Eibach Group Buy!!!

[Voodoo Coupe]

WOOOOOHOOOO SPRINGS CAME IN TODAY! cant wait for the weekend so I can install them

Thanks again Stillen guys!

[rjdmmfl1]

One bad thing about California... I had to pay California Sales Tax... One GOOD thing about California...

I ordered on Monday Morning... Springs arrived Tuesday afternoon...

[generic808]

Yo Rob, stop complaining about sales tax! We have to pay $50+ for shipping, so consider yourself lucky! Not to mention $7/gallon for milk, $3.60+ for gas, and everything else that is OVERPRICED here!

Boo on you mainlanders!

[skiski329]

AHHHHHHHHH I am sooo mad I don't know if it was stillen or ups but I logged on to check the stats and I saw this "POSTAL CODE LISTED FOR THE RECEIVER IS INCORRECT. UPS IS ATTEMPTING TO OBTAIN CORRECT POSTAL CODE AND COMPLETE DELIVERY" I called and they had my zip code wrong and then they told me that I would get my package tomorrow!!! this sucks I had to beg 2 weeks ago to get an appointment at my shop to get my springs in. and tomorrow I will not be home till late. and like always the ups guy will not leave the package . so now I don't know when I will be able to get my springs on my car

[loufoooo]

so just to get some clarification... exactly how bouncy will the ride quality be? pretty much stock right?

[Mr. Music]

...and then they told me that I would get my package tomorrow!!! this sucks I had to beg 2 weeks ago to get an appointment at my shop to get my springs in. and tomorrow I will not be home till late. and like always the ups guy will not leave the package...

I wasn't home when UPS delivered my Injen intake, and the UPS guy threw it over my side fence and left a note on my front door. So, if you have a fence or something of the sort, they should be there.

[rjdmmfl1]

so just to get some clarification... exactly how bouncy will the ride quality be? pretty much stock right?

***edit****well you have a 2.5 S Coupe , and since the stock suspension is pretty stiff on the coupe , I imagine it will still be just about as stiff with the Eibachs...
Modified by rjdmmfl1 at 8:01 PM 3/4/2008

[skiski329]

I wasn't home when UPS delivered my Injen intake, and the UPS guy threw it over my side fence and left a note on my front door. So, if you have a fence or something of the sort, they should be there.

I have had packages delivered ups and if i am not home then he wont leave it (still pissed everything was planed perfect)

[Team STILLEN]

I have had packages delivered ups and if i am not home then he wont leave it (still pissed everything was planed perfect)

I've had really good luck with writing a note for the driver, and quoting the tracking number and where it's from, stating it's okay to leave, to leave it over the side fence (or other secure location), and signing it.

Could just be my driver, but the more info you give them, that you know it's coming, the better off you will be..

[skiski329]

cool thx

[D-Roll]

Woot! Out for delivery lol. Gonna install em Friday and plan on taking pics, possible write up too

PS-Springs just arrived!!
Modified by D-Roll at 6:48 PM 3/5/2008

[cuzzbubba420]

D-roll, got a quote for 200 for install at the shop you gave me!! This other idiot over here is trying to charge at least 275 so that's better. THANKS MAN!

[D-Roll]

D-roll, got a quote for 200 for install at the shop you gave me!! This other idiot over here is trying to charge at least 275 so that's better. THANKS MAN!

Kool! No problem bro, they are Nissan experts

[mcheddadi]

JUST ORDERED MY SPRINGS! (lol, I'm late, I know )

[miamicoupe]

I got mine today toooooo.....so went home on lunch time and I have the springs AND the exhaust on the trunk....ready to install them on friday..hehe.A note to all the guys on this forum, Stillen delivered what they promess, as a matter of fact, my order came before of what they eventually estimated....Josh, Nathan was very helpfull on all the process and I want everyone to know that WE got the springs when no one else has them thanks to this guys at Stillen.On the weekend I will post pictures if it doesn't rain.Thank you guys.

[skiski329]

YEA i got my springs today but when i decided to talk to my parents they were PISSED ( ). they talked about how i am taking a huge risk, and that the springs will f-up the car and can trigger the airbags. and that the extended warrantee was a waste. And then i got the you don't know the value of a $ speech (even though I work and pay off my car). Finally they pulled out their WMD (weapon of mass destruction) they said that they would take away my car and sell it. (i am still under 18) that got me mad. well i am happy that i got my springs but if any body has any idea how i can change my parents mind plz help (and remember they don't know much about cars and are very hard to change their minds). I really want to keep the springs

[Team STILLEN]

LOL.. I can guarantee we cleaned Eibach out..

This was fun, timing was perfect, it was our pleasure..

[windex]

YEA i got my springs today but when i decided to talk to my parents they were PISSED ( ). they talked about how i am taking a huge risk, and that the springs will f-up the car and can trigger the airbags. and that the extended warrantee was a waste. And then i got the you don't know the value of a $ speech (even though I work and pay off my car). Finally they pulled out their WMD (weapon of mass destruction) they said that they would take away my car and sell it. (i am still under 18) that got me mad. well i am happy that i got my springs but if any body has any idea how i can change my parents mind plz help (and remember they don't know much about cars and are very hard to change their minds). I really want to keep the springs

ROFL... sorry to laugh but its deja vu for me... ummmm It kinda depends on your parents. My mom was really anal about the SE-R that she bought for me. I got Intake and that was it. My coupe is 100% mine. Her name is no where on it, but she still feels like she can control my cash flow. (Yes i still live at home, apartments are a waste and i should have a house late this year). Anyway I just remind her of the $$ she wastes doing whatever she does to wastes money. But thats my mom. My dad was a gear head back in the day + his philosophy is its my money and my car. He cares not. Best thing you can do is talk to them, we've had the whole voiding warranty debate multiple times on here. Find one where a nissan tech is answering questions and show them. Everyones parents are different.

[rjdmmfl1]

YEA i got my springs today but when i decided to talk to my parents they were PISSED ( ). they talked about how i am taking a huge risk, and that the springs will f-up the car and can trigger the airbags. and that the extended warrantee was a waste. And then i got the you don't know the value of a $ speech (even though I work and pay off my car). Finally they pulled out their WMD (weapon of mass destruction) they said that they would take away my car and sell it. (i am still under 18) that got me mad. well i am happy that i got my springs but if any body has any idea how i can change my parents mind plz help (and remember they don't know much about cars and are very hard to change their minds). I really want to keep the springs

I think the best thing to do is point out the fact that with the springs, corneing becomes smoother and you are less likely to lose control due to decreased body roll. Although they have a cosmetic effect and they make the car look nice, lowering springs can actually make your car safer to drive! As long as the proper R&D has gone into them! Remind them that the same company that made these springs is the same company that makes springs that add to the safety of high performance race cars!

[skiski329]

hmmmmmmm great points i like it. should keep me alive for a while. LOL (jk) thx guys. (a great example why this forum is AMAZING).

[Team STILLEN]

I suppose I can try to help with the parents.. first modifying vehicles is always an eye-opener, especially if there is lack of information on how cars work, and what these products do.

It's like anything, if you're not comfortable with how things function, the idea of taking them apart, or modifying them in any way seems "scary". And it doesn't help that vehicle manufacturers have for years been using scare tactics, especially in regards to warranties, that in their words would almost immediately void any warranty or coverage due to the simplest of modification. Thats exactly why the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act was passed (you can google it for more information), to specifically protect against this.

The Magnusson-Moss Act specifies that a vehicle manufacturer must prove that the modifications to the vehicle caused any particular failure, before not approving a warranty repair. In other words, you lower the car, and the engine has a miss, it's obviously unrelated. Your warranty is perfectly valid by installing aftermarket parts.

To speak on lowering springs directly, it's one of the easiest modifications you can make, relatively easy to install (especially for a trained ASE mechanic), and offers significant aesthetic and performance improvement.

Eibach and others take time in their Research & Development to build a lowering spring that not only lowers the vehicle, but increases the spring rate, to ensure a balance between the lowering and suspension travel.

These are not just factory springs cut lower, these are progressive springs (you'll notice upon inspection that it's not linear in the coil, but rather starts off with additional space, and further towards the bottom of the spring is more compact) that are designed to start off mild, maintaining the ride control from factory, but when pushed and compressed deeper, will react with more stiffness, which you'd expect from a performance item.

I'll not write a novel, but the basic idea behind this particular modification is improving the abilities of the cars suspension, by lowering the center of gravity, and improving the handling ability, with minimal effect on the normal day to day driving. The car will be a bit stiffer, which is paramount in a well handling vehicle, but may not be acceptable to the masses (aka the grandma's of the world), so vehicle manufacturers don't build them that way, with the exception of much more expensive, sports cars in mind.

I hope this helps, this is a really simple explanation.

[alphapig]

lol

[Team STILLEN]

and the point I forgot to make..

Remember too that we sell these same products to hundreds of dealers across the country for installation on vehicles before they are sold. Thousands of sets of Eibach springs have been installed by dealerships and sold (yes.. at a very nice premium) to buyers who want to roll everything into their payment.

To bring that point home even further, we have sold a significant amount of superchargers, springs, shocks, sway bars, intakes, exhausts, urethane body kits, wheels, tires, etc for installation and sale, either by the consumers request, showroom vehicles, or dealer-prepped new cars.

You very well may have been able to purchase your exact vehicle from the same dealership with this (and other) products already installed. By doing these modifications on your own, you're saving a tremendous amount of money.

If Nissan dealers are comfortable selling supercharged 350Z's, lowering springs don't scare them, especially from a reputable manufacturer like Eibach.

[JLAUDIO85]

damn thanks for the info now i'll use that to my parents...

[dangeris]

I suppose I can try to help with the parents.. first modifying vehicles is always an eye-opener, especially if there is lack of information on how cars work, and what these products do.

It's like anything, if you're not comfortable with how things function, the idea of taking them apart, or modifying them in any way seems "scary". And it doesn't help that vehicle manufacturers have for years been using scare tactics, especially in regards to warranties, that in their words would almost immediately void any warranty or coverage due to the simplest of modification. Thats exactly why the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act was passed (you can google it for more information), to specifically protect against this.

The Magnusson-Moss Act specifies that a vehicle manufacturer must prove that the modifications to the vehicle caused any particular failure, before not approving a warranty repair. In other words, you lower the car, and the engine has a miss, it's obviously unrelated. Your warranty is perfectly valid by installing aftermarket parts.

To speak on lowering springs directly, it's one of the easiest modifications you can make, relatively easy to install (especially for a trained ASE mechanic), and offers significant aesthetic and performance improvement.

Eibach and others take time in their Research & Development to build a lowering spring that not only lowers the vehicle, but increases the spring rate, to ensure a balance between the lowering and suspension travel.

These are not just factory springs cut lower, these are progressive springs (you'll notice upon inspection that it's not linear in the coil, but rather starts off with additional space, and further towards the bottom of the spring is more compact) that are designed to start off mild, maintaining the ride control from factory, but when pushed and compressed deeper, will react with more stiffness, which you'd expect from a performance item.

I'll not write a novel, but the basic idea behind this particular modification is improving the abilities of the cars suspension, by lowering the center of gravity, and improving the handling ability, with minimal effect on the normal day to day driving. The car will be a bit stiffer, which is paramount in a well handling vehicle, but may not be acceptable to the masses (aka the grandma's of the world), so vehicle manufacturers don't build them that way, with the exception of much more expensive, sports cars in mind.

I hope this helps, this is a really simple explanation.

and the point I forgot to make..

Remember too that we sell these same products to hundreds of dealers across the country for installation on vehicles before they are sold. Thousands of sets of Eibach springs have been installed by dealerships and sold (yes.. at a very nice premium) to buyers who want to roll everything into their payment.

To bring that point home even further, we have sold a significant amount of superchargers, springs, shocks, sway bars, intakes, exhausts, urethane body kits, wheels, tires, etc for installation and sale, either by the consumers request, showroom vehicles, or dealer-prepped new cars.

You very well may have been able to purchase your exact vehicle from the same dealership with this (and other) products already installed. By doing these modifications on your own, you're saving a tremendous amount of money.

If Nissan dealers are comfortable selling supercharged 350Z's, lowering springs don't scare them, especially from a reputable manufacturer like Eibach.

I couldn't have said it any better! Another good point to make to your parents is at least you're not out there doing stupid things like drugs or buying alcohol Well, at least not that they know of... Luckily for me my wife doesn't give me flack when I buy things for my race bikes, or my car and I definitely don't call her out when she buys 3 bras from Vicky's that costs $150.00! Damn, did I learn my lesson the last time I did that!

[dangeris]

dropped my car off this morning to have the springs installed and aligned! The whole thing is only going to cost me $100! That's it.

I forgot to mention that I'm a personal friend of the mechanic and owner of the shop so I guess that helps out a bit too! It's all about contacts man...all about contacts!

[LongBeachCoupe]

I thought you decided against it? i had margaret lo pull mine off the UPS truck 2 weeks ago in the middle of the night because i was nervous about rubbing and mcheddadi had me scared to even attempt it... 245/35/20 38 offset... is it worth the attempt? or no...

Kyle- whats your take on it... think it can fit?2.5 with 245/35/20 38 offset ....

thx guys...

[rjdmmfl1]

I thought you decided against it? i had margaret lo pull mine off the UPS truck 2 weeks ago in the middle of the night because i was nervous about rubbing and mcheddadi had me scared to even attempt it... 245/35/20 38 offset... is it worth the attempt? or no...

Kyle- whats your take on it... think it can fit?2.5 with 245/35/20 38 offset ....

thx guys...

LBC, that's why you gotta follow all of the threads...lol...!!!I visited Blake (adidas2go) over the weekend, saw his ride with the drop, and after observing that...1. his 235/35/10 tires on 8" wide +45 offset wheels don't tuck under, yet don't rub either2. the ride quality under braking, accelerating, and cornering is definately improved and the look is extremely nice...

I stated on that thread that I was gonna purchase them..

Ordered Monday morning...the springs arrived Tuesday evening... installed then Wednesday afternoon!!!!

I know that both the 2.5 and 3.5 have "sport" suspension, but I don't know if they will handle the drop the same. The 3.5 fits perfectly with a drop, and I would imagine that the 2.5 would also. I'm running the SAME setup that you have, maybe even a few mm's further out, and I have tried going over bumps, speedbumps, inclined ramps, declined ramps, everything, and I have yet to rub.

So, as we stated earlier, although many folks, including myself, came out with tons of calculations, I always tried to qualify my statements with the additional statment that only testing the application would let us know for sure whether or not a drop is attainable w/out rubbing on various wheel/tire setups!

[LongBeachCoupe]

They are on already?!

I want to make sure i can still get em if they fit though... 2.5 difference? id be really bummed if i had them put on and then had to decide to sell them or the 20s...

i want to get the group buy if i can though and it will work... hmmm...
Modified by LongBeachCoupe at 12:17 PM 3/6/2008

[mcheddadi]

I thought you decided against it? i had margaret lo pull mine off the UPS truck 2 weeks ago in the middle of the night because i was nervous about rubbing and mcheddadi had me scared to even attempt it... 245/35/20 38 offset... is it worth the attempt? or no...

Kyle- whats your take on it... think it can fit?2.5 with 245/35/20 38 offset ....

thx guys...

LOL! hey don't listen to little old me anyways like I said a couple of post earlier, I just ordered the springs since Rob and Johnny where able to install without rubs over bumps.

for the 2.5S I really can't say much

Yo Rob, stop complaining about sales tax! We have to pay $50+ for shipping, so consider yourself lucky! Not to mention $7/gallon for milk, $3.60+ for gas, and everything else that is OVERPRICED here!

Boo on you mainlanders!

dude I'm getting 65$ shipping...

total price to canada is 254$