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Angel Yulee Adams and her twelve children were thrown out into the street because she didn't pay her rent. Several government agencies and charity groups found her a house, paid her first month's rent and found furnishings for it. For this, you would think she would be grateful, show some appreciation. Well, guess what? She isn't! She wants everyone to leave her alone and quit messing in her business, but yet she wants the handouts. (The man who is father to ten of the kids is in prison on cocaine charges). My question is this: when do we draw the line and say enough is enough? When do we say, NO, we are not funding your lifestyle anymore? :mad:

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These are the people that need the most help. You could say, take everything back and show her what its like to have nothing... but she came from that and is STILL not grateful. What this lady needs is God in her life, as well as her kids. Materialistic things can benefit people, only so much. What she needs, as do we all... is the Jesus. Amen. ; )

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I'm more worried about the kids than their blind mother. she doesn't even realize that she's basically raising her kids to take one of two paths when they are adults. one path will be the "i don't ever want my kids to go through what i went through and i'm not so fond of my mother anymore" path. the second path will be the "momma was an ungrateful deadbeat, so i guess it ain't a problem if i am too" path. if only we lived in a world where having children was a privilege dictated by proper authority and not a right.

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CA18Magic wrote:These are the people that need the most help. You could say, take everything back and show her what its like to have nothing... but she came from that and is STILL not grateful. What this lady needs is God in her life, as well as her kids. Materialistic things can benefit people, only so much. What she needs, as do we all... is the Jesus. Amen. ; )
Yes! God will fix magically fix all of this!

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Can't they just deem her an unfit mother and take her kids away? I mean, if she can't keep a roof over their heads, isn't that enough to call CPS?

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93coupe wrote:
CA18Magic wrote:These are the people that need the most help. You could say, take everything back and show her what its like to have nothing... but she came from that and is STILL not grateful. What this lady needs is God in her life, as well as her kids. Materialistic things can benefit people, only so much. What she needs, as do we all... is the Jesus. Amen. ; )
Yes! God will fix magically fix all of this!
Close your eyes and say 'Hocus Pocus'!

I think this lady should be left alone after have she has her children taken away and given to families that can take care of them.

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krimsonviper wrote:Can't they just deem her an unfit mother and take her kids away? I mean, if she can't keep a roof over their heads, isn't that enough to call CPS?
While that is the best solution, i suppose the government agencies and CPS don't care that much. Also, the fact that no relatives has stepped up to adopt/take custody of any of the kids, basically says they don't care either. So the next best thing would be to find foster homes or adoptions for 12 kids.

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dre1507 wrote:[

While that is the best solution, i suppose the government agencies and CPS don't care that much. Also, the fact that no relatives has stepped up to adopt/take custody of any of the kids, basically says they don't care either. So the next best thing would be to find foster homes or adoptions for 12 kids.
Possibly she doesn't have relatives to step in and save these children; or if she does have relatives, they may be in worse shape than she is and are able to recognize the fact that they wouldn't be fit to raise the kids.

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93coupe wrote:
dre1507 wrote:[

While that is the best solution, i suppose the government agencies and CPS don't care that much. Also, the fact that no relatives has stepped up to adopt/take custody of any of the kids, basically says they don't care either. So the next best thing would be to find foster homes or adoptions for 12 kids.
Possibly she doesn't have relatives to step in and save these children; or if she does have relatives, they may be in worse shape than she is and are able to recognize the fact that they wouldn't be fit to raise the kids.
True. But still, the number of children is what makes this a dire situation. some are able to fend for themselves somewhat, but there are some that are 100% dependent on the mother and they're the ones who should take priority in this matter. I so wish i could take a few of those children and show them what it's like to have a real parent.
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I think to say any one child is more of a priority than the other is wrong. ALL of the children need a fit parent and safe home.

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93coupe wrote:I think to say any one child is more of a priority than the other is wrong. ALL of the children need a fit parent and safe home.
Yea i didn't mean it in that sense. I mean with all the sickos around lately it's not so easy to find homes for the younger ones. The older ones could probably deal with a very nice foster parent(s), but the younger ones would probably need a more stable situation such as adoption.

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The ideal solution would be for this woman to show some gratitude for the help she has received, stop complaining about what's wrong with her life, and take steps to fix it. Somewhere down the road, she has learned that for every baby you make, the government will give you "X" amount of dollars to help raise them. The kids are the ones who are really losing in the scenario. Seriously, who is gonna take in 12 adolescent children? It's HIGHLY unlikely that one individual will undertake such a task. So the children will be split up, which presents a whole other multitude of problems. That woman needs to be :slap:

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nissangirl74 wrote:The ideal solution would be for this woman to show some gratitude for the help she has received, stop complaining about what's wrong with her life, and take steps to fix it.
Agreed. Foster care, adoption, etc. are just band-aids. They don't fix the real problem.

Unfortunately, this nation (and its citizens) will have to remember where its balls went before the real problem will ever be fixed. The world is inhabited by two groups that, together, form the majority: the people who believe the world owes them everything, and the people who are so afraid of hurting someone's feelings that they willingly cater to the first group's broken mentality. I'd even go so far as to suggest that the idea of NOT helping people like that woman hasn't even dawned on either group. Of course they'll help her...that's how it works...right?

Welfare (or similar systems...whatever you want to call them) needs to have strict checks and limitations. The point is NOT to do everything for the people in need of help, it's to assist them in doing things FOR THEMSELVES. Take some of the load off in one area so they can put forth the necessary dedication in another area. You don't just buy them a damn home and say "there you go." No one benefits from that.

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Finding homes for the kids would be a huge problem, because they're not the only children in need. Ms. Angel probably wouldn't care if she had only received aid in the first place. she probably would've been complaining even more. All in all, she's just an ungrateful wench. I think foster care/adoption in this case isn't such a bad idea, because these kids definitely need to get away from this woman in any way they can, before their lives are completely ruined.
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dre1507 wrote:^^^Exactly what i was getting at. the problem of finding good homes for all 12. i cry for all the children of today's world who are victims of horrible parents. Parents who need a rock upside their heads to get their brains functioning properly again.
My sister is one of those people, and that is why I refuse to speak to her.

There are too many people in this world that need to close their legs until they understand that a child is not an object or a means of acquiring handouts. A child is a life long commitment and responsibility. They are not something you can push to the side. Rather, you need to embrace them and make sure they have a safe, loving upbringing. NOBODY needs to have twelve children.

Don't give this woman anything for the simple reason that she does not DESERVE it. When I think of "handouts" I think of a reward or trophy. When do you get rewards or trophies? When you are doing what you're doing an exceptional job at something. This woman is not doing the bare minimum. She is not being a fit mother or providing a suitable home for her children. She needs to have her kids taken from her and placed in appropriate housing. She needs to not be given a home. We are in debt as a country but handing out homes to unfit parents? What can I get?

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exactly coupe. the country's "broke" but they can give this lazy, ungrateful, poor excuse of parent a house. yo, anybody wanna claim a couple kids with me to see what all we can get?

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dre1507 wrote:the children aren't the problem. it's the parents using them as a means to get by in life
I have seen so many people do this, men and women alike. Children are NOT supposed to be your meal ticket!!! :mad:
We can only hope that the children will not emulate what they are going through. Instead, I hope they choose to rise and overcome the shortcomings of their upbringing and turn out to be good people and good parents to their own children.

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Too bad it's not in the US constitution that we can hold her head unterwater until she stops kicking. I'm sure her kids would be better off being raised by sewer rats than this scum that poses itself as a human being.

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"her problems started after a scuffle with a police officer when her 9 year old son was suspended from school for bringing a knife"

wtf?!

I truly do feel sorry for this woman, but judging from her ungratefulness and lack of respect for anyone who has done anything for her, the 12 kids (why the hell did you have 12 kids) need to go in foster homes because a dad in prison and a mom who is unwilling to work hard for her children and to solve her problems is just going to make life horrible for them...9 years old bringing a knife to school? Put them in a good home with parents who will teach them to be good in life and put them back into school before someone ends up on "The First 48".

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93coupe wrote:
There are too many people in this world that need to close their legs until they understand that a child is not an object or a means of acquiring handouts. A child is a life long commitment and responsibility. They are not something you can push to the side. Rather, you need to embrace them and make sure they have a safe, loving upbringing. NOBODY needs to have twelve children.

Don't give this woman anything for the simple reason that she does not DESERVE it. When I think of "handouts" I think of a reward or trophy. When do you get rewards or trophies? When you are doing what you're doing an exceptional job at something. This woman is not doing the bare minimum. She is not being a fit mother or providing a suitable home for her children. She needs to have her kids taken from her and placed in appropriate housing. She needs to not be given a home. We are in debt as a country but handing out homes to unfit parents? What can I get?

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When I read this title all I could keep singing was: Enough is Enough!!

But seriously, this is a terrible issue that needs resolved. Using a kid to get what you want (in any form) is sick and disgusting, whether you have 10 to get aid and money, or you use one to live out your own childhood dreams and not let them follow their own, is sick.

There are so many parents out there that need a swift kick in the pants and there "Hello, I am a human being, and I have rights" card revoked immediately.

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Let them fail. Let them go hungry. And let the children fall into our flawed foster system. It's about time people started learning the hard lessons from their irresponsible life choices. It's harsh, but its the only way people will learn.

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Wait, she has 12 kids, she should be raking in the money from welfare, I believe the current payout is like $1200 a month per child, but with the number of kids she has it's probably $600 a month. With the father in jail she might actually be drawing social security as well. The system is so flawed it's not even funny, if they got rid of welfare and financial/housing assistance for anyone capable of working (read as non disabled/non handicapped) then I think the baby factories would shut their legs. I'm surprised child services hasn't come and taken the kids away and locked her up for child endangerment. It's people like this that further reinforces my opinion that the government should secretly spike the public water works with chemicals that severely limit the reproductive system. There are enough kids in the system that if you want to have a child you have more than enough to choose from for adoption. This may make me seem like an a**, but think about this, there are more than a few people out there that abuse the system (both welfare and foster care), and most of these poor kids wind up just repeating the cycle, the ghetto's and slums get larger, school attendance drops, and crime continues to rise. At the rate we are going, 75% of the American population with be poor, uneducated, and have criminal records in 2 generations time. Meh, as much as I love this country I really hate it almost twice as much, we used to have the greatest country in the world, with our freedoms, ingenuity, and possibilities to live the dream, the lack of discipline, education, and care for your neighbors has driven us straight into the toilet.

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http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/apr/22 ... r-answers/

"I can have as many kids that I want to," she said. All her kids, she added, "are gifts from God."
:eek: :eek:
Where is this world coming too. :facepalm:

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MEDICAL EXPERIMENTS FOR THE LOT OF THEM!!!

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Woman = Jail for being an unfit human being.

Children = If too young to be in school they should be provided a parented home until they are able to go to school. Then send them to a military school. All others, straight to military school.

This way they get a good education, stay fit, and will be ready for real life in the world by the time they graduate.

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First it was Jon and Kate, then Octomom, now there's Dodecagon-o-mom

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The judge threw the mom in jail today for refusing to answer her questions.

"A Department of Children and Families official said the state would probably seek to take permanent custody of the 12 children who are under 18" <--- this needs to happen.


http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/cri ... il/1091366

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nissangirl74 wrote:The judge threw the mom in jail today for refusing to answer her questions.

"A Department of Children and Families official said the state would probably seek to take permanent custody of the 12 children who are under 18" <--- this needs to happen.


http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/cri ... il/1091366
yaay. at least we know DCF isn't completely worthless. Just don't create another RIlya Wilson case. please don't.

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Birth control needs to be introduced so every girl has to take it no matter what. And then, if you want to go slut it out, go for it. But we are gradually overpopulating the world and because this b**** and octoslutmom wont f*** close their legs, I suggest you must pass a test before you can get pregnant. If you don't have a house. FAIL. No job? FAIL! Dads in prison on coke charges? :slap:


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