Generic Greddy E-Manage

[page02wrx]

I'm not exactly sure how this works

I can get a killer deal on one.... but I don't understand it...

Is it universal? Or what.... or do I need some type of software?

Is E-manage compatible with the CA?

I'd like to know cause I'm swapping mine into a new shell and if its possible for me to wire in management NOW, it will really help me in the future I think.

[mbmbmb23]

I'm not exactly sure how this works

I can get a killer deal on one.... but I don't understand it...

Is it universal? Or what.... or do I need some type of software?

Is E-manage compatible with the CA?

I'd like to know cause I'm swapping mine into a new shell and if its possible for me to wire in management NOW, it will really help me in the future I think.

You might try and find out what comes with it (from whomever is selling it to you). The software costs extra if you dont already have it. Also find out what harnesses and sensors come with it (from the seller), you will need those also (which can be purchased separately elsewhere).

-m

[page02wrx]

You might try and find out what comes with it (from whomever is selling it to you). The software costs extra if you dont already have it. Also find out what harnesses and sensors come with it (from the seller), you will need those also (which can be purchased separately elsewhere).

-m

Ok I'll find out more information, but can you tell me if buying it, even say without software/harness I would be able to make it compatible with my ecu?

Like... I could buy a harness for the ca18, buy the tuning program, and wire it into my ecu....

[page02wrx]

Ok I talked to him it comes with the main harness and software

The harness wires it into my ecu, but I'll have to buy additional harnesses if I want to re-scale my injectors or control my timing. I'll probably look into both harnesses.

But the main harness will wire in

My next question is, can I wire in the emanage yet run my stock ecu map until I get an actual tune when I put my injectors/turbo on?

[Zero260]

http://greddy.com/products/dis...ry=48

[johngriff]

I use the greddy emanage ultimate.

The install is a PITA, i would recomend prof installation.

W/ Emanage Blue, you get a "base software" and then can but the "full software" for another $100..

Emanage ultimate, is all inclusive, get that.

Does is work with ca? Yes

Get the AF/R harness when you order it so you can import your wideband and use O2 Feedback.

[page02wrx]

I use the greddy emanage ultimate.

The install is a PITA, i would recomend prof installation.

W/ Emanage Blue, you get a "base software" and then can but the "full software" for another $100..

Emanage ultimate, is all inclusive, get that.

Does is work with ca? Yes

Get the AF/R harness when you order it so you can import your wideband and use O2 Feedback.

I have a friend really good at doing the whole wiring ecu thing helping me to install it...

It is the blue emanage, the base... I don't have a wideband but the place I am getting tuned at does so I won't have to buy one, because I won't be self-tuning the Emanage. I'll probably wire it in and wire the ignition harness in, and then zero out the emanage so it doesn't come on.... and leave it there until I get my turbo and injectors to get it tuned.

Also, do you happen to know where I can find a diagram for the CA18 ECU?

[float_6969]

There is a link to the FSM in the stickies. Every bit of info you would need to wire in the emange is in there. IIRC there is also a write up for installing the emange as well.

[page02wrx]

There is a link to the FSM in the stickies. Every bit of info you would need to wire in the emange is in there. IIRC there is also a write up for installing the emange as well.

i love you

[rexhunta]

yeha i've already done a full writeup, it's in the article section somewhere from memory

i run emanage basic ( the blue) in my CA.

[johngriff]

well.

Dont get the blue. You might as well just use an safc.

Get the ultimate, it is teh sex.

And get the af/r harness. I am not lying to you.

Offhand, I know the ultimate does have the install instructions in the supplied booklet. But there is nothing wrong with having the FSM handy.

Freaking 9 hour install..... but I am persnickity not to on my track car.

[page02wrx]

well.

Dont get the blue. You might as well just use an safc.

Get the ultimate, it is teh sex.

And get the af/r harness. I am not lying to you.

Offhand, I know the ultimate does have the install instructions in the supplied booklet. But there is nothing wrong with having the FSM handy.

Freaking 9 hour install..... but I am persnickity not to on my track car.

I only have access to the greddy emanage

what is the af/r harness? lets you log your a/f's? You'd need a wideband then huh?

I don't plan on TUNING the car myself, for what its worth.... I just need some type of engine management for hybrid dynamics to tune me. Its going to get wired in the car but zero'd out so it doesnt kick over.

Will I need the af/r harness if I'm getting professionally tuned? Or do I only need that if I"m self tuning and need to log af/r's? Also I am probably going to install the ignition timing harness too, good idea right?
Modified by page02wrx at 4:39 PM 5/14/2007

[rexhunta]

well.

Dont get the blue. You might as well just use an safc.

Get the ultimate, it is teh sex.

And get the af/r harness. I am not lying to you.

Offhand, I know the ultimate does have the install instructions in the supplied booklet. But there is nothing wrong with having the FSM handy.

Freaking 9 hour install..... but I am persnickity not to on my track car.

How do you compare the blue version to an safc.. an safc only does Air.. blue can do air, fuel, sub injectors, data logging, vtech control and heap of other functions if you buy the correct harnesses and set the unit up right.

mine controls injectors, air, lets me run my rb20 afm and i randomly use it to drive to work and get some logging.

do that with your safc.

[johngriff]

EHh maybe you dont understand, I HATE the Safc.

The blue is based around AFM manipulation

The ultimate works off of I/O on Spark and Ign, plus tons of other features, not mention greddy is has put a fork in the blue.

Get the AF/R harness, because jay will be your friend forever because he can datalog the wideband against the ins/outs in the emanage, instead of feedback only.

[page02wrx]

EHh maybe you dont understand, I HATE the Safc.

The blue is based around AFM manipulation

The ultimate works off of I/O on Spark and Ign, plus tons of other features, not mention greddy is has put a fork in the blue.

Get the AF/R harness, because jay will be your friend forever because he can datalog the wideband against the ins/outs in the emanage, instead of feedback only.

My friend says you can wire in a harness to actually scale the injectors, and not manipulate the AFM. Edit: But i cant seem to find the harness so perhaps it does just manipulate the MAF volts.

Which in turn could manipulate how the stock ECU pulls time under load. Thats while I'll need the ignition timing harness.

I will wire in the af/r harness. Hopefully some type of ignition and injector one too
Modified by page02wrx at 5:09 PM 5/14/2007

[johngriff]

its going to be a constant battle between afm and timing.

It sucks.

Just do the Ultimate.

[page02wrx]

its going to be a constant battle between afm and timing.

It sucks.

Just do the Ultimate.

You're telling me hybrid dynamics isn't going to be able to safely tune my greddy emanage?

Why the hell would anybody buy or use or recommend the emanage if its impossible to safely tune them?

I'm not doing ultimate. I can't get ultimate for $100.

[float_6969]

Good Morning, ease up man. You've made it PAINFULLY clear that you don't think highly of the eManage blue. That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. But your constant, repetitive, input isn't helping anyone.

He's not getting the Ultimate. If you can't accept that then quit posting in this thread.

[dash]

several ca18s on sxoc have sucessfully run emanage blue.Last one I recall was over 300hp.First was a couple years back and allowed that ca18 to run a T3 @20+psi for 2 straight years. Did have some misfire issues when trying to 'advance' ignition timing, but eventually figured out a 'work-around'. Results? nuff said.Nothing wrong with the blue IF you undrstand what you're doing.

Any running examples of a ca18 with the ultimate ?

[page02wrx]

several ca18s on sxoc have sucessfully run emanage blue.Last one I recall was over 300hp.First was a couple years back and allowed that ca18 to run a T3 @20+psi for 2 straight years. Did have some misfire issues when trying to 'advance' ignition timing, but eventually figured out a 'work-around'. Results? nuff said.Nothing wrong with the blue IF you undrstand what you're doing.

Any running examples of a ca18 with the ultimate ?

Well I plan on, as of right now, simply running the gt2871r with 660's or perhaps bigger injectors.

In any case, I'm aiming for around 300whp. I think Hybrid will be able to retard my timing earlier in my MAF/Load table to compensate for the "maf manipulation"

I'm assuming its a concrete map of RPM's vs MAF Load... So if they can just pull time earlier I don't see why its not going to be a safe tune.

[good morning]

Good Morning, ease up man. You've made it PAINFULLY clear that you don't think highly of the eManage blue. That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. But your constant, repetitive, input isn't helping anyone.

He's not getting the Ultimate. If you can't accept that then quit posting in this thread.

Sorry I do not follow this forum. You delete my post then say I am entitled to my opinion? Talk about counter active.

I have years of high end tuning experience. I do it for a living. I think it is funny johngriff giving great advise and it is throw away.

Oh well.

[page02wrx]

Sorry I do not follow this forum. You delete my post then say I am entitled to my opinion? Talk about counter active.

I have years of high end tuning experience. I do it for a living. I think it is funny johngriff giving great advise and it is throw away.

Oh well.

Either way the point is I'm not getting ultimate. Clearly the first post states I'm getting a good deal on emanage.... so unless you find me ultimate for $100 I'm not getting it.

I'm not asking about ultimate either. So after its mentioned once, and shut down, it should not be mentioned again. It's like some one else coming in here telling me to get the AEM stand alone... The topic is not about the AEM stand alone.

Either way, as long as hybrid can knock out my closed loop and long term fuel trims, along with my timing map, I HIGHLY doubt I'm going to have any problems with the base emanage.

Ultimate seems easier to tune with, especially for a novice. But I'm NOT self-tuning the car.

[float_6969]

Sorry I do not follow this forum. You delete my post then say I am entitled to my opinion? Talk about counter active.

I have years of high end tuning experience. I do it for a living. I think it is funny johngriff giving great advise and it is throw away.

Oh well.

IDK FTW you're talking about. I didn't delete any posts...

[good morning]

Good Morning, ease up man.

IDK FTW you're talking about. I didn't delete any posts...

Sorry I do not follow this forum.

Like I said, I do not follow this forum. I remember a e-manage thread with the same posters.

Either way the point is I'm not getting ultimate. Clearly the first post states I'm getting a good deal on emanage.... so unless you find me ultimate for $100 I'm not getting it.

I'm not asking about ultimate either. So after its mentioned once, and shut down, it should not be mentioned again. It's like some one else coming in here telling me to get the AEM stand alone... The topic is not about the AEM stand alone.

Either way, as long as hybrid can knock out my closed loop and long term fuel trims, along with my timing map, I HIGHLY doubt I'm going to have any problems with the base emanage.

Ultimate seems easier to tune with, especially for a novice. But I'm NOT self-tuning the car.

I do not see why it is so hard to understand that people are trying to help with info and are brused off because it is "cheaper and easier" to do it one way. You will have problems, it is that simple.

I hope the best, good luck.

[page02wrx]

I do not see why it is so hard to understand that people are trying to help with info and are brused off because it is "cheaper and easier" to do it one way. You will have problems, it is that simple.

I hope the best, good luck.

Right, because a certified tuner isn't going to be able to scale my timing table to pull time according to my MAFV manipulation. The main concern with lying to the computer is figuring out the side effects of what happens. If it manipulates the MAFV, then its directly effecting load vs rpm and when timing is pulled, which SIMPLY MEANS timing has to be pulled earlier in the timing table, along with fuel.

Heres something pretty simple. I have Emanage, not Emanage ultimate. Stay on topic. I use a $90 tactrix cable to tune my WRX, I wonder when I'm gonna get the "Just buy a hydra" comment ($1500 standalone).

[rexhunta]

so, i've been running emanage blue since last june. Tuned by a local tuner here in Australia.

i use my blue for timing, and fuel.

have i ever had a problem with emanage blue. no.

it runs flawlessly, does everything i want, for a great price and easy installation.

INFACT, emanage blue was so great, it diagnosed my coilpack issue BY ITSELF, by letting me know i had a improper timing issue due to missing.

but, of course, your a pro tuner, you know everything, i keep forgetting.

My 2 cents. don't like it, don't read it.

You don't always hafta follow the bandwagon.. it's okay to use other products.

and if emanage blue is so ****, why was Greddy using it on thier D1GP car in 05 and i think the start of 06 mounted on the dashboard so everyone could see.........

[page02wrx]

There is a link to the FSM in the stickies. Every bit of info you would need to wire in the emange is in there. IIRC there is also a write up for installing the emange as well.

Float I cant seem to find the actual e-manage FSM in the stickies, maybe I"m just overlooking it but could you link it to me?

And everybody else thanks for the replies.

[rexhunta]

zerothread/199965

you can get all the manuals and the software manuals off greddy.com

[float_6969]

The emanage info you'll have to get off of Greddy's site, the S13 FSM is in the stickies.