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Well it would be about time the 370z made good hp. Seriously has Nissan just given up?


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krazy skwerel wrote: Seriously has Nissan just given up?
Perhaps. But I'm wondering if Nissan boosts the midpriced 370z's power too much, that could lessen the appeal for people to shell out $110K+ for a new GT-R.

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VR38 in Versa.

VH45 Maxima.

VK56 Frontier.

VR38 AWD NX2000

VR38 AWD B13 SE-R

VR38 S30

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The answer is (and always will be):
Miata.

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Mazda Protege5 converted to RWD with a 4G63 boosted to IDK...let me see... maybe 700hp.

But a 3rotor in just about anything would make me smile as it BRAAPs.

But if it has to be newer model. I'd shoot for what could be a production car with probably more balls. I liked the idea of the 510 concept, idx or whatever. Take a low end every man's car and make it a monster. V8 a new altima RWD.

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:The answer is (and always will be):
Miata.
here ya go.

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1.6 DIG-T (Nismo) in a Note with 14" wheels, R-compounds, and a crazy diet.

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RicerX wrote:
Bubba1 wrote:
2. How stuffing a GT-R motor into a 370/350Z with a manual transmission? What every true Nissan enthusiast wants, a powerful sports car with a man-pedal and without so many idiot-proofing nannies.

MOTHER OF GOD DO THIS
Realize that this was without a swap.

[youtube]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xe9iKqMjQc[/youtube]

Happy fapping.

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:The answer is (and always will be):
Miata.
including, what car has had more builds promoted than possibly any other car? :chuckle:

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I dunno, probably a mustang or camaro really.

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:I dunno, probably a mustang or camaro really.
Yeah, our last vehicle we built was a twin turbo Camaro. Looking to do something on the import side now. We still have the Camaro too.

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widebody mg with a 3-rotor.

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LMAO at that video. The GTR guy waving "bye" and then the moment his soul was crushed as the 370 walked him. I wonder what speed it was that it happened.

Miata or 370 would be cool.


Even cooler- how about the ND Miata and fab up awesome new parts for it before anyone else can!!

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frapjap wrote:LMAO at that video. The GTR guy waving "bye" and then the moment his soul was crushed as the 370 walked him. I wonder what speed it was that it happened.

Miata or 370 would be cool.


Even cooler- how about the ND Miata and fab up awesome new parts for it before anyone else can!!
Although that would be a cool idea, we aren't a fab shop, we're a parts distributor. Whatever we build will be outsourced to a shop to build it for us, and we want to do something where we carry a lot of parts that already fit. There's basically nothing available for the ND right now.

The Z34 chassis and VR38DETT on the other hand, we carry hundreds, maybe even thousands of parts for both the chassis and engine. That really is a top pick right now for us. We have to look into the feasibility of it though now.

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Bubba1 wrote:
krazy skwerel wrote: Seriously has Nissan just given up?
Perhaps. But I'm wondering if Nissan boosts the midpriced 370z's power too much, that could lessen the appeal for people to shell out $110K+ for a new GT-R.
I understand that logic, but the GTR is a technical marvel and has more gadgets than you can shake a stick at. What I want to see is either a lighter z car with the same power or power numbers close to the 400 range and keep it free of a lot of the electronic marvels the GTR offers. In this day and time that's not a lot to ask for from a car manufacturer.

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want to just finish my s30 neo rb25 for me, since time isn't my friend these days?

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EZcheese15 wrote:
PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:I dunno, probably a mustang or camaro really.
Yeah, our last vehicle we built was a twin turbo Camaro. Looking to do something on the import side now. We still have the Camaro too.
Yeah, my response was to Joel's comment:
Bubba1 wrote:
PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:The answer is (and always will be):
Miata.
including, what car has had more builds promoted than possibly any other car? :chuckle:

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Bubba1 wrote: How stuffing a GT-R motor into a 240Z with a manual transmission?
FTFY ;)

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nissangirl74 wrote:
Bubba1 wrote: How about stuffing a GT-R motor into a 240Z with a manual transmission?
FTFY ;)

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GTR motor in a 1971 Mach 1. :dblthumb:

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nissangirl74 wrote:
Bubba1 wrote: How stuffing a GT-R motor into a 240Z with a manual transmission?
FTFY ;)
I initially thought about the 240z before the 370z, given Gord's beautiful RB 240z. But with the 240Z I thought with so many people having already done engine swaps in their 240z's dating back 45 years, doing yet another one kinda loses some of the industry impact to me. By comparison, the 370Z has not had as many swaps done, it's still in production (making it more relevant), Nissan has already stuffed that motor into a Juke (which was the wrong choice IMHO), and the 370z has a huge aftermarket for upgrades. Seeing Torry's guys build a "new" Nissan that enthusiasts really want, without the fun-sapping, expensive, electronic nannies or flappy paddle trannies is very appealing to me . If it's doable and generates buzz, perhaps Nissan would finally take notice and do something about it....ok, that might be asking too much. ;)

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Bubba1 wrote:
I initially thought about the 240z before the 370z, given Gord's beautiful RB 240z. But with the 240Z I thought with so many people having already done engine swaps in their 240z's dating back 45 years, doing yet another one kinda loses some of the industry impact to me. By comparison, the 370Z has not had as many swaps done, it's still in production (making it more relevant), Nissan has already stuffed that motor into a Juke (which was the wrong choice IMHO), and the 370z has a huge aftermarket for upgrades. Seeing Torry's guys build a "new" Nissan that enthusiasts really want, without the fun-sapping, expensive, electronic nannies or flappy paddle trannies is very appealing to me . If it's doable and generates buzz, perhaps Nissan would finally take notice and do something about it....ok, that might be asking too much. ;)
Yep, you nailed it. For all those exact reasons is why we're going to look at doing this. The fact that both chassis & engine are still in production and relevant lets us build something completely unique that most people wouldn't have the money for (to custom build it), but also gives us the opportunity to showcase both suspension and powertrain parts that we sell lots of, and on a car that any enthusiast would think is awesome.

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How about using that GT-R engine in a Z32? Seems like a natural "evolution" since it was already a TT V6. You're just bringing it into modern times.

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frapjap wrote:How about using that GT-R engine in a Z32? Seems like a natural "evolution" since it was already a TT V6. You're just bringing it into modern times.
Because the Z32 sucks compared to a Z34 chassis. :)

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The Z34 VR38 swap sounds like a great idea to me too.

Although i'll still offer up a few alternatives just for the heck of it:

VR38 swapped Q45. A first gen Q45 would be very different. It would likely require some restoration but the car itself would be dirt cheap.

I like the 1.6 DIG-T swap idea, but i'd rather see it in a Versa sedan instead.

Nissan Frontier 2wd with a VK56 swap. More of a Japanese "Muscle Truck" theme.

If you want to get real crazy, i'd love to see an 80's american muscle car or sedan with something like a VR38 swapped into it. G-Body GM like a Buick Regal/Cutlass/Monte Carlo or an F-Body Camaro/Firebird/Trans Am.

This with a weird engine under the hood would be hawt :naughty:

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All cool ideas, but also trying to pick what is the most relevant to our industry. We sell parts for sport compacts and modern muscle. So while the 80's GM stuff might be cool to throw a VR in, we don't support the chassis at all.

And like I said, our last build was a twin turbo 2010 Camaro so we're trying to do something that is more directed to import guys this time around. So the VR Z34 still stands as the winner right now unless we just determine it'll be too difficult to do (or too expensive). But I appreciate all the other suggestions. Gives us things to think about it :)

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If I was going to put that engine in anything Nissan make it would be a M chassis. Modern sleeper.

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OriginalWheelman wrote:If I was going to put that engine in anything Nissan make it would be a M chassis. Modern sleeper.
Yeah, but Nissan already did something similar to that with the Q50 Eau Rogue. Not an M chassis, but same concept.

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I always read that as Ewwww Rogue..... and forget that it's a Q chassis.

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How about a VR38 in a BRZ? You could have the great body style + the dependability of the VR? One of the biggest complaints of BRZ owners was not enough power / inability to mod the engine without serious failure concerns. the VR would fix that.


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