Eibach Springs for the Altima Coupe

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SHIFT_COUPE wrote:Just talked to Eibach. These aren't available for the Coupe until December approximately. The rep said they are in "development status" and couldn't tell me any other specs on them, as in specific drop amount.
Shift_Coupe is right. I called Eibach about two weeks ago before this thread came out and they said the same thing to me also. It's still in development and no information about them at this time but they should be out by December, January at the latest.

My big question is does anyone know if installing these springs will void the factory warranty? I know when I lifted my FJ Cruiser, a lot of people on the forums, even a license Toyota mechanic said that the lift will only void the warranty if Toyota can prove that the lift made a certain "thing" go bad. but installing the lift itself will not void the warranty.

I wonder if it's the case with Nissan. If we got these installed in our coupes, and say the ball joint went bad, Does Nissan have to prove that the installation of the Eibach springs was the cause of the ball joints to go bad therefore voiding the warranty? IMO, it shouldn't and Nissan has to prove that the installation of the springs was the root cause of a specific part going bad.


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I have sportlined my previous 97 neon, prokitted my 04 SRT neon, then sportlined my Mustang GT, the A/C will see sportlines. SAY NO TO WHEEL GAP imo

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I ran Sportline and Pro-Kit in the past. S/L will make any car look better, but I prefer the ride of the P/K. S/L here in Hawaii will get you cited unless you have a recon permit. Most people can't tell with P/K on, so you never have to worry about getting pulled over.

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i was looking at the pro kit eibach springs and it says that its a 1 inch and 1.5 inch drop on stillen. im assuming the 1.5 inch is in the front and the 1 inch in the back. my 07 sedan has 18 inch wheels and 50 series tires with about a 1.5 inch gap in the rear and about a 2.5inch gap in the front. with my wheel specs and the prokit specs will my rear tires rub? ive nevered lowered a car before. thanks

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Wow, you're running 50's on 18s? Isn't your tire diameter a bit tall? How wide are your wheels and what's the offset? I'm on 18x8 w/225-45-18 +45 and I would easily clear 1.5" in the back and probably 2.5" up front.

By the way, Pro-Kit is an even drop all around. They list as 1" to 1.5"not 1" AND 1.5". It's unfortunate how the Altima suspension is designed, leaving that huge space in the front.

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generic808 wrote:Wow, you're running 50's on 18s? Isn't your tire diameter a bit tall? How wide are your wheels and what's the offset? I'm on 18x8 w/225-45-18 +45 and I would easily clear 1.5" in the back and probably 2.5" up front.

By the way, Pro-Kit is an even drop all around. They list as 1" to 1.5"not 1" AND 1.5". It's unfortunate how the Altima suspension is designed, leaving that huge space in the front.
my wheels are 18x7.5 with a 42 offset and my tires are 235/50. yeah i thought that 50s would be to big also, but it doesnt look that bad at all and the ride is still pretty smooth. with my wheels and tires it doesnt leave much wheel gap in the back. it looks like im hauling dead bodies in the trunk making the front end raise up a little bit. i hate the wheel gap in the front.

yeah, i just went back to stillen and it does say that. does the prokit drop it the same in the front and in the back? or do they take in to account that the front end has a bigger wheel gap? sorry for all the dumb questions, ive always been in to modding cars but never had a car that was actually worth doing anything to.

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OK...I've read this entire thread and no one has really address these two issues. Yeah yeah, the pro kit is better if you want to maintain the factory ride feel and the sportline is to bouncy. OK, that has been repeated over and over again in this post. But here are the two main issues that I think everyone is over looking and hopefully, nissantech06 can answer for us or for that matter, anyone!

It's been posted by nissantech06 that the warranty is voided if these springs are installed HOWEVER, he also says:
nissantech06 wrote:but since Nissan has known problems with struts I wouldn't recommend it.
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So this statement goes back to what I previously stated which was:Does Nissan have to prove that the failure of ANY component was a direct CAUSE of INSTALLING the ProKit?

Second Issue: Will the installation of the Eibach Prokit drop the center of gravity of the car far enough that an aftermarket camber kit (ie. Ingals) need to be installed on both the front and rear?

You can always tell a (at least I can) when a car is dropped right. We've all seen those ricey looking civics slammed to the ground and their wheels all pointing inwards because of the drop. These are the same idiots that will be buying new tires every other month and have a kazoo welded on the tailpipe that makes them think they're and extra from the movie Tokyo Drift.

I know when I installed Neuspeed springs that had a 2" drop in the front and back on my 99 Acura CL, it changed the center gravity line of the car that I had to install a set of Ingals camber kits to straighten out the wheels. I didn't know it at the time but Acura's don't come with Camber adjustments. They are actually preset at the factory. Is this the same with the Nissan Altima coupes or do they have camber adjustments?

Lastly, because of nissantech06's previous statement of Nissan knowledge of having known problems with their struts, would it behoove us all to also upgrading the shocks and struts of the coupe since the springs are being replaced?..oh and camber kit if necessary.

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Kits that drop 2" plus will need a camber kit. Eibachs won't need it with the drop they provide. The Pro-kit springs have a different drop rating for each vehicle. For my Maxima they were 1.3" front and 1" rear; 2004+ Maxima they are 2" front and .8" rear.

Pro-Kit springs are relatively stiff. With up-sized rims and low profile tires they will be jarring on bumps while "smooth" on regular roads. You will also notice a bit of "skittering" in the rear over rough turns (aggressive driving). While it is not absolutely necessary to replace the factory struts you will need to at some point (my factory struts were kept on for 2 years with the Eibachs before I upgraded to Illumina's).

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Simple solution to your question; Just keep your factory springs and should anything go wrong, reinstall them. There is no drilling or modifications needed to install aftermarket springs.

I ran Pro-Kit for over 3 years on factory suspension and didn't have the need to upgrade. I sold the car and I know the guy after me had it for at least a year without doing anything to it. I also didn't have any camber wear whatsoever with a 1" inch drop so I don't think that will be an issue.

Oh yeah, most people will not be able to tell that the car is dropped unless parked next to a stocker. The drop is subtle but it makes a huge difference in asthetics.

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dangeris wrote:OK...I've read this entire thread and no one has really address these two issues. Yeah yeah, the pro kit is better if you want to maintain the factory ride feel and the sportline is to bouncy. OK, that has been repeated over and over again in this post. But here are the two main issues that I think everyone is over looking and hopefully, nissantech06 can answer for us or for that matter, anyone!

It's been posted by nissantech06 that the warranty is voided if these springs are installed HOWEVER, he also says:.

So this statement goes back to what I previously stated which was:Does Nissan have to prove that the failure of ANY component was a direct CAUSE of INSTALLING the ProKit?
YES. If you have blown struts AND aftermarket springs, they WON'T cover your warranty.


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