Enough is Enough!

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

Yeah we need birth control introduced into the water supply.
Who cares if it'll f*** up everything else...this world really needs less people. Now I'm not one to cast judgement one's faith...well, actually I am...but "Go forth and Procreate" doesn't hold water when 1/3 of the planet's inhabitants are suffering from malnutrition. It's selfish behavior to have that many children, period. And claiming it's by will of your God? Just an excuse for your selfishness.
How many children should a person be allowed to make? No idea....but it certainly isn't 8, or 12.
China was a lesson in how NOT to do population control...though they did go far in taking the initiative. As time goes on this subject will become more and more important....and it won't be pretty.

[onlydrinkkoolaid 240Love]

These are the people that need the most help. You could say, take everything back and show her what its like to have nothing... but she came from that and is STILL not grateful. What this lady needs is God in her life, as well as her kids. Materialistic things can benefit people, only so much. What she needs, as do we all... is the Jesus. Amen. ; )

YES, I AGREE GOD is what she needs my heart breaks for the pain in suffering I see in this world not just in America but everywhere. So many are so blind and have become callous to what the truth is about our purpose yet alone there purpose in life. I can only pray that someone can have a helping hand on her children life.

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

the Jesus.

I didn't know Jesus was a thing.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Can we not bring religion into this, this has nothing to do with religion, this has everything to do with ignorance, laziness, and abuse of the system. Population control is going to be a must in the very near future, not just here but worldwide, there aren't enough resources to support all the people we have now, let alone what will be here in say 20 or 30 years. Don't get me wrong, if Daddy and Mrs' Bigbucks want children then they will find loopholes, but realistically if you can't afford to support yourself there is no way in hell that you should be allowed to have a child, let alone 5, 6, 10, 12. This is like a ghetto version of the Duggers, but at least the Duggers have money, plus they are old school about raising their kids.
Back in the day (when our grandparents and great grandparents were born) families needed to have a lot of kids because they were the ones who worked on the family farms or family business', but these days that isn't even in the equation, so for a family to have more than 2 kids is just ridonculous, and that's pushing it if the couple can't even support themselves. My sister has 5 kids, but she does Pharmaceutical Research and my brother in law is a Physicist working for the DoD, so they make fairly good money between the two of them. While I'm not a fan of their parenting tactics, it works and they've given up on that stupid new age parenting B.S. so the kids do well in school and for the most part are well behaved and know the difference between right and wrong.

[Bmore-coupe]

The judge threw the mom in jail today for refusing to answer her questions.

"A Department of Children and Families official said the state would probably seek to take permanent custody of the 12 children who are under 18" <--- this needs to happen.


http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/cri ... il/1091366

THat article made me wonder....Can we please bring back good ol' fashioned firing squads?

[HashiriyaS14]

Agreed. Foster care, adoption, etc. are just band-aids. They don't fix the real problem.

Unfortunately, this nation (and its citizens) will have to remember where its balls went before the real problem will ever be fixed. The world is inhabited by two groups that, together, form the majority: the people who believe the world owes them everything, and the people who are so afraid of hurting someone's feelings that they willingly cater to the first group's broken mentality. I'd even go so far as to suggest that the idea of NOT helping people like that woman hasn't even dawned on either group. Of course they'll help her...that's how it works...right?

Welfare (or similar systems...whatever you want to call them) needs to have strict checks and limitations. The point is NOT to do everything for the people in need of help, it's to assist them in doing things FOR THEMSELVES. Take some of the load off in one area so they can put forth the necessary dedication in another area. You don't just buy them a damn home and say "there you go." No one benefits from that.

^^
As great as this all sounds, it's infeasible because you can't just "cut off" kids. You can do it with adults, but those adults *are* protected, for all intents and purposes, from the consequences of their own actions when they can hide behind twelve children. The state can't let minors live in destitution.

People are never going to just start being responsible, at least not within a generation. I'm not sure what the solution is, it's a difficult problem. Any solution would have to simultaneously make things livable for the children whilst also making life very very difficult for the adult, very uncomfortable.

And then there are always exceptions. Even if this woman has marketable job skills, I guarantee you that she will never be able to support twelve kids on her own no matter what she ends up doing, at least not properly. Too far gone. Now, that doesn't mean we should suck it up and give her a cushy existence, she needs to feel the pain, but the kids shouldn't, and therein lies the difficulty.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Zombie Apocalypse needs to happen NOW. The problem with our society is that no one is ever held accountable for their actions and every one is more than happy to point fingers and pass the blame onto some one else. I seriously think that if the U.S. Government said today that starting next week there will be no more welfare checks or financial aid for anyone regardless of ethnicity, education, or financial status and stuck to that and developed a whole new system from scratch that only gave financial assistance to those who are physically and/or mentally handicapped ( ie a broken back, mental retardation, etc...) that are completely incapable of working at any job I seriously think that not only would the new improved "Welfare" system pay out far less a month than it does now but the number of people who would be forced to get a job and thus pay taxes would increase and in the end the money saved/earned by this new system can be put into education and/or crime prevention.

Still think that governmental imposed population control needs to go into effect before things get to bad.

[nissangirl74]

Still think that governmental imposed population control needs to go into effect before things get to bad.

Read this statement and think about what it means. Government...imposed...control? No thank you. We have way too much government control as it is.

You can't eliminate all aid because there are some out there who truly need it. However, there needs to be an implementation of a system of accountability for those who abuse it. To get something, you should have to give something. It doesn't have to be monetary, but it has to have value. There should be time limits on how long you can receive aid, monetary limits, and proof that the person receiving aid is putting forth reasonable effort to better themselves and get off the assistance. If they fail to do so, they are given notice that they will be taken off assistance AND their children will be removed from their custody. This may sound harsh (taking kids away from their parents) but if the children are suffering because of the parents' actions, then they are better off without them. Also, if you take the funds being spent to support the deadbeats and pour that into the foster care system, they could afford to make the changes that are needed to make that system better.

[93coupe]

Who deleted my post, and why?

[dre1507]

Still think that governmental imposed population control needs to go into effect before things get to bad.

Read this statement and think about what it means. Government...imposed...control? No thank you. We have way too much government control as it is.

You can't eliminate all aid because there are some out there who truly need it. However, there needs to be an implementation of a system of accountability for those who abuse it. To get something, you should have to give something. It doesn't have to be monetary, but it has to have value. There should be time limits on how long you can receive aid, monetary limits, and proof that the person receiving aid is putting forth reasonable effort to better themselves and get off the assistance. If they fail to do so, they are given notice that they will be taken off assistance AND their children will be removed from their custody. This may sound harsh (taking kids away from their parents) but if the children are suffering because of the parents' actions, then they are better off without them. Also, if you take the funds being spent to support the deadbeats and pour that into the foster care system, they could afford to make the changes that are needed to make that system better.

yes there are those that truly need the aid. so it's up to the government to make sure who needs it gets it, and who's abusing it, loses it. If i'm giving you a substantial amount of money to help you support and provide for your family, you can be sure imma be all up in your business trying to see how and for what my money is being used.

[nissangirl74]

Who deleted my post, and why?

It wasn't me

[nissangirl74]

If i'm giving you a substantial amount of money to help you support and provide for your family, you can be sure imma be all up in your business trying to see how and for what my money is being used.

This.

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

Yeah population control is a touchy subject...especially with Americans. We have been shown time and time again that the government cannot handle something as integral to life as that. And freedom is valued above all else in this country. But it needs to happen. Or it will most likely happen on it's own when a supervirus takes out a couple billion people in the near future. That way nobody has to make any hard decisions...they just have to DIE.

[93coupe]

So if it wasn't Becky.... whoever it was, please email me as I would REALLY like to know why it was deleted considering it broke zero rules of conduct.