Full-race turbo kit

Post by **iNfamous240** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

I was talking to one of the representatives from www.full-race.com and they can make a custom turbo kit ( intercooler is included) for about $4500. And if my engine is built just right including the fuel system, he guarantees me over 600 whp. I trust them becuase they have a good reputation with honda's. But unfortuanatly they dont make anything for ka's. So what do you guys/ ladies think about this?

Post by **fiznat** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

itd better come with block work and internals if they're gonna claim 600 horses on it, jeez.

I say NO, simply because thats such an outrageous claim.

Post by **Nathan** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

I think full race is a little too used to 9000rpm motors that make 600hp and 190 ft. lb's of torque

I also dont think a stock block would come anywhere near holdling that together. If you got really lucky you'd just loose your headgasket. I really like the work that they do but I'm going to call :bsflag on this one unless they expect it to only be used on built to the hilt motors.

Post by **voddka** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

iNfamous240 wrote:And if my engine is built just right including the fuel system, he guarantees me over 600 whp.

Key word, ding ding ding. If it is built, then the kit would be capable of 600 whp, if its not the motor will blow, simple as that people.

Oh btw, full-race are cool people too. I know Javier, who is a welder/fabricator there and his brother Mario, who had a custom setup done by them. Real cool dudes. They're both on NissanForums, just FYI.

Checkered-Member · Post by **Checkered-Member** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

Nathan wrote:9000rpm motors that make 600hp and 190 ft. lb's of torque

good old Hondas:D

Post by **full-race geoff** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

We are not new to nissans. We make 600+ whp cars on a regular basis. If you dont realize that an engine needs to be built for that kind of power you shouldnt be working on cars.

We hold the record for the highest WHP stock sr20 in the nation fwiw, quite possibly international. 539 whp, stock motor on full-race products. We also have a number of built sr20s that will be making power soon, too.

We are no joke and our products will have no problem making real power if you can put your car together. If you cant that is out of our hands, but simple math dictates that if you have a compressor wheel that flows 75 lbs/air you will make over 600 whp. Thanks.

Website · Post by **daniel240** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

so you can sell a kit for the ka for 600 whp w/ stock internals that would be reliable? now that sounds like BS to me.

Post by **full-race geoff** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

what are you talking about?? Did you not read any of the posts before you? I will try to make this a little clearer:

BUILD THE MOTOR

If you dont build the motor, it will blow up.

Post by **Nathan** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

Geoff, I didn't mean for people to think I thought badly of your company, I merely misread the initial post. I'm glad ya'll recognize the need for a fully built motor as well and hope you make that clear to any of your customers in the future, a lot of people dont always realize what goes into a motor capable of that kind of thing. I'm aware of the secret services SR making 539whp, heck it probably could have made more if they hadn't run out of fuel. I look forward to seeing some KA products from you guys and I'm glad to see you around here

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

daniel240 wrote:so you can sell a kit for the ka for 600 whp w/ stock internals that would be reliable? now that sounds like BS to me.

please pay attention before posting.

for everyone else, full-race is one of the most reputable (and most infamous) companies out there, period. there's no BS coming from them. if you haven't dealt with or heard of them, then you're missing out.

-demetrius

Post by **aleph1** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

I think it should be rephrased to: The kit has the CAPABILITY to make 600hp on a fully built block.

Hmm for 4500, wed get one of your awesme manifolds as well?? Its a bit on the high side, but those manis are very nice. Any other details on the setup available at this time??

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

aleph1 wrote:I think it should be rephrased to: The kit has the CAPABILITY to make 600hp on a fully built block.

err...from the original post.Quote »And if my engine is built just right including the fuel system, he guarantees me over 600 whp.[/quote]-demetrius

Post by **aleph1** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

LOL I know, I read the whole thing. I was just REPHRASING it so it's easier to catch (for "challenged" people). =)

I just saw the pics of the SR20 manifold, OMG! Its the most beautiful thing ever, from the welds to the collector...*droool* Its literally perfect in everyway. Of course it better be for over 1G.

Post by **fiznat** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

hm yeah I didnt see that part either... weird that we ALL missed it. I would be all about full race manis if their prices werent up in the stratosphere. I'm not saying anything about the actual worth of those manis or anything - they look pretty sweet - but they're catering only to a very elite crowd of people who can afford those prices. Basically that cuts out 99.999999999% of NICO right there.

Post by **WDRacing** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

Just in case the rest of you are wondering, take an equal length mani, toss on a T88 and you now have a turbo kit that will support well over 600whp. The kit is the easy part...Anybody who can weld can build a manifold. The turbo has to flow enough to support large numbers...no tricks there.

For $4500, I'd hope it comes with more then the Manifold, Turbo and IC.

WD

Post by **fiznat** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

yeah thats what I was gonna say also... the hard part of 600 hp is maintaining it, not just making it.

good call WD, beat me to the punch.

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

i believe their kits come with everything except for fuel management.

-demetrius

Post by **fiznat** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

...and internals

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

how many companies do you know of sell engine internals as a standard part of their kit?

*listens to crickets chirp*

that's why i didn't mention it.

-demetrius

Post by **aleph1** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

Considering the parts they use in their kits as well as the manifold itself, I can see what makes the prices on the higher side. Did you see their honda turbo kits? Tial 40mm wastegate, tial 50mm BOV, PWR intercooler, aluminum piping... just as an example, compared to Nsports Turbonetics Deltagate and plastic Bosch BOV and generic intercooler (afaik).

Post by **fiznat** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

demcj wrote:*listens to crickets chirp*

that's why i didn't mention it.

No need to be like that man, it's certanly within the realm of possibility. I'm only trying to help clarify. Jeez.

Post by **aleph1** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

Dont talk back to the mod. :slap

JK. =) Stupid mods....lol, Actually, if the tuner guys would give discounts for things like assorted flowers I would be cool with that.

Post by **Jookmasta** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

if full race is still viewing the topic, 4500 for 600 horses is nice. my question is if you could make a turbo kit that will only do 300hp or 350hp and how much? i looked at ur website and 580hp was the lowest.............

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

fiznat wrote:No need to be like that man, it's certanly within the realm of possibility. I'm only trying to help clarify. Jeez.

sensitive aren't we? i wasn't trying to be mean.

maybe i ought to use smilies or something so people don't take me so seriously.

-demetrius

Post by **iNfamous240** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

Some of you guys disrespected geoff...that wanst cool. They're company is really good and i was just trying to let you guys know of what they are capable of. IMO 600whp for4500 is a really good price (it includes the turbo kit and the intercooler kit). I'll choose FULL-RACE for tubo kits anytime over greddy or any other company.

Post by **90lkn4swp** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

I thing full race can manufacture some well built manifolds and 4500 for a whole kit isnt a bad price but what about the fuel management if they included the emanage from greddy they would have one hell 9f a kit on there hands just addn my 2cents

Post by **fiznat** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

demcj wrote:sensitive aren't we? i wasn't trying to be mean.

haha nah I was just pissed off cause I was just at the begining of an all nighter of work, and I knew it. I'm still gonna find a turbo kit that includes pistons though - just to STICK IT TO YA. haha

Post by **deezlins** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

i would be very interested in a kit from full race, ive looked at their manifolds and stuff on their website, and they look awesome, and ive heard nothing but good things about them.

Post by **aleph1** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

supposedly OS Gikens yet-to-be-released (or whatever is going on with them) turbo kit includes internals =)

So does Nsport Stage3 and IAP Stage2. Not on the same playing field, but still, a kit with internals none the less.

BTW- Any word on the flowers?

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 am

aleph1 wrote:supposedly OS Gikens yet-to-be-released (or whatever is going on with them) turbo kit includes internals =)

So does Nsport Stage3 and IAP Stage2. Not on the same playing field, but still, a kit with internals none the less.

all these comapnies, along with every other company that sells turbo kits, offer engine internals as an optional upgrade. full-race included.

-demetrius

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