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waxdnuggz
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10psitx wrote:op, you really have a lot to learn, as one poster said there are many late model domestic vehicles that have oem aluminium drive shafts. The issue you will run into is mating the OEM 240sx transmission and diff yoke to the Aluminium drive shaft, there is a size difference between the two. A U-joint that will fit the aluminium drive shaft will be twice the size of the 240 yoke thus rendering it non compatible from that point of view. I may me wrong.... but i'm yet to see a U- joint with two different sizes for the caps. Usually when you "custom build" a drive shaft for swapped cars you generally use the same material...eg- all steel or all aluminium so both the yoke and the drive shaft tube can be "welded" together.

what you failed to account for is the 1 peice aluminium drive shaft that is sold for the 240 uses the same size U-joint as stock, they are made by Spicer, so they fit the steel yoke and allow it to connect to the aluminium tube.

What your machine shop will need to do is get a damaged aluminium 1 peice 240 drive shaft cut off the part that recieves the U-joint, fabricate a taper to account for the size difference and weld it to the "ranger" driveshaft, then get a spicer brand u-joint and install it between the steel 240 yoke/s and the modified aluminium drive shaft.

Just so you know ....i used a 2003 chevy suburban 1 peice aluminum Drive shaft and a damaged 240 aluminium 1 peice drive shaft to build mine...its was quite expensive and alot bigger that the stock one, but it can be done....just not worth the effort or cost.

There's such things as different size ujoint are you serious go on npd.com they sell ujoints on there that mate a 1970 mustang drveshaft to a 1993 t5 yoke which is not the same size there are plenty of conversion ujoints available


waxdnuggz
Posts: 260
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:51 pm
Car: 90 240sx hatch SOLD
91 240sx hatch SOLD
92 super sweet daily (freezing cold a.c., working ps and pw)
93 240sx hatch SOLD
94 240sx vert SOLD
Location: orlando florida
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[/quote] PS - can we see pix of some of the work you've done? I feel it would benefit us greatly, to learn by example.[/quote]


So you can read directions off the internet on how to swap an rb its ben covered more times then pam andersons face.

There's some of my work with just pictures off my phone from the last couple months your turn and I have 50+ more

waxdnuggz
Posts: 260
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:51 pm
Car: 90 240sx hatch SOLD
91 240sx hatch SOLD
92 super sweet daily (freezing cold a.c., working ps and pw)
93 240sx hatch SOLD
94 240sx vert SOLD
Location: orlando florida
Contact:

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10psitx wrote:op, you really have a lot to learn, as one poster said there are many late model domestic vehicles that have oem aluminium drive shafts. The issue you will run into is mating the OEM 240sx transmission and diff yoke to the Aluminium drive shaft, there is a size difference between the two. A U-joint that will fit the aluminium drive shaft will be twice the size of the 240 yoke thus rendering it non compatible from that point of view. I may me wrong.... but i'm yet to see a U- joint with two different sizes for the caps. Usually when you "custom build" a drive shaft for swapped cars you generally use the same material...eg- all steel or all aluminium so both the yoke and the drive shaft tube can be "welded" together.

what you failed to account for is the 1 peice aluminium drive shaft that is sold for the 240 uses the same size U-joint as stock, they are made by Spicer, so they fit the steel yoke and allow it to connect to the aluminium tube.

What your machine shop will need to do is get a damaged aluminium 1 peice 240 drive shaft cut off the part that recieves the U-joint, fabricate a taper to account for the size difference and weld it to the "ranger" driveshaft, then get a spicer brand u-joint and install it between the steel 240 yoke/s and the modified aluminium drive shaft.

Just so you know ....i used a 2003 chevy suburban 1 peice aluminum Drive shaft and a damaged 240 aluminium 1 peice drive shaft to build mine...its was quite expensive and alot bigger that the stock one, but it can be done....just not worth the effort or cost.

I may have a lot to learn but I know how to google image search
Looks like differnt size caps to me...?

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daemonyk
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waxdnuggz wrote:
PS - can we see pix of some of the work you've done? I feel it would benefit us greatly, to learn by example.[/quote]


So you can read directions off the internet on how to swap an rb its ben covered more times then pam andersons face.

There's some of my work with just pictures off my phone from the last couple months your turn and I have 50+ more[/quote]

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Your continuous condecension and narcissistic pontification evokes my defiant proclivties, thus I am compelled to indulge my sadistic temperment, and my flippant nature.

:spitout: Swapping an RB has been documented, therefore it's easy? :bowrofl: Rebuilding a V8 has been documented since before the days of Linda Lovelace, so I guess that means even Pamela could build your half-an-engine at least as well as you can with a little bit of reading. And I believe that between Sikky and WiringSpecialities and ChaseBays, and all of the documentation there is on LS swaps these days, dumping an LS into a 240 is no more tricky than an RB or 1J. So anyone can do it, right? Or, is it that despite documentation and aftermarket support, automotive skill knowledge and aptitude are still necessary to perform such tasks?

Wow, swapping an engine is as easy as reading some directions. I didn't know that. Shame on me for learning before doing. Because if you read things first, the tools come to life like in Fantasia and magically do all the work for you and the engine just floats out on its own as the new one hovers into place and pixies serve you tea while you just sit there. Everything torques itself down and all the connectors snake together, and it starts right up as if by magic.

It was actually kinda incredible. I had the RB sitting next to my car, and I was reading about RB swaps, and I heard a loud crash, and when I looked up, the KA was on the ground next to the car, and the RB was sitting all comfy under the hood. It's crazy. I dont even know anything about cars :gotme

Oh! I forgot! I also have torque wrenches! A 1/2" drive in ft/lbs AND a 3/8 drive in in/lbs! Is that enough to level up? What about a DMM? That's a tool, right? Or is it equipment...

Wowie zowie! Ring compressor, plastigauge, feeler gauge, drill press, I don't think I could ever figure out how to operate those enigmatic devices! Well, except for the fact that I've used them before. There is, after all, a difference between owning a tool, and being proficient with a tool. But you didn't mention a magnet on a telescoping rod. I don't think I can take you seriously as a tech if you don't have a magnet on a telescoping rod...

The irony is that, you're saying that since someone else figured the logistics of my swap for me that my work doesn't count, on a thread you created trying to show off how you helped solve the logistics of a swap for other people. So, logically, if someone reads your thread and uses this idea, shame on them for following someone elses beaten path?

"I know too much about cars" - said no gearhead ever. We all stand on the shoulders of giants.

I do have a build thread on here, if you actually care. It already has 50+ pictures :rolleyes: . Not that you care about such things as the number of pictures or tools a person has :chuckle: I'm sure a clever guy like you can find it if you really want to. It's kinda disappointing though. I'm just putting a car together, not actually building one :tisk: .

Post up moar pix! We love pix here :dblthumb: Photobucket ain't rocket surgery. Surely not a challenge for the Tool King. :woot: He can use a drill press!!! :woot:

Wait... Is a computer a tool, or equipment? I'm so confused... :crazy:

waxdnuggz
Posts: 260
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:51 pm
Car: 90 240sx hatch SOLD
91 240sx hatch SOLD
92 super sweet daily (freezing cold a.c., working ps and pw)
93 240sx hatch SOLD
94 240sx vert SOLD
Location: orlando florida
Contact:

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Gotta love how this thread turned out. Started as me trying to share knowledge I recently discovered to help someone out and in turn got bashed for my jumble of words from sheer excitment. I'm sorry if I offended any of you who are actually building a car when I critisized with the tool comment I was simply trying to say if your the person that the most difficult job you've done on your car is install a cold air pipe then you have absolutly no business critisizing my post about the drive shaft. Everyone loves a little s*** talking but this is begining to no longer be s*** talking between buds. So again ill be the first to say I'm sorry I hope we can all build cars and enjoy the common interest that we are members of the website for.

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Alright. I let this one stumble on long enough.


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