Four door sports car

[Goodbar6]

There all vehicles (inanimate objects) for which this much thought is not deserved.....Tyler

[Bubba1]

Exar. I see your point about a 360 Modena being a sports car a 550 Maranello being a GT. But I diasagree with you about Miata, Z3 and the TT. Power and downforce and who drives then are not the measurement of a sports car, it only categorizes them for comparison or establishing a race class

Miata: is the modern interpretation of the old british sports car. Think MG Midget, Austin Healy, Triumph Spitfire. None of them were blazing torque monsters, but all were definitely sports cars. You still see them on race tracks, check out SCCA.

Z-3: is BMW's version of the Miata. A little quicker, but more expensive and more homely (sorry, just my opinion)

TT: the 225hp TT Quattro is no chick car. You obviously have not been on the track in one. I have many times. Very competent track cars, though a little squirrely at their limit in the FWD versions. Very much a sports car, and it is not cheap.

Viper: Absolutely the crude American interpretation of a sports car. It's really more of a track car than a street car. You gotta drive one to understand that. I drove one at Lime Rock.. Trust me, it's a sports car. Drag racing a Viper is only using small part of the car's potential. That beast has great handling and brakes go with all that power. And by the way it's produced by a manufacturernot known for sports cars.

Vette: A much more civilized American interpretation than the Viper. Z06 is a disturbingly good. predictible handling track car. I've shared the track with many 'Vettes. No doubt - SPORTS CAR.

Gotta watch the "chick car" mentality. Using your criteria, the underpowered, nice looking 240sx would be a chick car too.240sx is a nice handling car, but it ain't a sports car, even with an oversize wing, fender flares, big exhaust.

[Bubba1]

Tyler, I disagree with you too, my friend. Isn't the discussion of inaminate objects (cars) the reason behind this bb? Regards.

[lateralmotion]

i still can't get over someone calling any porsche (besides the new cheyenne suv thing) not a sports car.

[mojo22]

i owned a third gen maxima, and i know why they call it a 4DSC.....i had an SE with all options, and i loved it. i enjoyed driving that car very much b/c of the ride, power, looks....well, just about everything. if you look at the competitor's cars of the day, you will understand what they meant. the little anemic honda accord did not stand up to the maxima by any standard.

it was not, and never will be anything like a BMW M5, but it was nice. the M5 is a four door sports car. the number of doors that a car has does not determine what the is or is not. insurance classification is one thing, but the genre the car fits is determined by what it is used for.

and there are plenty of cars out there with two doors and back seats that will knock your socks off.

[Goodbar6]

Quote »Tyler, I disagree with you too, my friend. Isn't the discussion of inaminate objects (cars) the reason behind this bb? Regards.[/quote] I agree. The thing i was talking about was everyone getting real involved to try and define something that is really quite vague (sports car). Of course, there are courses tought in college that are all about these types of questions (define "Good" "Bad" etc..) there called philosophy.

I was prolly haveing a bad day when i wrote that :-)Tyler

[JustinStrife]

My dad's owned 11 corvettes since 1969, and I know for a FACT he'd disagree with the comment that corvettes were not sports cars. And after driving half of them, I agree with him. As much as I love my little 240sx, in stock form it is humbled to the power of his V8 and 17" grip.

You hit the gas to the floor, and the back end cuts loose like a guy thrown into a room full of naked Playboy bunnies.

[EastCoast240]

Sports cars have 2 doors, manual transmission, and are rear wheel drive.

[NIGHTfall_240sx]

excuse me......Mitsu Evo VIII dont tell me thats not sport. Those b1tches are quick, so is the neon SRT4 but neon is lame, Evo VIII = sport ::end thread::

[89240sx]

wouldnt a sports car be determined a car that is designed for sport??

I'm sorry that excludes maximas and all four doors

[Megaseth]

My friend Joffe has a maxima with some minor work that ran a 13.7, and it was an auto, hes doing a 5spd swap, so we'll see what the time is when hes done.

[89240sx]

do you consider a cadillac with a 500 in it a sports car?? some are also fwd ... they can be fast as hell... and lincolns ... ?

[BadMojo]

Think MG Midget, Austin Healy, Triumph Spitfire. None of them were blazing torque monsters, but all were definitely sports cars. You still see them on race tracks, check out SCCA.

That's what I think of when I think "sports car", in its most traditional sense. I think that definition is somewhat archaic, but that's still what I think of.

As for the Audi TT...now I know why my GF seems so interested in them.

[slw240sx]

im getting a toyota cresida(sp?) rwd 4doors and im putting in a mark3 inline 6 turbo motor ! its goin to be my beater!

[sultan]

My friend Joffe has a maxima with some minor work that ran a 13.7, and it was an auto, hes doing a 5spd swap, so we'll see what the time is when hes done.

minor work? :rolleyes i wonder what thomas would run at the track, i bet he needs some safety equipment added to his car in order to run.

[Cyberkreig]

You can all keep debating what is and isnt a 'sport car'. Maybe next we can debate exactly what is ment by "sport"?

"well that depends on what your definition of IS is."

In the original spirit of the thread..

STANZAS RULE!

[krazy skwerel]

This thread is old. Older Maximas have a sticker on them that says 4 door sports car, as I've stated before. Yes stanzas do rule. I've said my piece. :batman

[Megaseth]

minor work? :rolleyes i wonder what thomas would run at the track, i bet he needs some safety equipment added to his car in order to run.

hehe. just some minor intake mods. and yes, thomas must be insane to drive that beast of a car without some kind of roll cage and harnesses.

[Repo Man]

Holy crap, what an aberration. The 4DSC thing was an early 90's Nissan marketing ploy to develop the sport sedan segment, which Nissan started successfully and everyone followed. They were trying to get the point across that the Maxima was a practical, 4 door car that had a very good level of performance, thus the 4DSC moniker. I don't really think they were trying to put it in the same class as the 300Z.

And Hitman...dammit...

[S1LV1A]

Hmm...My cousin had a Maxima that was faster than some sports cars and could even handle almost as good as them too. It was auto and it still hauled ***. He had the 5spd swap sitting in the garage, but the motor went (140K miles) so he parted everything out and bought a 240! hehe

[Megaseth]

Wow, thats very clean. where did he live, cause that car looks familiar. i think when i get older, im getting a nice SC'd max as a daily driver and my 240 as the weekend fun car.

[S1LV1A]

He lives in MD (DC metro area). It was a great car, but now he joined the 240 family!

[krazy skwerel]

Holy crap, what an aberration. The 4DSC thing was an early 90's Nissan marketing ploy to develop the sport sedan segment, which Nissan started successfully and everyone followed. They were trying to get the point across that the Maxima was a practical, 4 door car that had a very good level of performance, thus the 4DSC moniker. I don't really think they were trying to put it in the same class as the 300Z.

LOL! I realize it was a marketing ploy, but the fact remains it was called a "four door sports car" I just like to bring it up because I think its funny. I also thought it fit into this thread quite well both as amuzing and to kinda have a point. I think a four door car has as much right to be a sports car as anything else. So people call it a sport sedan. It's still a car and it's labeled as a sport version therefore literally is a "sports car".

[WingsNThangs]

Call it whatever you want. Nissan calls it one thing for the sake of marketing, another person may call it another.

For example, BMW introduced the X5 as a "Sports Activity Vehicle (SAV)", a unique innovation in its class blah blah blah, for the sake of a new term as part of its marketing ploy, so it wouldn't be associated with the average SUV (the SUV trend was booming). But in the end, the government, insurance companies, everyone and their mother calls it a friggin SUV.

My take on the Maxima: sports sedan, awesome car. As far as "sports car" goes, try to look at it as one term instead of deriving meaning by isolating "sports" and "car". Do I think the Maxima is a sports car? I have a solid opinion on that, but I dont feel like debating on such a trivial issue.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

LEXUS IS300 FOUR DOOR SPORTS CAR THAT JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE FWD.

[MrFox]

the IS is rear drive.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

I THOUGHT THEY WERE FWD? OHH WELL ANYWAY ITS A FD SPORTS CAR.

[WingsNThangs]

The only Lexus that is FWD is the ES.

[toki]

hahaha. what an idiot. OMG DID JOO HEAR THAT THA NEW BEE EMME DOUBLEYOU IS RHD AND MF?!