engine oil problem?

[cyaa]

Hey whats up?I'm new to this forum. Now heres my problem I own a 04 g35 coupe 6mt I have had it for about 2yrs now I recently heard a crazy noise when I would go up hills it sounds like the bearings in the motor come to find out that there was almost no oil in the motor and befor anyone asks I have all my service done by the Infiniti dealer in my area now the service manager says get this that it's normal for a g35 6mt to burn anywhere from 1 to 2 quarts of oil between oil changes I pretty much told him thats bull **** and now they are performing some kind of oil consupcion test where I have to bring it back to them every 1000 miles to check my oil wich by the way is a pain anyway I guess what I'm asking is anyone els haveing this problem or is it just me and my luck any thoughts thanks Ben ps heres a pick of my car next to my tool box at work

[g_ride]

yup i have the same problem and they told me the same thing and its a pain for me as well i live like 35miles away from a infiniti dealer they told me they found nothing wrong and they chargerd me $45 for a new oil change to start the test i havent put a 1000 miles on it yet but it dosnt seem to be using the oil since they changed it but i guess well see how it works out eventually

[joe603]

Its almost luck of the draw...something like 1 in 100 motors have oil consumption problems. Do a search in the forum and you'll see the threads...

[telcoman]

I would advise everyone with a G35 to check their oil weekly. I do & checkall the other fluids as well as tire pressure. It only takes a few minutes.I have a 2006 G35 sedan 6sp manual. The first time I checked the oil after taking delivery was around 1500 miles. I was surprised that I was almost two quarts low. I now have over 13k miles and have just changed the oil myself for the 4th time. Since my last oil change at 11,900 miles when I checked the oil at 12,900 I had to add 1/2 qt. So as the car is aging the oil consumption appears to be dropping. Infinity dealers state that 1 qt per 1000 miles is normal? My old 92 Lexus ES300 5sp manual that I got rid of last year never used a drop of oil with over 100k miles on it.

Telcoman

[g_ride]

with a problem this big u would think a company like infiniti would do a recall on this eventually

[jhoke]

Had this problem on a Lexus and they eventually extended the warranty to 8 years, unlimited miles. Called it a condition caused by oil gelling or sludge. In the process now of trying to get it covered. Doing an oil consumption test through the dealer. We'll see. Not much faith they will do anything other than try to find a way out of it.

Someone with this problem should contact a lawyer that does class actions. Too many of these cars have an oil consumption problem.

[jhoke]

Decided to get the ball rolling with some attorneys that do class actions. We'll see if they get interested.

[g_ride]

sweet deal keep us posted on how things r going or if theres any thing us infiniti owners can do to help

[jhoke]

It might be nice if we had a post or sticky where everyone that has this problem could sign up, if I can get the attorney interested. They will need someone or several someones to be plaintiff.
Modified by jhoke at 1:01 PM 10/19/2006

[wkim711]

mines seems to have that problem to i have to put oil in it every once in a while to get it to the normal level i have 2500 miles on it and seems to be getting better

also have a question about dipstickis it me or does the dipstick in the g35 suck every time i check my oil it seems like the whole dipstick get oil on it not just in between the "L" and the "H" just wondering if there is anything to do about thisi know how to check my oil but just disconcerning and im not sure if im getting an acurate reading just wondering if anybody else seems to have this problem

[joe603]

The stick is in a crappy location...

[acoats]

Listen up everyone who has posted. There is nothing wrong with your engine. This is not grounds for a lawsuit. It is called a high-performance motor. The higher the performance, the increased likelihood of oil consumption; especially on motors with low mileage. Oil burning is very common during this break-in period. This is caused by all bearings and seals seating properly. This is also why "seasoned blocks" (40-60k miles) are more desirable for racing and forced induction; they are seated properly. I am a huge bmw fan, and they claim 1 qt. consumption every 750 miles on the M car engines. Guess what? My M3 with 108000 miles does not burn any oil between changes and I track the car. This is because the block and seals were broken in properly. It amazes me what people will ***** about when you a dealing with all the complicated workings of an automobile. Learn to turn a wrench or check a dipstick before you file your lawsuits.

[telcoman]

You are correct. The dipstick does suck. Compare that dipstick to a Honda Civic. The Civic has a better dipstick but I still love the G35.Yes checking the oil is a bit of a pain in the *** & I usually have to shove the dipstick down a few times to get an accurate reading but

Telcoman

[jhoke]

Horse sh+t! I have built and driven higher performance engines than these ever thought about being, and never, if the engine is built correctly, had any oil consumption problem after a short breakin period. Built a rat motor with over 11.5 compression, raced it and drove it on the street with no oil consumption.Also, have had 4 BMW's with no oil consumption problems. Just shouldn't happen.

[C-Kwik]

Listen up everyone who has posted. There is nothing wrong with your engine. This is not grounds for a lawsuit. It is called a high-performance motor. The higher the performance, the increased likelihood of oil consumption; especially on motors with low mileage. Oil burning is very common during this break-in period. This is caused by all bearings and seals seating properly. This is also why "seasoned blocks" (40-60k miles) are more desirable for racing and forced induction; they are seated properly. I am a huge bmw fan, and they claim 1 qt. consumption every 750 miles on the M car engines. Guess what? My M3 with 108000 miles does not burn any oil between changes and I track the car. This is because the block and seals were broken in properly. It amazes me what people will ***** about when you a dealing with all the complicated workings of an automobile. Learn to turn a wrench or check a dipstick before you file your lawsuits.

It's not always that simple man. I have a friend who bought a Z earlier this year. He maintains it as he should and it was fine until a couple months ago. I drove the Z for a week while he was on his honeymoon. It burned a lot of oil, but ran fine otherwise. It wasn't like this issue occurred over time. It was quite sudden. He is waiting to take it in and the engine will be replaced. I put 3 quarts of oil in the week I borrowed it. He had the oil changed about 1,000 miles before that and less than a day after I started driving it, I saw the oil pressure begin to sit too low. 3 quarts of oil burned in 1,000 miles is way too much for any motor under any condition.

[cyaa]

Hey Thanks for saying something to that acoats guy he realy P**** me off about that quote he made I'm not sure if he was reffering to me or everyone that had something to add I swear if he was sitting next to me we would of had problems but anyway thanks for the response everyoneBen

[nguyent510]

Hey Cyaa. Nice ride..Are those Werks Wheels? 20's? I do have the same oil problem. Love my car, but...I hate the freakin' dip stick!!! Not a great engineering breakthrough. Has anybody out there heard of a re-positioning of the dip stick? It is even possible? One other thing..If any engine experts can answer this question...If I change my regular oil to synthetic, would this reduce the oil consumption?

P.S 2003 Coupe w/Brembo

[joe603]

Actually, it may make it worse...Synthetic is "slipperier" than regular oil. Oil consumption is usually from the ring seals. More and more I'm starting to believe that there was a bad run of VQ engines...

[WESIDE]

Let me know where to sign up. Got an 06 coupe with like 4000 miles on it. Changed the oil at around 2500 miles with a non synthetic and the other day checked it and was at least a quart low. Gonna change it again soon and hopefully the results will differ.

[g_ride]

ill agree 100% the dipstick sucks a big one u got to dip it a few time to get a good reading then the thing sticks all the when u pull it out or put it back in

when i took it in to have the problem looked at they changed the oil iam guesing the dealership used regular oil not synthetic but they wanted to do a oil consumption test but it dosnt seem to be using the oil like it was i was adding a lil bit everyday to get it to the normal full line on the dip stick

[Kenrik]

Use thicker oil...

Moible 1 15w 50 is great stuff

[cyaa]

Hey Thanks for all the replys everyone for awhile there I thought I was the only one with this problem but it seems like there is more of you out there dealing with the same bullsh#t I am well at the very least I know I'm not alone with this issue oh by the way to answer a prev post they are 20 staggered Dazz wheels here is a new pick from the back just got it back from the bodyshop this week

[Road Ruler]

Yup, the dip stick is a pain but having no dip stick for the automatic transmission fluid is a bigger pain.

I bought my G35 sedan a year and a half ago with 58K on it. It seemed to burn more oil than it should. I change the oil myself every 5K and put in 10-30 Synthetic. It is acceptable now. Burns about 1L in the 5,000K. In the winter I go with 5w30 Synthetic.

Note... We also own a 14 year old Nissan Quest with over 400,000 KLM's on it. It has the 3.0VQ and 150HP. It also burns about 1L of oil every 5,000K. ???

Does anyone know if there is a defect in some of the VQ's and if so what? rings, valve seals, etc ???

[nguyent510]

We all have performance engine in our car the G35. With all high performance engines there has to be some burning of some oil. Talked to the dealer and this what they told me. Thats why when you drive any where far, you are suppose to check your oil. I also asked if changing to full-synthetic would help....he said NO.

[ezflow]

Yup, the dip stick is a pain but having no dip stick for the automatic transmission fluid is a bigger pain.

The consumption problem seems to be more related to the 6MT. Maybe pulling oil when engine braking at higher rpms. Hard to say. Been reported on many G35 forums. Including g35Driver where at least 2 people are waiting for new engines from Infiniti.

There is a dipstick for the 5AT. At the rear of the engine remove the 10mm bolt from the black/white cap over the tall metal tube. Same location for adding ATF.Unless you have leak this level should rarely change. It is at an inconvenient location because it is not expected to need much checking.

[C-Kwik]

A drain for oil from the head to the lower crankcase shares space with the dipstick. I learned this when filling oil once with the dipstick out. Oil came pouring out of the dipstick hole. I had usually filled the oil, then pulled the dipstick and left it out for a few minutes before checking. You usually get a much better reading then.

[ezflow]

A drain for oil from the head to the lower crankcase shares space with the dipstick. I learned this when filling oil once with the dipstick out. Oil came pouring out of the dipstick hole. I had usually filled the oil, then pulled the dipstick and left it out for a few minutes before checking. You usually get a much better reading then.

Yup, good points! Most accurate readings are doing them the same way each time. Tire pressure and fluid levels are best done first thing in the morning, each and every time for the best repeatable readings.

[WdnUlik2no]

I got that same thing in my 06 G35 6MT.

I had been noticing that when driving there was this loud clattering coming from under my hood for the past month. It wasn't that bad at first and whe I first took it to Infiniti, they couldn't hear it. But yesterday it was real bad and I heard it all the time. I took it back and they finally heard it, They drained my oil and said they found I had no more than 3/4 QT of oil in the car. They contacted the Tech line and was advised to start the "Oil consumption test" They topped it back off at no charge and told me to come back in 1000 miles to inspect the oil again. They informed me not to change, check or other was tamper with the oil during this period.

I didn't even have 2900 miles on it when this problem started happening.

[ezflow]

I got that same thing in my 06 G35 6MT.

I had been noticing that when driving there was this loud clattering coming from under my hood for the past month. It wasn't that bad at first and whe I first took it to Infiniti, they couldn't hear it. But yesterday it was real bad and I heard it all the time. I took it back and they finally heard it, They drained my oil and said they found I had no more than 3/4 QT of oil in the car. They contacted the Tech line and was advised to start the "Oil consumption test" They topped it back off at no charge and told me to come back in 1000 miles to inspect the oil again. They informed me not to change, check or other was tamper with the oil during this period.

I didn't even have 2900 miles on it when this problem started happening.

At least they didn't beat you over the head saying you should have checked it more often. Hard to say if some damage has already occurred. Sounds like you have been using a quart about every 600 to 700 miles... I would say that's excessive! Maybe your rings never seated.

[djmike1]

Well guys my brother has a g35 coupe autotrans.. well we keep seeing that his oil was runing low just thought is was something normal.. after a few months of the same thing the car started to make nosie at about 4500 rpm.. The car was brought to the dealer to get cheaked out.. the car was there for over a month, then for my brother to get a call by the service rep saying they cant find anything wroung with the car.. then my brother went to the dealer took a tech for a ride to show him where in the RPM range it was making the nosie another 2 weeks go by and he gets a phone call from the rep. again saying that they need every oil change info and such, if not they would have to charge him to open up the motor to see what was causing the nosie .. and if they found any sluge in the motor or anything of that nature then he would have to pay to fix the motor.. so he took the car home to see what he would do... well a few months pass with car siting in his garage .. he takes the car out to go to work and it sounds like one of the rods went ....

so has this happen to any one else ...