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Do you guys know what your stock G50 Q45 (1990-95) will/can run in the 1/4 mile?What does your G50 Q45s run now???If not in the low 14 second range, what would it take to get trap speeds around 100mph in the 1/4?I'm not interested in turning a G50 into a 1320 machine, but I don't want to be outrun by a ricer etc. on the highway either on my way to work :. If you know what I mean... :Thanks for any info You guys have.-Rob

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Read the posts by Rsiwicki
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I don't get any search results when I search his name??? :
maxnix wrote:Read the posts by Rswicki

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Sorry, I dropped an i

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The major problem is the 4AT was not designed for a fast shift as opposed to smooth lux shifting These 2 -1/2 second delays add up.Problem 2 is the gear spread where a 90-93 hits redline at 93-94 mph and a 94-96 hits it at 97-98 mph.

The first step is to secure a revised redline ecu to add 400 rpms to each gears upper limit.

Short of Nitrous 100mph is impossible now 98 mph maybe.

After ecu each 10 HP is expensive to achieve and you need about 70 more or a new transmission designed for quarter mile.

Never race a car that weighs much less than you do [3800 pounds is the lower limit].

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Q45tech wrote:The major problem is the 4AT was not designed for a fast shift as opposed to smooth lux shifting These 2 -1/2 second delays add up.Problem 2 is the gear spread where a 90-93 hits redline at 93-94 mph and a 94-96 hits it at 97-98 mph.

The first step is to secure a revised redline ecu to add 400 rpms to each gears upper limit.

Short of Nitrous 100mph is impossible now 98 mph maybe.

After ecu each 10 HP is expensive to achieve and you need about 70 more or a new transmission designed for quarter mile.

Never race a car that weighs much less than you do [3800 pounds is the lower limit].
I understand that so...Would the G50 be able to keep up with cars such as an E36 M3, LT1 f-body, s2000, g35 sedan, etc. from a roll?

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If racing is your main priority, why are you even looking at purchasing a 4000 pound old luxury sedan {q45}? Seems like you are asking dress shoes to perform on the court?


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qship96 wrote:If racing is your main priority, why are you even looking at purchasing a 4000 pound old luxury sedan {q45}? Seems like you are asking dress shoes to perform on the court?
It's not my main priority. That duty goes to my Z32 TT, and my 92 s13 (xs kit coming soon). But I don't want to be overtaken when I'm just cruising on my way to work and I'm not driving the Z32 everyday. Right now I've got a 5.9L Jeep Grand Cherokee. It moves out pretty quick for it's girth. I was just hoping the Q45 would move out a little quicker and would definitely have a little more class. Thanks anyway.-Rob

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One hour with a trained clinical Psychologist could begin to get to the root of that inferiority complex.....

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qship96 wrote:One hour with a trained clinical Psychologist could begin to get to the root of that inferiority complex.....
Thanks for the advice. Maybe next time you can answer my question instead of being rude... I don't want to buy a car that I thought was fast, only to find out it isn't. So I wanted to kow of actual times people have gotten since I've heard claims that it was fast. But I'm sure there's no such thing as a fast sedan, or wanting a fast sedan

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qship96 wrote:One hour with a trained clinical Psychologist could begin to get to the root of that inferiority complex.....
one hour? Come on, the nature of a shrink is to create MORE HOURS

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paranoidjack wrote:
one hour? Come on, the nature of a shrink is to create MORE HOURS
You're not going to be a douchebag in reponce to a simple question too, are you?Come on guys... I keep hearing that Q45s are pretty quick. You're sort of letting me down. Maybe I should buy a GS400, no that's not going to happen . YOu guys think your car is fast don't you? Let's hear some first hand experience now...

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The car is super slow, please buy a different make/model..... maybe a Trans-Am with a srceaming chicken on the hood would be better suited for you and help cure that limp mentality

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qship96 wrote:The car is super slow, please buy a different make/model..... maybe a Trans-Am with a srceaming chicken on the hood would be better suited for you and help cure that limp mentality
Listen buddy...I'm looking for a damn sedan to replace my 98 grand cherokee. I've already got a Z32 tt and a 92 S13. I don't need another coupe. I already owned a 99 LS1 at some point, but that's a different story. I wanted to know if the Q45 is quick for a sedan. Apparently you can't answer that question from first hand experience. Maybe you shouldn't have posted in my thread? You obviously don't have any track times to post, so see ya later. You can keep posting useless, rude, crap; but I'm not going to respond to it anymore. Thanks for nothing.

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qship96 wrote:The car is super slow, please buy a different make/model..... maybe a Trans-Am with a srceaming chicken on the hood would be better suited for you and help cure that limp mentality
I don't honestly know why you have to be soo rude. I was just asking members what times, if any, they had achieved in their G50. Wanted some info, kept hearing mid 15's, I guess that's all it has in it.

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Discerning wrote:
I don't honestly know why you have to be soo rude. I was just asking members what times, if any, they had achieved in their G50. Wanted some info, kept hearing mid 15's, I guess that's all it has in it.
Please excuse the rudeness of some of our members....they don't think like you do. Anyway, you want to know how fast the Q45 is in the quarter mile? In stock form, it's not that fast but there is a beast waiting to be unleashed.

I've got two Q45s. One that is NA and one that is boosted. Either one is a joy to drive. The 95 Q, which is NA, is faster than most cars on the road once it is rolling. It is not so great from stoplights but that is because of the weight and the gearing.

Once the car is rolling, especially on the highway, it really packs a wallop. The mods on the 95 Q are: rear muffler delete, 18 deg. base timing, modified stock airbox, NGK Iridium plugs, Castrol Syntec 0w-30, Mobil 1 Trans Fluid and Mobil 1 Diff Oil.

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sijoko wrote:
Please excuse the rudeness of some of our members....they don't think like you do. Anyway, you want to know how fast the Q45 is in the quarter mile? In stock form, it's not that fast but there is a beast waiting to be unleashed.

I've got two Q45s. One that is NA and one that is boosted. Either one is a joy to drive. The 95 Q, which is NA, is faster than most cars on the road once it is rolling. It is not so great from stoplights but that is because of the weight and the gearing.

Once the car is rolling, especially on the highway, it really packs a wallop. The mods on the 95 Q are: rear muffler delete, 18 deg. base timing, modified stock airbox, NGK Iridium plugs, Castrol Syntec 0w-30, Mobil 1 Trans Fluid and Mobil 1 Diff Oil.
Oh yeah, you're sabre logos on infiniti-turbo.com right? Thanks for the info, that was the impression I had. I just want something that's elegant and doesn't get a lot of attention but can still be a lot of fun during the commute. That's what I meant when I said I'm not going to drag race it, just some highway fun, or maybe showing up some POS like a tiburon, JK. If I ever get really creative I might try to mimic your setup LOL. Thanks again.-Rob

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Guys quit being bungholes to him.

I was too young to drive my father's G50 however I currently drive a Y33 with no mods or anything of that nature, and I will say that it is decently fast. I have beaten people that have been in Scion TC's, Mustang GT's (although I think that guy's GT logo was a sticker because I kinda really beat him badly), beat and pissed off some guy in a white ricer mazda at night the other day, a Corolla, a Volvo 960, the list just goes on and on.

The Y33 is supposed to be slower than the G50 so I can only say that back in the day the G50 was a powerhouse, 278 horses was a great feat, however now, compared to something like the M45 with 340 horses, or the G37 that has 330 from a V6, its not as strong as before.

Don't get me wrong, I love to race people in my Y33 when they think I drive some old guy car, and its nearly silent at the same time, while their muffler sounds like it ate a can of beans, but keep in mind, and you should know this, it really depends on the driver.

If you can outsmart whoever you're racing, you can beat a good number of people in our Q45s'. And if you lose, just remember, your car has leather... wood... Bose speakers... A classy analog clock that I wouldn't mind making into a watch... unique styling... basically you can enjoy your car, while the other guy probably has a 4 cylinder engine, a girlfriend that I probably hit up last week, cans of red bull in his back seat, or maybe no back seat at all to reduce weight, two giant $50 subwoofers that sound horrible, Fake carbon fibre trimming, you get my point.

Get a Q, trust me you'll enjoy it, its reasonably fast, and very luxurious

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IceCubeFoSho wrote:Guys quit being bungholes to him.

I was too young to drive my father's G50 however I currently drive a Y33 with no mods or anything of that nature, and I will say that it is decently fast. I have beaten people that have been in Scion TC's, Mustang GT's (although I think that guy's GT logo was a sticker because I kinda really beat him badly), beat and pissed off some guy in a white ricer mazda at night the other day, a Corolla, a Volvo 960, the list just goes on and on.

The Y33 is supposed to be slower than the G50 so I can only say that back in the day the G50 was a powerhouse, 278 horses was a great feat, however now, compared to something like the M45 with 340 horses, or the G37 that has 330 from a V6, its not as strong as before.

Don't get me wrong, I love to race people in my Y33 when they think I drive some old guy car, and its nearly silent at the same time, while their muffler sounds like it ate a can of beans, but keep in mind, and you should know this, it really depends on the driver.

If you can outsmart whoever you're racing, you can beat a good number of people in our Q45s'. And if you lose, just remember, your car has leather... wood... Bose speakers... A classy analog clock that I wouldn't mind making into a watch... unique styling... basically you can enjoy your car, while the other guy probably has a 4 cylinder engine, a girlfriend that I probably hit up last week, cans of red bull in his back seat, or maybe no back seat at all to reduce weight, two giant $50 subwoofers that sound horrible, Fake carbon fibre trimming, you get my point.

Get a Q, trust me you'll enjoy it, its reasonably fast, and very luxurious
That's what I'm thinking. I want something to cruise in and use to commute to work.

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Yeah in that case, I'd say a Q would be a prime candidate

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IceCubeFoSho wrote:Yeah in that case, I'd say a Q would be a prime candidate
I certainly think so. Plus I'm a big Nissan fan. It would be awesome to convert the car into a Nissan President

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Discerning wrote:
It would be awesome to convert the car into a Nissan President
Seems like you are torn between performance and luxury. The most important thing in either case is to buy one with an known good service history and have it inspected by a senior Infiniti Technician. Then you know where to invest your next $3K - $6K in restoration efforts.

Few cars can keep up with a restored G50 on the highway.
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maxnix wrote:Seems like you are torn between performance and luxury. The most importatn thing in either case is to buy one with an known good service history and have it inspected by a senior Infiniti Technician. Then you know where to invest your next $3K - $6K in restoration efforts.

Few cars can keep up with a restored G50 on the highway.
Pretty much. At one point I was actually considering stripping the car down . I've read a lot about the VH45DE ever since it was used in a Z32 to win 12 hourss of Sebring and own in the GTS-1 class. I even considered dropping a VH45 into my 240sx. IN the end, I think I'd be really happy with a VIP G50 Q45 with a president conversion. I just love to mess with lame cars like V6 tiburons on my commute, so the performance and performance capability is an upside. I've seen a few in NY with less than 100kmi and one looks really nice. I just have to sell my Jeep ASAP now, while I'm still on vacation.

Anybody want a 5.9L Jeep Grand Cherokee, pretty rare

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Just rode in my in-laws new GX470 which swallowed 6 adults and a child pretty well. Quiet and well finished, it still seemed tippy in the corners and the solid rear axle was noticeable. Don't know why anyone would buy one unless they need to 4 wheel it 4 miles to the ranch house after they leave the highway.

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My jeep is pretty sharp, but not too refined. I did do some light off roading. I just don't really like the ride height, the truck like feel, or the handling anymore. I might buy a cheap-o Wrangler to do some winter off-roading. I'll just keep buying cars...

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I know exactly how you feel. It's fun messing with ricers and posers, helps pass the time on my 37 mile one way commute to work! It should be comforting to know you have a Z32 TT at home. When I drive my daily driver beater Toyota P/U and see someone driving like they are the coolest thing on the road I always think to myself "you're just fortunate I'm not in my Q!"...That makes me happy

Sorry, no official 1/4 mile times for me yet, still tuning. Won't likely be doing any dyno or 1/4 mile runs in the summer...was over 110* today, not so good for horsepower

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The first response suggesting you read posts by Riswicki (Maxnix mis-spelled it at first) is the best advice to help you understand what kind of car the Q45 can be if you're willing to put the time and money into it.

Reading those posts should give you some good information. Make sure you search both current and archived posts.

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qsiguy wrote:I know exactly how you feel. It's fun messing with ricers and posers, helps pass the time on my 37 mile one way commute to work! It should be comforting to know you have a Z32 TT at home. When I drive my daily driver beater Toyota P/U and see someone driving like they are the coolest thing on the road I always think to myself "you're just fortunate I'm not in my Q!"...That makes me happy

Sorry, no official 1/4 mile times for me yet, still tuning. Won't likely be doing any dyno or 1/4 mile runs in the summer...was over 110* today, not so good for horsepower
Pretty much. I've seen your write up about your rear mounted turbo on turbo-infiniti as well. Anyway, I'm getting sick of yelling at people (and in my head): "Oh Yeah, my other car is a TT Z32!!!" My jeep is awesome at stop lights (AWD) but mediocre at best froma roll and horrible from a high roll (anything above 60). I can't resist messing with ricers and douche bag speeders, but I don't want random people messing with me when I'm just cruising. I considered an NA Z32, but I think a Q45 would be my best bet. I like the luxury/VIP feeling anyway, it's been a while since I owned my STS and the only thing I hated about that car was it's reliability and FWD. I'm going to keep looking for a 90-95 Q45. Thanks everybody (most everybody).-Rob

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UGGH! Again, I apologize for our members who feel compelled to be tools.

Most people on the forum dont realize that cars can be created into something they werent originally made by NISSAN.

Anyway, Best thing you do to a Q is get an ECU and make sure that everything is working as it should. You'll never be short on power, and you'll hang with about anything with less than 450HP on the highway! You may not beat them, but you'll make them work!

After the ECU IMO best thing to do is do a high stall torque converter.. After that its probably custom headers.

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I don't have a clue how a higher stall spped would be a benefit in everyday driving.

I wonder why Dennis doesn't have on if the benefits are so obvious?


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