Experience level when confronted

[574-240sx]

How old you are and how long you have been drifting doesn't directly determine your drifting experience level. It comes into play a little such as a seasoned driver would might have more car control as a noob. Aftermarket parts do help and put them on when you are ready too. Grated its alot harder to drift stock suspension, body roll and the whole nine yards against a decently prepped car. But if the person who has been drifting stock and pushes it to the limit would be much better than a person who has a modded car that tries to drift, such as throwing the tail out for a split second at 10mph. A person who has been drifting for say 2 year can be beter than someone who has been drifting 5 years. I just get pissed off when somebody says I have been drifting longer. Are they trying to imply they are better because they have been around longer. There are also many different type of drifting and styles.

I few weeks ago I was told by an seasoned autocross driver drifting takes no talent. I said many people are talented at other things. I have autocrossed twice this year for our region and placed 2nd in the most competitive class. I ran crap Kumho 711 tires and no engine mods and minor suspension. I said I respected autocross but it was boring. I told hit that it takes alot of talent and there might be a bigger margin of error than autocross. As soon as I said that I had a un-named Tire Rack salesman telling me that drifting sucks and everyone who does it is retard(exact words from a 40year old salesman). I was also told thats why Tire Rack no longer supports drifting. So Tire Rack doesn't support drifting because they think it requires less talent than another motorsport. Then I asked about 1/4 mile racing and they said that requires more skill than drifting. I asked how much more and no answer.

I have had too many noobs tell me that, I'm not that good. Sorry I guess you are better at pulling the ebrake in your civic and doing 180s. Then I get the whole "my friend has a camaro and would whoop everybody." Well sorry I didn't light the world of fire. I managed to put together a turbo kit for 2K and don't even have $500 in suspension. I spend my money wisely and get good deals and do my own work and repair my broke crap. I teach myself and don't care what anyone thinks. If somebody ask how good I am I say I'm still learning and I do ok for my skill level. I still have my pride.

Ok I'm done bitching now

[BuudWeizErr]

thats cute.guess i won't be buying from TR anytime soon.

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[574-240sx]

thats cute.guess i won't be buying from TR anytime soon.

[email protected] email them and let them know what you think of their comments.

I really should I live within 10 miles of tire rack and work 1/4 mile down the road from them. I may have to do down in person after work one day. I bet they wouldn't even talk to me. Thats why I still refuse to buy from them after this and I needed winter tires too. Well they won't get my business anymore.

[sixxdeuce]

haha, thats funny. Id like to see either of those clowns sustain a high speed drift. And you should ask the tire track guy if 1/4 mile takes more skill then why isnt that honda drag racer a superstar yet, steph papa-something.

[BuudWeizErr]

haha, thats funny. Id like to see either of those clowns sustain a high speed drift. And you should ask the tire track guy if 1/4 mile takes more skill then why isnt that honda drag racer a superstar yet, steph papa-something.

papadakis?

thats because he jumped on the drifting bandwagon

haha

heres the result taken seconds apart:

[BuudWeizErr]

meh

[BuudWeizErr]

don't believe me? Look into who AEM is sponsoring to drift.

All in all though, I respect Steph a ton more than that assbasket Chris Rado. The guy who swears he could outdrift any of the professionals. At least Steph started at the bottom and is working his way up. The problem is that he started with a car that was already ready to go instead of starting with a stock shell.

[574-240sx]

papadakis?

thats because he jumped on the drifting bandwagon

haha

heres the result taken seconds apart:

Thats halarious. Thats almost funnier than the people that can't drive yet they are sponsored.

[MainEvent212]

he should stick to drag racing

[PGBrian]

Steph is a cool guy though. i talked to him for a little while about him crashing and such.he loves it (drifting0 and is going to keep doing it. and the mani point, he does it for fun.

[sixxdeuce]

yeah, im not talking trash about him at all, just using it as an example to show these guys ish about drifting have no idea. I hear that steph bought the 240 himself and that it doesnt get near the amount of sponsorship help that his drag cars do.

[MainEvent212]

ah, i shouldnt rip on him. He's probably better then me, and that's AWESOME that he's doing it for fun. Seeing racers cross over sports is always cool, and definately respectable (he's willing to try it and like it even though drag/drift are mortal opposites)

[BuudWeizErr]

Thats halarious. Thats almost funnier than the people that can't drive yet they are sponsored.

cough verena mei cough

[PalmerWMD]

Drifitng obviosuly requires a LOT of skill.

For the first time in my life I saw drifiting on a prepared course with highly prepped cars+Drivers at this years Nopi.

It took my breath away!

One day I would like to learn it...

Fred..

PS: I buy from tirerack and will continue to do so, just because one guy made a stupid comment isnt gonna stop me.

[accel junky]

This is true with many things. Unfortunately, experience is what matters to the people that call the shots.

[azncorruptedo17]

cough verena mei cough

ouch... thats not cool at least she wasnt a dragster turned drifter

[Dirtylou]

I don't know how people can say that drifting doesn't require any kind of skill. To me, just watching drifting on TV makes me think 'Man, I really suck right now'. I can get on a 1/4 track and rip off a 16 second pass and not spin out or eat the guardrail. I got nuff props due to some one who can control a car in a drift.

[D1SR240]

574-240sx- I seen you drifting at the RSR drift festival and I thought you were really good. I'm wish i was close to being as good as you. What place did you end up coming in?

At the RSR drift festival was also the first time i saw profesional drifting, and like Fred said, it truley is amazing when you see it first hand. I thought it was amazing how Manabu Orido just slid around that huge turn, and as he was sliding he had sunglasses on and looked like he was out on a sunday cruise

[574-240sx]

574-240sx- I seen you drifting at the RSR drift festival and I thought you were really good. I'm wish i was close to being as good as you. What place did you end up coming in?

At the RSR drift festival was also the first time i saw profesional drifting, and like Fred said, it truley is amazing when you see it first hand. I thought it was amazing how Manabu Orido just slid around that huge turn, and as he was sliding he had sunglasses on and looked like he was out on a sunday cruise

I got shafted third round because I didn't have cool jdm parts and a non JDM tight motor. During inspection a few of the japanese guy took a look at my KA-T setup a few thought it was pretty cool and there was a few that looked at the motor in disgust. I guess it wasn't jdm tightness. I guess the more you spend the more you win came into play there. I guess it happens and won't let that get me down.

[D1SR240]

I got shafted third round because I didn't have cool jdm parts and a non JDM tight motor. During inspection a few of the japanese guy took a look at my KA-T setup a few thought it was pretty cool and there was a few that looked at the motor in disgust. I guess it wasn't jdm tightness. I guess the more you spend the more you win came into play there. I guess it happens and won't let that get me down.

That sucks man, i hope you still had fun. Do you know if RSR is going to have this next year?

[Grip Gambler]

rsr was supposed to be a one time deal.

[574-240sx]

That sucks man, i hope you still had fun. Do you know if RSR is going to have this next year?

RSR was a blast I never had so much fun in my life. Hopefully we have something like that again in the future.

[bcuz]

hah, the best was when my brother (hes been into hondas since forever) and I where talking about drifting, and he said something about drifting a corner and I just looked at him in utter disbelief, this if my older brother that I look up to that has taught me most of what I know about cars and knows far more then me, saying he drifted his fwd civic hatch. I continued to explain to him that its not possible to drift a fwd car as it is impossible to get the car to oversteer. He went on to scold me and in a very condecending way tell me that I knew nothing about cars or drifting.

I just gave up, since then he has learned, he isnt into hondas anymore and he got a GS400, that thing is so much fun in an open parking lot full of snow (or on a rainy day).

Most people are just ignorant and dont understand the many aspects of things that they think take no skill.

[MainEvent212]

actually...you CAN drift a FWD car cuz it IS possible to make it oversteer

just not a power induced oversteer...it takes a very high entry speed and proper steering and braking...it's just not as pretty and fun as drifting a RWD...it's more of a rally style slide

[llamabeta]

...more of a rally style slide

Keyword being slide not drift.

[Slappy]

How old you are and how long you have been drifting doesn't directly determine your drifting experience level. It comes into play a little such as a seasoned driver would might have more car control as a noob. Aftermarket parts do help and put them on when you are ready too. Grated its alot harder to drift stock suspension, body roll and the whole nine yards against a decently prepped car. But if the person who has been drifting stock and pushes it to the limit would be much better than a person who has a modded car that tries to drift, such as throwing the tail out for a split second at 10mph. A person who has been drifting for say 2 year can be beter than someone who has been drifting 5 years. I just get pissed off when somebody says I have been drifting longer. Are they trying to imply they are better because they have been around longer. There are also many different type of drifting and styles.

I few weeks ago I was told by an seasoned autocross driver drifting takes no talent. I said many people are talented at other things. I have autocrossed twice this year for our region and placed 2nd in the most competitive class. I ran crap Kumho 711 tires and no engine mods and minor suspension. I said I respected autocross but it was boring. I told hit that it takes alot of talent and there might be a bigger margin of error than autocross. As soon as I said that I had a un-named Tire Rack salesman telling me that drifting sucks and everyone who does it is retard(exact words from a 40year old salesman). I was also told thats why Tire Rack no longer supports drifting. So Tire Rack doesn't support drifting because they think it requires less talent than another motorsport. Then I asked about 1/4 mile racing and they said that requires more skill than drifting. I asked how much more and no answer.

I have had too many noobs tell me that, I'm not that good. Sorry I guess you are better at pulling the ebrake in your civic and doing 180s. Then I get the whole "my friend has a camaro and would whoop everybody." Well sorry I didn't light the world of fire. I managed to put together a turbo kit for 2K and don't even have $500 in suspension. I spend my money wisely and get good deals and do my own work and repair my broke crap. I teach myself and don't care what anyone thinks. If somebody ask how good I am I say I'm still learning and I do ok for my skill level. I still have my pride.

Ok I'm done bitching now

its not about, age, race or any of that B.S.. it's about seat time and practice and the desire you have to do so.

[gogg]

So Tire Rack doesn't support drifting because they think it requires less talent than another motorsport.

And this is the company as a whole? How did you deduct this?

that assbasket Chris Rado

Please, do not even mention that name.

[574-240sx]

And this is the company as a whole? How did you deduct this?

After the 2nd Chicago ClubFR driftday we were no longer welcome back. There was lots of excusses given too us why but nothing solid. Even though most of us bough a set or more tire that day. The comments from the tire rack employee came later after the fact. Pretty much he was a AutoXer that hates ever aspect of drifting. It happens and that why we have to take it to the streets/industrial parks/parking lots now. I loved Tire Racks small track and would go back if we were invited again.

[stretch240sx]

thats just dumb. every thing takes skill. just drifting takes a different skill than drag or autox. i know im not good at drag...

ill give drag gys credit. its hard trying to keep a car in a straight like at 200 plus mph.

[SoCalS14]

At first I was little unsure of how "skilled" a drifter had to be...Then I went to GT Live and saw the Japanese pros live...whoa...

I have never seen anyone drift a car that fast before...in person it was quite amazing...I have total respect...especially for the guys drifting the four door skyline and soarer...those are heavy *** cars...

Mad props to the Up Garage 86...sick drifts, angle was ridiculous...