Oh! i wish your suspension dvd is done tomorrow.i need to soak my brain with it.JDS Performance wrote:No worries - I will have a complete s13-s14 suspension install DVD out really soon - keep your eyes peeled!
This write - is ok - but I do all mine for the noobs - as thats who needs these write-ups anyways!
If your gonna spend the time doing a write-up or video - do it right - and make sure everyone can understand fully - or else your wasting your time.
Energy Suspension Bushing Install Guide! **Sticky ME!
Re: re: (JDS Performance)
I'm currently working on finishing up my install. I will say that the press I bought is completely useless.
Tools you will need to make life easy...-torch-vice grips-sawzall-dremel-hammer-flat screw driver or chisel-8" clamp
I ended up lighting the bushing on fire, then grabbed the center metal piece with the vice grips, and twisted it out. Then I put the sawzall through the hole and cut the sleeve in a couple of places. Banged it out with screw driver and hammer. Rear urethane bushings need to be cut in half, no way to get them in with out cutting them.
The second I stopped using the press everything came together quickly and with out any problems. I finished the entire driver's side rear in the amount of time it took me to do the entire front including the steering rack and tie rod ends.
Tools you will need to make life easy...-torch-vice grips-sawzall-dremel-hammer-flat screw driver or chisel-8" clamp
I ended up lighting the bushing on fire, then grabbed the center metal piece with the vice grips, and twisted it out. Then I put the sawzall through the hole and cut the sleeve in a couple of places. Banged it out with screw driver and hammer. Rear urethane bushings need to be cut in half, no way to get them in with out cutting them.
The second I stopped using the press everything came together quickly and with out any problems. I finished the entire driver's side rear in the amount of time it took me to do the entire front including the steering rack and tie rod ends.
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Re: re: (pat93)
It should be finished before Xmas - we start filming next weekend
On a related note...
Like every 240 owner I have lots of excess parts laying around the garage. While trying to do my bushings I discovered that one of the parts from the motor can be used to pop out the sleeves in the control arms etc.
The large gear on the ka24de just below the cam gears is two parts. You need the part from the rear of that gear that the gear itself spins on. Remove that part. It is the right diameter to rest on the edge of the collar. Put a couple of cuts in the collar, put this part in the hole, pound a few times with the hammer, and the collar should pop right out. I can post a pic if you have no idea what I am talking about.
Like every 240 owner I have lots of excess parts laying around the garage. While trying to do my bushings I discovered that one of the parts from the motor can be used to pop out the sleeves in the control arms etc.
The large gear on the ka24de just below the cam gears is two parts. You need the part from the rear of that gear that the gear itself spins on. Remove that part. It is the right diameter to rest on the edge of the collar. Put a couple of cuts in the collar, put this part in the hole, pound a few times with the hammer, and the collar should pop right out. I can post a pic if you have no idea what I am talking about.
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Re: (98s14inaz)
Our bushings and video is finished check them out @http://www.NIPerformance.orghttp://www. ... CHDVDS.org
Re: (JDS Performance)
I bought the RSR urethane bushing kit from Ebay...
It has every bushing on the car..and was 220$ shipped.
-FLCA Bushings-TC rod Bushings-Front and rear sway bar bushings AND endlink Bushings-RCA Bushings-Rear subframe inserts-Steering rack and pinion Bushings
They really are fine..You dont need adjustable TC rods unless you want more caster..and S13's are pretty well set for it stock..And sway bars dont really need to be replaced if you are going with a higher rate spring/coil over. All a sway bar does is artificialy ramp up your Spring rate when it flexes against the control arm during cornering.
So yea..The bushings are a good investment. I plan on keeping my stock swaybars...maybe just put in some beefier endlinks.
There is def a HUGE diff from going from old stock and nasty bushings to full new and awesome urethane bushings.
A guy i know put them on his S13 and it was like adding 4kg spring rate to the car and the TC rod bushings omg..When i installed them..the trackability and steering response was unreal
I also bought my Set from FRsports ebay store. I highly recommend this bushing set.
Modified by Chukidori at 5:51 PM 11/24/2007
It has every bushing on the car..and was 220$ shipped.
-FLCA Bushings-TC rod Bushings-Front and rear sway bar bushings AND endlink Bushings-RCA Bushings-Rear subframe inserts-Steering rack and pinion Bushings
They really are fine..You dont need adjustable TC rods unless you want more caster..and S13's are pretty well set for it stock..And sway bars dont really need to be replaced if you are going with a higher rate spring/coil over. All a sway bar does is artificialy ramp up your Spring rate when it flexes against the control arm during cornering.
So yea..The bushings are a good investment. I plan on keeping my stock swaybars...maybe just put in some beefier endlinks.
There is def a HUGE diff from going from old stock and nasty bushings to full new and awesome urethane bushings.
A guy i know put them on his S13 and it was like adding 4kg spring rate to the car and the TC rod bushings omg..When i installed them..the trackability and steering response was unreal
I also bought my Set from FRsports ebay store. I highly recommend this bushing set.
Modified by Chukidori at 5:51 PM 11/24/2007
We have installed about 4 sets of bushings, front and rear. My recommendation to you... go to the junkyard and grab a set of arms. Because if you drive a DD and go replace the bushings, especially if it is your first time, it will take all day...
Here are some pics...
Use MAPP gas to remove the rubber (way hotter than propane), a hack saw to remove the ring (or a press). It takes a while to get it down pack.
Here are some pics...
Use MAPP gas to remove the rubber (way hotter than propane), a hack saw to remove the ring (or a press). It takes a while to get it down pack.
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Re: re: (JDS Performance)
Do you give away your DVDs??JDS Performance wrote:No worries - I will have a complete s13-s14 suspension install DVD out really soon - keep your eyes peeled!
This write - is ok - but I do all mine for the noobs - as thats who needs these write-ups anyways!
If your gonna spend the time doing a write-up or video - do it right - and make sure everyone can understand fully - or else your wasting your time.
If you think your advice is worth $x.xx, thats cool. But dont degrade another member's public contribution.
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Re: re: (hannibal)
It was not my intension to "degrade" anyone - I was merely expressing my thoughts - just like you are doing nowhannibal wrote:Do you give away your DVDs??
If you think your advice is worth $x.xx, thats cool. But dont degrade another member's public contribution.
I have many people that would say I am a great contributer in the community...
I understand how you are thinking - but the way it works is - either search your eyes out while getting bashed for asking "noob" questions - or check out my videos - not saying they have all the answers and are the bible or anything - but help is help - plus I will answer anyones questions that ask me - as much as my knowledge will let me.
Dont hate - contribute - if you think its so easy and a contirbution to the community - then you make videos and give them away for free
Agin if I "degraded" anyone I am sorry - it was not my intension to do so!
Re: re: (JDS Performance)
I have a tip for you guys doing your bushings. Heat the OUTSIDE of the control arm area where the bushing is located. Do NOT point the bushing twoard your body. It will start to smolder and get warm enough to push out. If you get it hot enough it may shoot out.
Very little smoke and mess, be careful. This is still much better then flaming rubber goo everywhere.
I have done four master sets on different cars and it works like a champ everytime.
Evan
I really feel this is worth your while if your serious about suspension.
Very little smoke and mess, be careful. This is still much better then flaming rubber goo everywhere.
I have done four master sets on different cars and it works like a champ everytime.
Evan
I really feel this is worth your while if your serious about suspension.
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Re: re: (240z4u)
Could you MS Paint a picture of them? I'm still not exactly sure where on the arm you're talking about?240z4u wrote:I have a tip for you guys doing your bushings. Heat the OUTSIDE of the control arm area where the bushing is located. Do NOT point the bushing twoard your body. It will start to smolder and get warm enough to push out. If you get it hot enough it may shoot out.
Very little smoke and mess, be careful. This is still much better then flaming rubber goo everywhere.
I have done four master sets on different cars and it works like a champ everytime.
Evan
I really feel this is worth your while if your serious about suspension.
Re: Energy Suspension Busining Install Guide! **Sticky ME! (Kenrik)
I did the front end bushing install on my S13 and found your write up useful but I noticed one problem. On the lower control arm, one side is flat and the other side has a raised lip. The bushing has a thick side and a thin side, the thick side has a slot on the back side of it to fit over the rasied lip on the control arm, in your picture you are showing the bushing installed backwards. I also do not like the idea of burning out the bushings and cutting with a sawzall and beating sleeves out so I spent 100 bucks on a 12 ton shop press which made the job a breeze besides I don't think the bushings on the rear will go in without being pressed in.
Re: Energy Suspension Busining Install Guide! **Sticky ME! (Johnboy2s)
where'd you buy the 12 ton shop press? is the 6 ton shop press enough? i assume it's enought because 1 ton is about 2,200 lbs. i just want to make sure I buy the right tool.thanks.Johnboy2s wrote:I did the front end bushing install on my S13 and found your write up useful but I noticed one problem. On the lower control arm, one side is flat and the other side has a raised lip. The bushing has a thick side and a thin side, the thick side has a slot on the back side of it to fit over the rasied lip on the control arm, in your picture you are showing the bushing installed backwards. I also do not like the idea of burning out the bushings and cutting with a sawzall and beating sleeves out so I spent 100 bucks on a 12 ton shop press which made the job a breeze besides I don't think the bushings on the rear will go in without being pressed in.
Re: Energy Suspension Bushing Install Guide! **Sticky ME!
so does anyone have any tips on doing the rear lower control arm bushings? does cutting them in half cause the bushing not to work as well etc.? im having a hell of a time trying to push in the rlca bushings...got one, already ruined one, with a new one on the way, and would like to get this done as soon as possible. if i can cut them without causing any problems, thats what i'll do i just need feedback