Experienced slammed people

[ChampaignSilviaS14]

So I have been riding in my car, slammed with my rear wheels cambered the hell out for close to 3 months.

I rolled my front fenders fine and dandy, but it looks like my car has had body work on the rear right quarter panel and has been replaced. There are these freaking GIANT spot welds on the lip and no fender roller has been able to take them in.

Has anyone ever dealt with this, this years opening drift event is friday and I am willing to try anyones method's even if it takes a hammer. I NEED to have them rolled so Im can crank the camber back to normal so im not riding on just the tiny inner spot of my tires.

(I know this belongs in wheel/tires but we get more traffic here, so don't move it please!)

[fourLUG_hero]

Grind the welds down?

[ViolentRunning13]

Cut them out and get over fenders.

[BrianHarte]

get a big hammer.

The big hammer is how I roll my fenders.

[ChampaignSilviaS14]

Cut them out and get over fenders.

Thinking i may have to do this.

Grind the welds down?

well since the weld penetrates all the way through I dont know if it would help but that's what im going to try tomorrow.

Its like 6 giant balls of clusterf***ness on the lip of my rear fender. It sucks d!ck.

[ChampaignSilviaS14]

get a big hammer.

The big hammer is how I roll my fenders.

Yea on second thought im going to use brian's method and go ape s*** on that b****. I got a vertex kit on the way so if i f*** it up ill just get overfenders.

[ChampaignSilviaS14]

Yep so I tried everything.. Sledgehammer, regular hammer, grinder, roller, baseball bat, and nothing works, i can roll around all the knots but the knots wont roll in, and grinding wont do s***. Looks like i am f***ed.

Heres some pics of what im talking about.



this is how it goes all the way up the lip.

and heres the left quarterpanel which was easy to roll


Modified by ChampaignSilviaS14 at 12:39 PM 5/7/2009

[Matej]

Have you tried heating it up before doing anything with it?

Also, isn't your car a stock KA? Drifting a stock KA is much easier and more fun with lots of camber.

[ChampaignSilviaS14]

Yep its a KA, I was thinking that too but I thought it might eat my tires extra fast. I only have these and 4 steelies for tomorrow.

Are you gunna be out there?

[Matej]

If I put my car together, haha.

But definitely use a heat gun, or at least a blow dryer.

[ViolentRunning13]

15s last forever on KA. I did a two day event on one pair of steelies before. Just looks stupid.

[ChampaignSilviaS14]

Yea hahaha, it looks really stupid when you have 9 wide on the front.

I just like drifting on real tires a lot more than steelies.

I tried to use a heat gun but it really didn't do s***. I think ill just leave them cambered out.

The car was obviously taken to a really s***ty body shop sometime in its life.

anyways hope to see you out there matej, we need some real cars out there... not trucks.
Modified by ChampaignSilviaS14 at 1:11 PM 5/7/2009

[j-z]

when rolling, the heat gun is solely only for the purpose of not cracking the paint, not to heat the metal up to make it easier to bend. if thats the case you need a torch, or stop swingin like a pus$y.

[ThuG LyFe]

the pics were pretty unclear for me but from my experience with s14, the right rear is at least 5x harder to bend than the left. you're gonna need a lot of force with a big mallet (not hammer) and heat gun to bend it in. so it's just like that for some reason, the right fender is a lot stronger for some reason.

[Matej]

when rolling, the heat gun is solely only for the purpose of not cracking the paint, not to heat the metal up to make it easier to bend. if thats the case you need a torch, or stop swingin like a pus$y.

It is to help the metal expand so you don't get random buckling and dents in the quarter panel. And it does also make it noticeably easier to roll/pull.

For example, on S13's, almost everyone who doesn't use heat when pulling their fenders gets the dent below the rear window.
Modified by Matej at 6:51 PM 5/7/2009

[Kalypso]

^ I thought that was from tire rub and the wheel and tire pressing against the fender.

[Matej]

^ I thought that was from tire rub and the wheel and tire pressing against the fender.

No. That is how the fenders are, it is a structural pressure spot that is very prone to denting in from the stress of pulling the fenders, unless heat is applied.

[SleepyHB]

If you're using the hammer make sure you don't hit it too hard. It can make the fenders has dents from the inside.

[lonely_coupe]

i'm not getting what's hard about rolling these? they look like normal spotwelds, so they are very thick?? you can try drilling them out, to try to weaken the rest of the metal, since it seems that's what making them so strong. if not, try hammering and baseball batting, heat gun, etc....

and if all else fails... cut, smooth, widefender time. hahah.

[S13Joe]

You really couldn't grind those down? It doesn't seem too bad to grind down. Sorry if I seem like a d!ck, I can barely see due to s***ty monitor syndrome.

[ChampaignSilviaS14]

i'm not getting what's hard about rolling these? they look like normal spotwelds, so they are very thick?? you can try drilling them out, to try to weaken the rest of the metal, since it seems that's what making them so strong. if not, try hammering and baseball batting, heat gun, etc....

and if all else fails... cut, smooth, widefender time. hahah.

The quarterpanel has definitely been replaced. My dad owns a body shop, so we are going to have to do body work on it. The spot welds are super thick like knots in wood and will not roll (trust me), I believe there is no physical way to roll the lip on it with the knots there. They will have to be drilled out, but we are replacing the quarter panel because the body shop that did this obviously did a s***ty job, the trunk leaks and doesn't line up right. My dad's shop has a really expensive pro spot welder that pretty much replicates factory welds.

[SleepyHB]

Every time I see Seattle I thought about LA center lol, I used to go there and chill at the casino for days, let me guess, raining as always there isn't it?

[IanS]

get a big hammer.

The big hammer is how I roll my fenders.

No doubt.

I think Paul said it best.

What hammer, all I see is a Poundometer, it's a percision adjustment tool.

[240lookis]

raining today. warm rain though

from those pics, i cant tell what's going on, but i agree with using a heat gun and a big a** hammer.

[Steve Lloyd]

the pics were pretty unclear for me but from my experience with s14, the right rear is at least 5x harder to bend than the left. you're gonna need a lot of force with a big mallet (not hammer) and heat gun to bend it in. so it's just like that for some reason, the right fender is a lot stronger for some reason.

The right side is more difficult because of the extra metal reinforcement due to the fuel door. I wouldn't say it's 5x harder though, my right side went faster than my left side...........

[r34 gtr]

Excuse me, are you a sissy little girl? You are obviously not putting enough effort into it. I rolled my fenders with a 20lb sledge. I suggest you do the same.

[tramp_drift240]

i rolled my fenders with a baseball bat, steel pipe, jack handle, 3lb and 16oz hammers.

you just gotta work with it mang.

[kouki slydwyz]

start with an inch pipe, roll by hand, then the more roll u want go bigger pipe, i went with a 3 inch pipe, and held it in place while my buddy drove my car back and forward slowly till i got the nice roll, holding the pipe toward the center of your wheels if you know what i mean. then use a rounded end hammer and perfect it. took me 25 mins to do both. p.s. if you dont wanna crack your paint, use a heat gun first. it'll let the paint stretch alittle for yea