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steve s14
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i'm still missing parts so my ka-t probably won't be done soon but at least i'm starting on it. can't wait till it's finished so i can drive my car again!!













still a whole lot to do before it's done



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BlackHat
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I feel for you... i hate when I have to do something to my car that takes a while to do...

What's in the last picture, over the intercooler?

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that turbo is H-U-G-E

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Nick240sx wrote:that turbo is H-U-G-E
....is that a gt35?

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steve s14
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Craving4Boost wrote:
....is that a gt35?
yeah, it's a gt35
BlackHat wrote:What's in the last picture, over the intercooler?
in the 5th picture is the radiator, its dual pass meaning the tank on the left side in the picture is two seperate tanks, one being the inlet and one being the outlet, and the tank on the right side is one long tank causing the fluid in the radiator to flow through it twice before exiting.the last picture shows the intercooler core sitting on top of the radiator.

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Looking good.

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S13 240SX
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yo why are you monthing your intercooler like that????

and what kinda fuel filter is that?

turbo is butt wild huge and sexy!

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S13 240SX wrote:yo why are you monthing your intercooler like that????
Looks to be some sort of V-mount setup. A well done V-mount should work better than standard setups, since both radiator and intercooler are getting fresh air, as opposed to the radiator getting air that has already passed through the intercooler.

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BlackHat
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Very interesting.... I'd be curious to see how well it handles cooling. Don't know that I would attempt something like that, but at least it looks efficient...

Looks good!

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S13 240SX wrote:and what kinda fuel filter is that?
That looks like the radiator fill/expansion tank to me.

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steve s14
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dontbugme wrote:
That looks like the radiator fill/expansion tank to me.
you are correct. because of the position of the radiator, i needed a different way to fill it.
S13 240SX wrote:yo why are you monthing your intercooler like that????
since i live in california, i don't want anything to give away the fact that the car is turbocharged, cops look for that kind of stuff here. that's also the reason for the big turbo, that way the blowoff valve won't go off at low rpm shifts.ref tickets are expensive ( about 350.00 to pay it off and doubles the next time you get one ) and i can't afford to get one so i'm doing all that i can to try and prevent it.if i didn't live in california, i would just do a front mount because they are simple and efficient but v-mount is kind of stealthly.thanks for the comments guys and i'll put up more pictures of the progress.

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steve s14 wrote:you are correct. because of the position of the radiator, i needed a different way to fill it.

since i live in california, i don't want anything to give away the fact that the car is turbocharged, cops look for that kind of stuff here. that's also the reason for the big turbo, that way the blowoff valve won't go off at low rpm shifts.ref tickets are expensive ( about 350.00 to pay it off and doubles the next time you get one ) and i can't afford to get one so i'm doing all that i can to try and prevent it.if i didn't live in california, i would just do a front mount because they are simple and efficient but v-mount is kind of stealthly.thanks for the comments guys and i'll put up more pictures of the progress.
Wow, that sucks...I highly doubt any of the cops around where I live could tell an intercooler from a hole in the ground...I don't understand why the government gives a damn what you do to your own car with your own money on your own time, provided that the driver obeys local traffic laws and provided that it conforms to emissions testing...and it's very possible to pass a high HP KA-T through the emissions sniffer test (I've done it twice)

Another option, which would probably be a LOT easier and cheaper, although possibly not as efficient, and definitely not as bling, would be to use a large volvo/saab intercooler behind the radiator, the kind that's as big as a radiator...I have an '86 Volvo 740 turbo that uses this setup, and you'd be surprised how cool the charge air is before it enters the intake manifold, even after relatively "hard" summer-time driving... Just a thought.

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i got some more of it done in the past couple of days.

wastegate is in.



intercooler is half done.

bov is in.



still have a lot to do before it's done. more updates when i get further along. enjoy or critique, your opinions are always welcome!
Modified by steve s14 at 11:54 PM 5/9/2006

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u couldve still done a fmic setup but u could painted the intercooler black? IMO tho, i prefer how ur setup is right now. cuts back on the amount of piping and as said earlier, fresh air to everything. is that a tial bov? man you really are going for stealth as that bov is one of the quietest bov's out there. looking good man.

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That does look like good setup. Are you doing the welding yourself? Dam I wish I knew how to weld. I got a freind coming in a few weeks with his welder to help weld up my front brace while my engine is out. If you know how to weld you can save yourself a whole lotta of money. Looking forward to more pictures of your progress.

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Been awhile since i posted, but i'd like to know more about your rad setup! Did you just get a core and make the endtanks? So your running one hose from the pump to the resi tank, then another to the top of the left front end tank? Do you still have an over flow? This is a new concept to me and i think it'd work much better for my setup...anymore pics of the rad, during fabrication? Thanks...

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the V mount set-up is awesome its becoming a big thing w/ rx-7's now too. we are doing it to my bro's when we finish his motor w/ dual seq. turbos. A big plus is that when you have a short charge pipe you gain huge amounts of throttle response over your traditional s13/s14 front mount. Any reason for putting your BOV on the hot side? I know it is much more effective the closer it is to the throttle, I'm not flaming you out b/c you are doing nice work i am just wondering what made you chose your placement.

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i though about running a fmic but i guess i wanted to be extra safe but maybe i'm doing it the hard way jookmasta!
Redline240 wrote:Did you just get a core and make the endtanks? So your running one hose from the pump to the resi tank, then another to the top of the left front end tank? Do you still have an over flow?
sorry for the late response but here is a pictures of the radiator out of the car. if you look at the tank on the right, it's actually 2 tanks and the one on the left is one big one. the overflow is still going to be there and if you look at the surge tank, there is a nipple on there where it will be hooked up to.the surge tank is not plumbed in yet but when i do, i'll post pics and give a description of how it's plumbed in. i don't want to give any info on that yet because i don't know if the setup will work and therefore, not spread misinformation to my nico friends. but not to worry, i'll share that info if it works as i have it planned in my head
DammitBobby wrote:Are you doing the welding yourself? Dam I wish I knew how to weld.
yeah lol, i'm not the best welder but it's as good as i can do for now. i need more practice! you should learn how to weld, it's not that hard and don't let anyone convince you otherwise, it just takes practice. i would of learned how to weld a long time ago but someone told me it was difficult and therefore i didn't bother with it till later. i just don't want anyone learn later that it's not that big of deal like i did. if i didn't listen to that guy, i would have probably learned much earlier on and be a lot better now. it's just like riding a bicycle, it may seem difficult at first but with practice, you get better and better.
Iamjohnhayes wrote: Any reason for putting your BOV on the hot side? I know it is much more effective the closer it is to the throttle, I'm not flaming you out b/c you are doing nice work i am just wondering what made you chose your placement.
haha, no i really appreciate all of your comments and that's why i love to share my project with you guys. otherwise i wouldn't take the trouble of taking pictures and posting.the reason it's on the hot pipe is because there isn't any room for it on the cold pipe. it's hard to tell by looking at the pictures but since the battery and the fuse/relay box is there, i had to put it on the hot pipe side, oh well.my theory is that a street car is build with compromises and a race car is not. since this is a street car, i want the engine bay as stock as possible. that way, if i ever get a ref ticket, i can return it to stock with minimal effort.again, thanks everyone for your input and i'll post more as the project moves further along.

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steve s14
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i finished the intercooler and the oil feed line, here are some pics



i was talking to sunnys14 and he gave me some good advice!! thanks Trung!

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hot damn thats thing looks beautiful!is that hardline for the turbo oil feed?

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yea, um...HOTT

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babowc wrote:is that hardline for the turbo oil feed?
thanks, yeah, that's the oil feed. i plan on doing the coolant lines with -6 hardline as well.the oil feed is -4 and is tapped into the oil filter housing using a -4 an to 1/8 npt 90 degree elbow.

the factory oil filter housing already has a port there but is plugged. i just removed the plug and tapped it using a 1/8 npt tap since the original plug is 1/8 bsp (metric) and installed the fitting with some liquid thread sealant.

it also works on an s13 with a ka24de but there is an ear that comes off of the manifold bracket near the alternator that needs to be cut off for it to work.i'm not a fan of t- fittings so that's why i did it this way. it looks cleaner too.

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mighty clean setup you have there

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Mmmm, GT35 with T04S housing...very nice, 65lb/min turbo. I'm currently building a kit for an E36 M3 using that turbo...but that's not for this thread.

Good lookin' setup. I dig the V-mount for sure. Something other people haven't mentioned is the fact that your short IC plumbing is going to give amazing throttle response. You are going with a reverse cowl hood, I'm sure, so you'll get all the cooling you need.

Keep us updated as to your progress. I'd love to know what kind of numbers you lay down. What are your power goals and on what boost?


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1st time i've seen a V mount FMIC on a KA, lookig good

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do you have solid motor monuts because when the motor flex it will brake you intercooler mounts.

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steve s14
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i don't have solid mounts but i did take into account engine movement.the IC pipe from the turbo has 2 silicone couplers and can actually move a lot and it may not be that visible from the pictures but the one that goes to the throttlebody is pretty long and is quite flexible too because of it's length. hopefully it will be enough. i am planning on nismo mounts when i can afford it.

i just finished my increased capacity oilpan. it's now around 6qts.






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^nice job

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haha cool oil pan. Looks like a flathead shark to me but as long as it works good job

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haha, i felt like i was building a new helmet for darthvader when i was making it. i made one for a friend of mine before and it worked out so well that i decided to make another one for myself. it may not be nessesary but i figure it doesn't cost that much to make, just 18 gauge sheet metal and some time. the stock oil capacity is so tiny too, i don't thing nissan would have made the pan so small if the engine was turboed from the factory, i don't know that's just my opinion.


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