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rwc1984
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this is not a post that ask which engine is better. here in the next few months i am going to buy a S14 and turn that into a drift car. what i want to know is what are the pros and cons of these engines.. SR20, KA24, RB26....from what you guys say and my opinion i will determine which engine to use..


Matej
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It doesn't matter, they will all do their job, it's all about personal preference, availability, and your money situation.

rwc1984
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i know they all will do the job, but i want to know the pros and cons of each engine....here is another question which engine will give me the best response?? i want to build a good all around car and with good hp and tq

rwc1984
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well i want to have about 400 whp to 550 whp when i am totally done....i know doin a swap will cost extra money but lets say i bought the car with the a SR20 or a RB26 already there.....are parts for the RB26 and SR20 expensive compared to the KA24?? basically i want an engine that gives me great and quick response when i want it and can withstand weekends at the track....i know the SR20 and the RB26 have turbos what if a KA24 had a turbo or would it be better to keep it NA?? right now i am just gettin as much info as i can before i make the investment

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If you want availability, the SR has the most aftermarket support. The cost of parts is similar for all engines.

Go LS1.

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neverlift
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stage6 car is an rb25 IIRC nastiest sounding car evar! white car which is well in need of assistance,The driver hit the rail at vir while trying to get on.... I wont know more till later,is an sr20..... http://www.stage6motorsports.c...o.wmv btw the s13 from stage6 won tertech mufu!!!!!!!!!! due to outragoues drifts and tire smoke~~~~~~~~

but I vote kat

rwc1984
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BADASS VIDEO!!! think you guys could give me some help???

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rwc1984 wrote:this is not a post that ask which engine is better. here in the next few months i am going to buy a S14 and turn that into a drift car. what i want to know is what are the pros and cons of these engines.. SR20, KA24, RB26....from what you guys say and my opinion i will determine which engine to use..
PLEASE PEOPLE I NEED HELP!!

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greengt2nv
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if you are going for drift... learn how with the NA KA, a set of coil overs, welded or lsd. then worry about what motor you need. I have a SOHC right now just learning and it does the job for a beginner. but when you get better then worry about 400+ whp.

OH AND SEARCH...

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adrianfromthecastle
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whoever told you you cant drift with your stock motor lied to you.

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rwc1984 wrote: PLEASE PEOPLE I NEED HELP!!
nobody is going to hold your hand and give you the "correct" answer because there isnt one.

bottom line is the engine does not make the driver. you need to LEARN HOW TO DRIFT rather than plan this huge 500whp build when you have no idea what you are doing out there. thats how cars get wrecked.

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i don't want anyone to hold my hand..i know there isn't a "correct" answer that is why they call it an opinion..i just want peoples opinions on the engines so that i can add my opinion to that and choose the right engine for me....the 400 whp to 500whp is just my goal for when i get better....and i was also wanting to know which engine can handle that power with the most ease....i do have an idea which engine i probably will go for but i like to hear other peoples opinion on things

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phanatikz32
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Kamin wrote:bottom line is the engine does not make the driver. you need to LEARN HOW TO DRIFT rather than plan this huge 500whp build when you have no idea what you are doing out there. thats how cars get wrecked.
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY!! wel.... almost.... how good a drifter you are depends very little on how fixed up your engine is, how do you think tsuchiya gets sideways in corrolas all the time! but if you want to be average get an sr20 if you want to be a little sicker than the average get an rb26, if you want to be a ****in G, drop a VG30DETT or do some really hard work on your KA. every 240 in the whole world runs the sr20 thats why parts are so plentiful for it, the engine itself wont be hard to find, and you'll have no trouble with the swapp. if you drop in an rb, then your just going to be a little out of the ordinary, alot of 240 people put r34 motor in their car, or dream about doing it. now if you fix the **** out of your ka, they you will be a G because not many people are dedicated enough to do that they all just go straight for the swap, because they want instant hoursepower, now the ka is not as strong of a motor as the sr in my opinion but it will get the job done, and will make good hp, with a little work. and if you drop in a VG then you are also a ****in G. nobody i know runs the z32 engine in their 240, and im not sure why the z32 engine is one of nissans strongest engines. and in your light *** 240 that thing'll be like a rocket!!

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as for part costs, i know nothing of the matter but if you just use deductive reasoning.... the ka is the american sr so looking for parts for the ka would be easier in america right? the sr, was imported from japan, so looking for parts for a japanese motor in amerca may not be so easy, and anything you find will have been imported from japan thus making it more expensive than the parts made for the ka. and a skyline is rare in the americas, and expensive in japan, so buying parts for its motor just seems like it would be more expensive then the other two options.

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phanatikz32
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HOLY SHHHHHH! DUDE THAT S IS A BEAST! THAT RB25 SOUNDS SOOOOOOOO SWEET!!!!

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neverlift
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yeah it does wish it was mine. lol

call em up they can do it! whatever you want.... they have a website too so http://stage6motorsports.com/v...0f7c2

yeah they do some good work if you got the flow.

as for sr parts being pricey depends on what you need..... we have a page full of parts for the sr you can get over the counter search it on NICO

oh yeah you learn to drive what you have then get some *** under your foot. You will save yourself a car,look at nick hogan he owned that viper due to he thought he could drive.

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My 2 cents..... If you use the KA get some stout headwork done. Those things fall on there face in the higher revs stock. And if your drifting you'll be in the higher revs 90% of the time. They have good bottom end, and bad top end. Springs and retainers are a MUST!

OMFG That RB sounds so nasty I can barely contain myself! What BOV is that?

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you dont see VG's in 240's because its a big *** engine and would be the best suited for a "drift" option car being that it would be front heavy.. besides why go through all that work to make it work when you can get the same power out of a better suited engine for possibly cheaper and less pain in the ***. And dont say to be different cause there is no such thing anymore and as long as the engine performs thats all that matters in the end.

As for you choices i think its kinda stupid your first goals involve even thinking about that much power.. but whatever its your money and your car to crash, so i would say the RB could withstand the most power the easiest from the build of the block but might be a bit harder to get parts, the SR like everyone has said has huge availability and with some mods could also run that power day to day, with the KA rebuilding it you could go NA or Turbo and although my friend built an 11sec NA KA i would still say go turbo especially if you want that kinda power cause it would be alot cheaper to get there on FI power then spending a ton of $$$$ to get there NA, so the KAT well if built correctly would also be able to handle the power you want and would offer more torque then that of the SR but from what i understand will be a bit more pricey then getting that power in an SR. But then again at the power range you speak of you would have way more power then you would probably ever need or be able to handle while drifting, hope that helps

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adrians_s13 wrote:whoever told you you cant drift with your stock motor lied to you.
u lie...

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adrians_s13 wrote:whoever told you you cant drift with your stock motor lied to you.
A friend of mine told me that many years ago a friend of a friend of his once tried to drift with the stock motor, and five years later it blew a headgasket.

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Matej wrote:A friend of mine told me that many years ago a friend of a friend of his once tried to drift with the stock motor, and five years later it blew a headgasket.
LOL @ 5 years of drifting... I woulda at least expected 2 years max.

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phanatikz32
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slidecrave wrote:you dont see VG's in 240's because its a big *** engine and would be the best suited for a "drift" option car being that it would be front heavy.. besides why go through all that work to make it work when you can get the same power out of a better suited engine for possibly cheaper and less pain in the ***. And dont say to be different cause there is no such thing anymore and as long as the engine performs thats all that matters in the end.
i agree that the engine is huge, and would cause the care to be slightly "front heavy" but how could you say that wouldnt be original?

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well search on nico and you can find a couple... vg's in s chassis.

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start with a good set of coilovers and bolt ons to your N/A ka once you get good at powerslides and i guess you could call them small drifts ether do a stock rb swap or a Sr with few bolt ons or turbo your Ka ether way make about 220whp then further build the susp. get where you can drive that and start doing drifts at little bit higher speeds. once you get that down work at stiffing the car itsself as in tower bars,swaybars maybe even a floor bar then work up the power and so on so on....

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I like the RBs but i think a 26 is a bit heavy, i would go with a 20-25. If your looking for that much power a 25 would get it. Also i would go with a CA-18 before an SR just for the high rev. I think nomuken uses a 25 with 26 internals, but like everyone said learn with something small then work your way up. I have an RB20 and it has enough power for me, and i can rev it high when i need to. Keep us updated.

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what makes that popping noise? I love that so much!

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moto600 wrote:what makes that popping noise? I love that so much!
either your talking about your normal backfires or your probably talking about the Bee*R rev limiter

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chicos240
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Buy a civic

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chicos240 wrote:Buy a civic
BOOOO! jk.. i like civics too.. but 240's r better... plain and simple

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neverlift wrote:stage6 car is an rb25 IIRC nastiest sounding car evar! white car which is well in need of assistance,The driver hit the rail at vir while trying to get on.... I wont know more till later,is an sr20..... http://www.stage6motorsports.c...o.wmv btw the s13 from stage6 won tertech mufu!!!!!!!!!! due to outragoues drifts and tire smoke~~~~~~~~

but I vote kat
NICE VID.... I VOTE FOR THE FOR THE KA ALSO B/C THE SR IS ONLY GOOD UNTIL 280 HP ANYTHING OVER THAT U WILL HAVE PROBLEM ALOT OF THEM BUT THE SR IS FAST.

RB SERIES- GOOD MOTOR RB25 ANYWAYS BUT PARTS ARE CRAZY TO FIND U WILL BE ON THE CPU ALL THE TIME

KA-T MAYBE THE BEST OPTION IN MY OPINON BECAUSE THE MONEY THAT YOU WOULD SAVE UP TO GET A SR ($1700-2200) CAN GET U 200 TO 220 HP OUT OF THE KA WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND THE HP OF A SR..


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