Emance, JWT, or Enthalpy for an ECU tune?

[chi0082]

I'm planing on getting my ECU tuned for my KA-T project, but can't decide on who to go with. Does anyone recommend one over the other and why? And are Emance tunes reliable? I've heard some good and bad things about him and am a little skeptical. Can someone chime in on his tunes and the quality of them? Thanks!

Moderator Edit, Don't buy Emance. Do a thorough search on Nico and Google for more information. Buyer beware. WD

[240sxvaj]

I just got my e-mance ecu tune and damn i am satisfied for the price i got it for. i was running an AFCneo and went through two dyno shop and still not satisfied with my gas mileage, plus the way the afc was running was crap. Big difference when i installed the ecu, the car revved really good, the cars response was the biggest gain i got from this tune, honestly i havent check to see how much my mpg improve. this is my daily driver so the most concern was the mpg while still obtaining the max power at WOT. i really recommend this tune. Honestly if money wasnt an issue i'd go with the Enthalpy since many people have proven that it works, but after running with the e-mance i am fully satisfied. i actually drove all the way to SD to see if jason was real, and he is turned out really cool guy.

One reason why i went e-mance was because this one guy on this forum is running t28 and running in the 12's 1/4mile with e-mance.

If you are looking for a inexpensive tune, that will give you good mpg with power then he is the guy for you. also it has timing control so it is reliable. Hopefully this helps

sorry typed so much

[eazye2000]

Emance FTW!!

12.6 ET at 113mph and get 27-28mpg.

[480sx]

EZ, is that with no AFC correction?

[boker240]

i got a jwt ecu tune for $615. just had it dynoed, 300 hp's @ 14 psi and -4 to +4 correction from like 4500-6000,so basically he minimally tuned out to 11.5 afr. it was really close allready hence is why it still runs after a year of being turboed without a dyno tune.

[AZhitman]

None of the above.

Bikirom or Megasquirt. Both awesome.

[S13xCrazy]

Emance FTW!!

12.6 ET at 113mph and get 27-28mpg.

all day long baby

Jason's a good guy, and does great work for the low, low price he offers

[WDRacing]

None of the above.

Bikirom or Megasquirt. Both awesome.

Not bad for an experienced tuner Greg, but MS is far from bug free. I have read far more horror stories then success stories.

For a plug and play experience I'd go with Emance, he's small bussiness and the customer service is rated at a 10. To me that's more then enough to insure my bussiness right there.

It's just hard to pay $500+ for a ECU when $150 will get you the same thing...lol.

WD

[eazye2000]

I agree. Stand-Alone is an awesome way to go.

But if you want Plug-and-Play, Emance/JWT/Enthalpy is the way to go. My choice obviously is Jason at Emance.

EZ, is that with no AFC correction?

I have an SAFC hooked up. Totally stock, running what I am 'supposed' to be running, it runs just fine. AFR's are in check.But when I turn up the boost, the AFR's get a little RICH actually. He tunes it for the flow of air. So turning up the boost, will increase the fuel automatically. Same thing with retarding timing I suppose.I had the thing hooked up to a Blazt consult cable, and my buddy datalogged a bunch of stuff at different PSI's. He compared it to his Enthalpy tune, and was very much satisfied with that I had.

I lean out the SAFC at cruise to gain a bit better gas mileage. Only just barely into the 15's. It actually bounces from 14.6-15.2 at cruise.

Just my $.02

[480sx]

Not bad for an experienced tuner Greg, but MS is far from bug free.

MS2 with the MS extra code is the sickest tuning device i have ever seen or heard of. It has so many options that can save your motor, and help you tune it with ease. There are no more bugs with the MS Extra code + DSM Dizzy for the Ka. The miss timed fires on startup cranking RPMs was the only bug with my setup, and that has been solved after swapping out the dizzy(the ka only has one slat in the dizzy wheel, making it so reading low/jumpy cranky RPMs was impossible).

-Autotune uses a wideband to fill your fuel map when you fill out a target afr/map map. -Built in knock control -Full timing/fuel control -Base fuel map generation based on injector size + displacement. -Ability to cut the engine if the map sensor reads a value past desired boost limit. <---- Coolest sht ever. No more overboosts, EVER, built right into your ECU. -A ton of awesome stuff i cant even remember

However MS requires a lot of patience and down time to get wired and running right. Dont underestimate this statement, im serious, MS will own you. It is not for the faint of heart. For this reason alone its not the ideal daily driver ECU. You will have a good amount of downtime when getting this thing to work.

[EH240SX97']

There is another option. EFI SPECIALIST. I just ordered one for my 97 S14. I can't say enough for it. No wiring conversion harness needed. Kheim is an awsome guy and his customer service is second to none.

[ghx407]

I've got EFI SPecialist too, it's awesome.

[Tyler]

i believe emance will be doing mine

[D-UNIT]

Anyone heard of CalumSult. I was heard of it last week.

[chi0082]

So with ECU tunes....like say if I was to go with Emance, would I need to pull out my ECU and send the whole thing to him. And then he would tune it and send it back to me and I just plug and go? Am I missing something? Is there something else I need to know?

[240sxvaj]

Thats all there is to it, but i dont recommend installing one without making sure you have a wideband, because i just blew my motor with this tune, I cant blame anyone because i dont know if it was the tune or something else was messed up. Worst was i didnt have a wideband.

[s14det]

Anyone heard of CalumSult. I was heard of it last week.

CalumSult ECU is the bomb digity!!!!

Lets you tune your own car and he will put a tune on there for you. After that you can get a laptop and get your hands dirty with tunning or take it to a dyno and have someone tweak the tune. It is the best $350 I have ever spent. Had issues for over a year and bought this and fixed all my driving issues in like 20 min. CalumSult is my hero

[eazye2000]

....would I need to pull out my ECU and send the whole thing to him. And then he would tune it and send it back to me and I just plug and go?

As far as the EMance is concerned:You can do that if you choose. Or, he can send you the board, with chips installed. And you can either solder it in yourself, or go to a local TV or Electronics Repair Shop, and they can solder it in. **One thing to remember** If you choose to do it yourself, follow the directions that are included, and on his website as well. You WILL need to un-solder, and then re-solder a jumper across one point. It's very simple. But if you don't do this, the ECU WILL NOT access the new board and tunes. It will still be accessing the OLD/STOCK maps. So if you go boosting thinking you're ok....you're not.

Thats all there is to it, but i dont recommend installing one without making sure you have a wideband, because i just blew my motor with this tune, I cant blame anyone because i dont know if it was the tune or something else was messed up. Worst was i didnt have a wideband.

^Did you jump the jumper like you were supposed to? Who installed the board for you?

CalumSult ECU is the bomb digity!!!!

Lets you tune your own car and he will put a tune on there for you. After that you can get a laptop and get your hands dirty with tunning or take it to a dyno and have someone tweak the tune. It is the best $350 I have ever spent. Had issues for over a year and bought this and fixed all my driving issues in like 20 min. CalumSult is my hero

^ This depends on which tune/ECU combo you purchase. He does have a Real Time board, that lets you adjust On-the-Fly. It's still a 'stock ECU' in a sense, but none the less, tunable. I don't think it's anywhere near the 'stand alone', though. Like, you can't tune with a MAP sensor, or add coil packs to your engine.

If you want to mess with tuning your own ECU, buy a PLMS board, and a dozen chips. Get the Moates Burn 1 burner, and have at it. It's the cheapest route to tuning your own ECU. You can use Tuner Pro, or any other ROM tuning interface.

But for you guys who want plug and play, the options are out there. Along with the results, and reviews of the people who have used them.

Another $.02 of my worthless opinion. Someone please correct me if I'm spewing BS.... again....

[D-UNIT]

CalumSult ECU is the bomb digity!!!!

Lets you tune your own car and he will put a tune on there for you. After that you can get a laptop and get your hands dirty with tunning or take it to a dyno and have someone tweak the tune. It is the best $350 I have ever spent. Had issues for over a year and bought this and fixed all my driving issues in like 20 min. CalumSult is my hero

Are you serio.us? Is it that good. My friend was going off on it. Something about changing anything you want timing maps, boost maps , rev limits , speed cuts , ignitions maps on the fly. All by yourself. I'm looking into it cuz my friend said my car is going to run like crap when my JWT goes in.

[240sxvaj]

^Did you jump the jumper like you were supposed to? Who installed the board for you?

Another $.02 of my worthless opinion. Someone please correct me if I'm spewing BS.... again....

I visited Jason and he installed the board for me, he first thought i had a sr so he retuned it for my ka-t25. I hope he did the timing correctly. Should i ask him to double check my tune, as of right now i am planning to rebuild, and i dont want to see another blown motor.

by the way how much did it cost for your whole motor build(pistons, rods, etc.)?

[elpiar]

I am also a satisfied customer of calum realtime ECU. Calum is kinda hard to reach lately though... i think he really should be more organized in the way people contact him.

[s14det]

Are you serio.us? Is it that good. My friend was going off on it. Something about changing anything you want timing maps, boost maps , rev limits , speed cuts , ignitions maps on the fly. All by yourself. I'm looking into it cuz my friend said my car is going to run like crap when my JWT goes in.

I'm pretty sure it is the same thing that JWT and other use for tuning. You can change everything in the stock ECU. You can NOT, like other mention, use a MAP or coil packs. I 'm not planning to go that route so did not really care about that. Also if you already have a tune, Calum can copy that to your ECU. That is what I did and then tweaked it to run like a champ. The Realtime ECU also use Tunerpro RT software (free). You can tune as you drive sort of speak. Driver not included It is like a Mini stand-alone ECU, not quite a full standalone but close enough for $350.

[KFL]

Quick question..does the ecu have to be a manual or can it be auto ecu.

[240sxvaj]

Quick question..does the ecu have to be a manual or can it be auto ecu.

IF you're talking about E-mance, you can reach him by [email protected] names jason and very helpful guy.

[carkook]

Im 17 and am going to go ka-t eventually and trying to read as much as i can and gain knowledge. So if i were going to get an e-mance tune it would just be plug n play? i wouldnt have to retard the timing or anything? Just plug the ecu back in and go?

[240sxvaj]

Im 17 and am going to go ka-t eventually and trying to read as much as i can and gain knowledge. So if i were going to get an e-mance tune it would just be plug n play? i wouldnt have to retard the timing or anything? Just plug the ecu back in and go?

It should be stock timing which is at 20. if you're afraid you might mess up something then send your Ecu to e-mance they can solder everything for you. Make sure you have a wideband to monitor afr or dyno shop. The ecu is plug and play.

If there are some rich points or lean points then you can get a dyno chart with afr and send it to jason and he will be able to fine tune the ecu for maximum power.

[zerepdivad]

I just sent my ecu out to jason at emance and i'm hoping for the best. I'll definitely post back up on how it goes for me.

[240sxvaj]

sounds good, keep us updated.

[240man91]

man i got a emance tune to for my ka a it works great no problems lots of peopl dog him but go read his feed back for his tunes i think i read one that was bad an he fixed it for free!!!!! i got mine done for 170 best money ever spent i run 10psi just fine pulls hard an comes down easy real good guy will work with him more

[WDRacing]

He gets dogged because he has had serious customer service issues in the past, has sold tunes ripped off from other tuners and sometimes his work was less then quality. Search around and talk to more then the guys that need a quickie tune for cheap money.

Maybe he's turned around, I haven't heard anyone even mention this guy in over a year. Buyer beware IMHO. EFI Specialists have a few reliable tunes for pretty cheap these days as well.

WD