <[email protected]> Mailed-By: http://www.bcec.com.tw

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Dear Mr. King;

Thank you for your interest in BC Racing I'll be glad to answer your questions. We've had numerous e-mails in regards to the Apexi N1 EVX kit and Megan Racing kit both the Apexi and Megan kit utilize the same design, features, and internals that we have on our personal line the VH model. Their have been some speculation that Apexi kit utilize a different type of internal system, I can assure you thats not true the Apexi kit utilizes the same monotube valving system as our VH line and as well as the Megan Racing, Buddy Club version. We can not disclose any nformation regarding the contract of each company as it goes against our privacy policy. Please refer to our website http://www.bcec.com.tw/function/function.html to get a better idea of how our kits are designed and functions. If there is any more questions please let us know and we'll be glad to help you.

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A Chevy and a Ford utilize many of the same systems but the Ford is still a peice of ****...

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I've had my megan coils for about 6000miles of harsh Nj road driving and they are holding up just fine. Love them and I'm about to buy a set for my miata beater!

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D2 racing coils

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If your gonna spen 1k in suspension, you atleast need to slam it.

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I'd say get Megan, but if u can ball out some more cash get Stance. After coilovers you should invest in some RUCAs.
kckouki wrote:If your gonna spen 1k in suspension, you atleast need to slam it.
If you're gonna spend atleast 1k in suspension, you atleast need to keep the car and not sell it. KTHX.

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Clawhammer wrote:A Chevy and a Ford utilize many of the same systems but the Ford is still a peice of ****...
^^That is completely opinion over Ford or Chevy..thus you cannot use that comparison in this situation.. and Ford pwns Chevy..sorry

Tell me have you ever heard a story of someones Megan coilovers breaking,failing,wearing,If you have.. please tell.cuz i have not

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Go stance or KTS. You will NOT be dissapointed with either of them. Megan's are cheap and reliable, they're not bad. If you drop it around 3", your camber will be aroud -3. You should be straight at a 2inchish drop with a -2ish camber. So if you feel that you're unhappy with the camber, then get the RUCAS. There's a crapload of reviews on alot of coilovers around here, but I made a poll not too long ago, and it was a 9 to 2 vote favoring Stance basics over Megans. Stay away from D2 and Ksport.

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You fail to see the point my child. I can make that comparison cause you're gonna get a lot of the same **** with Apexi vs. Megan, personal opinion between brands. And there's lots of stories of Megan's leaking. Although recently I've heard nothing but good about Megans, rewind a year or so and it's a different story. Progress is good.

A guy on z ilvia had Apexi's and Megans back during the whole Megans are rebranded Apexi's controversy and proved they were not even close to the same. His name is slizzooo or something like that go look for it if you're interested. I remember from back when I lurked there and here.

However I've been hearing LOTS of horror stories on their suspension arms. I was planning to get all MR arms but after hearing horror story after horror story of them breaking, holes not being the right size, thread's being to short or going the WRONG way, and crappy welds, I won't be. Check this out:



And that is a short synopsis for whoever asked why people always dog on MR...probably the same person my memory fails me.
240DRifter7 wrote:and Ford pwns Chevy

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krazydriver wrote:I really want to spend like $1400 or less(preferably less), and for this fact am leaning heavily towards getting the Megan Racing coils. On the other hand i also like the Stance coils.

I've read good and bad for both, and was just wondering if anyone else knew of some other decent coil setup that could be had for my price.
Clawhammer wrote:I've never read a single bad thing about STANCE? Please elaborate on that.

I also have the GR+ pro's and have nothing but good things to say about them. Never driven on anything else though...so take that with a grain of salt. Ridden in other things, but that's different.
I have also yet to see any bad reviews on Stance coilovers. Care to elaborate what you mean by the "bad" besides being insignificantly more expensive?

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I've been running Megan Streets since Febuary, and they are holding up fine. I've tried different ride heights and damp settings. Don't believe the bullcrap you hear about them. I have a Honda friend who thinks Koni's and springs are the best setup for any car, and coilovers are a waste. He also thinks Ksports have better quality than the Megans...

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yelnatsch517 wrote: I have also yet to see any bad reviews on Stance coilovers. Care to elaborate what you mean by the "bad" besides being insignificantly more expensive?
yeah my apologies, i was saying that largely in reference to people complaining about the megans. Although there were a few account of popping/clunking sounds from the pillowballs, and helper springs with some of the stances.

clawhammer, i'd seen some of those pics of the megan arms.. frightening stuff. if i get rucas i'm pretty sure i'll go with SPL.


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