Factory manual and ka24e to ka24de swap

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92 hbody
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Hey all, I'm a little green, but did use the search to see if I could find a site or link to download a (preferably) factory service manual (but I would take a chiltonlook or equivalent) for my 1992 hardbody 4x4... I didn't see any postings on the subject, can anyone please point me in the right direction?

Also, I'm interested in what years/models/motors did the ka24de swap into a 1992title hardbody, and has anyone on here done it, and is there a tut for that?

I'm dropping another k/ae in my truck right now, but would like to think the next one will be a ka/de?

THANK YOU!!!


92 hbody
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Found the current info on swapping to the de motor... are there any differences in the 240sxright motor and the later model de motor made for the trucks? Ie: forged rods, pistons, cam, etc?

o0Syn
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This is the link to the FSMs we have for NICO members if that helps?
http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/

From what I have heard the trans does match up but that is just from poking around on forums. Might as well use the 240 trans though because there is no short throw shifters for us, you would have to mod the shifting location though. As for ECU and wiring that is kinda up to you from what i have read so far you need the main section of the DE harness.

Might wanna try chatin with this guy @ Cardomain if you can reach him http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3205579/1 ... cab/page-3

and check out these also

http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35526

https://www.google.com/search?q=KA24DE+swap+Hardbody

I'm not knowledgeable on the DE yet so I'm not sure what the differences are.

If your doing this for more power might as well look at swapping the VG30 non turbo motor in. That's what I am personally leaning towards if I get a new -96 shell someday. I don't have much info on it yet but I know its possible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOawpFMK ... re=related

92 hbody
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Thanks so much for the information I haven't checked it out yet, but that was definitely a bunch of files ;:).

As for my 92 hbody, its 4x4, and I'd like to be able to get high 20'sor for gas, while not having a complete slug of a rig... right now it's close to 20 bone stock, so just looking for easy money bolt ons for the ka24e, but doesn't look like there's much u can do, if anything, but once u step up to the de motor, there looks like a lot of options, but I've never tried to look at the motor u just mentioned, so... if u dig into it, and have success, please keep us updated!

But... with all that being said, I'd have to keep my transmission since it's the 4wd, unless there's a backdoor conversion for that too ;)?!?

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Oof yeah the 4wd is where your gas mileage is suffering pulling that extra weight. Have u done a basic tuneup yet? plugs wires cap rotor? Mine is in the higher 20s from what i can tell but it is the 96 2wd.

I suggest coasting in neutral more if you have a manual trans and live where its hilly like I do haha. Have not heard of anyone doing the swap to a 4wd. The increase in gas mileage from the DE would be marginal at best. These trucks are about as un-aerodynamic as it gets so getting over high 20 to low 30s for mileage with any motor is going to be rough. If you look into the fiberglass fenders and bumpers you may gain a tiny bit there cuz there is not much to gut on these to make em lighter besides deleting all the emissions equipment. I was considering having a local custom fiberglass company make me a full bed so rust is no longer an issue but considering I am without a job that's not happening anytime soon.

You may just want to look into a port/polish from a machine shop it will give u a little bit more power without sacrificing much gas. A lot of people with the older trucks do the 240sx intake and intake header swap so they can get the 240sx CAI's. how-to-hardbody-ka24e-240sx-intake-mani ... 16358.html

As for bolt ons to get the most out of a stock motor it is its like anything else, exhaust, intake, headers or all the above plus turbo if ur feelin brave and got the moneys but you likely wont be saving any gas going turbo cuz most guys go for bigger injectors as well.

92 hbody
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Yeah, the 4wd is a drag for sure, but I've got to have it living in Oregon.

As for the performance, I'll check out that 240spot, but I'm curious if anyone has any experience with adding the exhaust setup (ie headers, high floe cat, muffler, etc), and what's the best gear, and the crap to stay away from? I've heard that the pacesetter stuff is garbage, and Borla is the muffler to have, and that anything over 2-1/4" pipe loses low end torque, which I'm notsuper concerned with, but if I can get gains without sacrificing low end torque I'd like to... definitely wont find any turbos with this guy, just a little too much money, although it's advantages are obvious...

I don't need power, just looking to get around 30mpgs... without going turbo... and a partridge in a pear tree :rotfl

o0Syn
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Well if MPG is ur thing and u need 4wd might as well save ur cash and trade in the truck for a older Subaru Forester because a 4WD D21 will never get 30. Even the Subi's only get high 20s. My GF has an 01 Forester and its been real reliable.

As for exhausts headers I have heard any of the ones made for the older 240sx's with our KA24e will work. For header back most likely a custom one made by a shop with a mandrel bender and parts you pick out will be best and likely cost about the same or less then a premade.

How much snow do you guys get in Oregon? or why do you think you need 4wd? Couple winters ago we had over 100in of snow annual and up to 5ft a couple of times and I have never owned a 4wd car, never will either. 2wd and a good set of tires is all you need. I know a guy who Rally races an old 2wd Chevy s-10 every year at the Sno-drift rally in upper Michigan and he does damn well.

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carloslebaron
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I was so lucky, I found the shop manual book in a thrifty store, it was for the 1994 model. I made a call to Nissan to check if any changes were made for the 1995 model, and I was told that nope, that the same manual can be used for the 1995 Hardbody and Pathfinder, both, manual and automatic thansmission, 2WD and 4WD etc etc...

I must confess that this book was clean when I bought it, and that only aftter I have used it to change some parts in my truck, is when this manual shows black stains from my hands with old car grease on them... :frown:

92 hbody
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The 4wd isn't for the snow, the mud n wet grass.

Anybody pulled a ka24e out of a early 90's Hardbody? Do you have to take the differential off? My oil pan seems to be stuck on it, and I can't quite get the motor out... lil help please!?

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Have not done it but I know you need to take the dif off. Welcome to the joys of 4wd.

You must live out in the boons then, I don't find myself in mud or grass, but yeah off-road is not my thing.

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I have a 93 4x4 KA with trans and transfer attached sitting in my garage. I recently purchased it from a friend who bought it off CL. No need to remove the pan in any way to remove the engine. There is a baffle that may be getting hung up on you.

Everyone bustin' on 4wd...I get 23mpg on the highway with my VG powered Frontier. Mileage can be low but the trade off is you can go places most others can't.

92 hbody
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Yeah Rev, I'm guessing the issue isn't taking off the oil pan, it's removing engine, transmission, transfer altogether. This 2and ton paperweight in my driveway is driving me insane, think I'll just start to pull the whole marryann and see where I wind up... I also am now thinking I'm gonna have another hurdle once I get the first one out, is that I'm trying to replace it with a 2wfd motor... I'm wondering if the 4wd oil pan will fit on the 2wd motor?.... what'd I get myself into:/


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