ecu tune, where??

[Tx-Sx-FS]

how much is it for a simple setup tune for the ecu? just a lil timing and fuel map for 12psi on T25

[480sx]

Youv got a few choices. Enthalpy IMO is the front runner, but really expencive. An Enthalpy tune recently made atleast 500 crank HP at 25 pounds of boost on a stock block.

There are a few others, including E-Mance, the ebay guy. More people are trying them, but you should do your own research. Oh and use the search button next time, you could have gotten your info there.

Price ranges from 200 to 500.

[S13xCrazy]

E-Mance charges about 135 right now if i am not mistaking.

[ppctx]

$135, thats hella cheap, how are their tunes working for people? after initial purchase, enthalpy "only" charges $150 for a retune if your setup changes and supposedly will cross ship the the retune for the old ecu, so no down time

a local shop here charges Dyno tuning - $150/hour (air-fuel included)Dyno 3 runs - $50 ($25 extra for air-fuel reading) http://alamoautosports.com/tun...bb4ad I have never been there but this is a place I know that does it (they also wanted to charge me $1000 if I provided all the parts to do my 5 speed swap, No Thank you, I got a socket set )

[eazye2000]

I'm personally running an E-Mance tune for my KA-DE.Got it tuned for a T2 flanged GT28RS .86 running 15 psi. Love it so far.I hooked it up to Nissan Data Scan in real time and did a few runs with it. The timing is spot on, and my AFR's only needed about a 3% adjustment with the SAFC to keep everything in check.125$ shipped to my door. I just had to solder it in. No big deal for myself. And he only charges 50$ for new chips/new tune. Plug and play. I'm not shooting for alot of power right now. Just want the car moving and able to be driven. So far, so good.

Hope this helps.

[GTR PrYdE]

Glad to hear it's his tune is running good. I will go with him as soon as I get some time to t25 turbo my s13

[Tx-Sx-FS]

so the E-Mance off ebay?? i see one for like $40, or should it be more and not the right chip??

[eazye2000]

I'm not sure what kind of 'chip' it is. It may be one for the 'E' motor. Just pop in an e-prom chip and go. Where as the 'DE' ECU needs a daughterboard soldered in. Then the chips plug into the daughterboard. I'm not totally sure. But here's a link to a link that has his KA-DE stuff in it.

zerothread?id=276133

[spooled240]

jim wolf tech. charges 695 for a retune of your ecu. Down time was like 6 weeks thoIt's very expensive but these guys have been in the biz for like 30 yrs so they know what they're doing. The ecu I got is an awesome tune, my engine will probably run forever lol.

But hell, if the e-mance works, go for it man. As a fellow cheap asss, I'd say go for something that fits your budget and application without risking your engine going boom of course. You can have a garrett turbo and hks this n that and all that brand name sh*t, but without a good tune it's all going to hell as you may already know

[eazye2000]

You can have a garrett turbo and hks this n that and all that brand name sh*t, but without a good tune it's all going to hell...

I think everything I have is some sort of cheap azz knock off... I did spring for a real Garrett 'Disco' turbo though.

[spooled240]

dude, i'm mr. knockoff ...ebay everything-from turbo, wg, turbo mani, intercooler, ic piping, exhaust, battery relocation. But I did the spring for the fueling/ timing w/ nismo injectors, n62 mafs, and the jwt chip so don't be hatin lol I cut many corners but I didn't I cut the most important corner of all imo: TUNING!

i painted my valve cover gloss black as well so I can tell ppl I have the "turbo blacktop", but in reality I have a stock ka with 120,000 miles and a bunch knock off parts O well, still hauls azz and runs great..
Modified by spooled240 at 11:50 PM 10/20/2007

[Zippy69]

hey spooled, how much power you makin'? I am installing a t-25 set up with 550's and an E-mance tune. I don't have a dyno near so I won't have a clue as to power output. I figure @250-280 at 10-12 psi but I won't know for sure.

[spooled240]

man i don't know, haven't dynoed it yet..I can give you a pretty good estimate. I guarantee that my car is faster than my dad's srt-4 which makes 230 whp. We did a 14.6 @ 97mph on the 1/4 mi with a slipping clutch and a hot azz nite. The srt-4 just about matched it(14.7 @98 mphish) and it's in brand new condition. I'm guessing that i'm making at least 240 rwhp at 9psi. Torque, maybe more cuz it pulls like crazy when I get full boost at 3,000 rpm's and you know the ka is a torque monster. I have a t3/t4 turbo which is pretty big so even at 9 psi i'm actually passing more air due to the bigger compressor wheel and housing. I wanna dyno it when I get some more money and maybe take it to the track then I'll post up a thread with all my specs and mods..

Your t25 should spool crazy fast at 10-12 psi compared to my t3/t4 and with the right tune(idk about e-mance but heard they are pretty good?) you should be at least 250 rwhp easily!! There's people out there that run the same boost but way different numbers and that's mainly due to tuning. If your car is running to rich/lean or not enough/too much timing you're just not using the full potential of the boost..You can be making 20psi and 200whp

[eazye2000]

You can be making 20psi and 200whp

Noooooo!!!!!

So my 18psi is only making 180whp?!?! Mother Fvcker!!!

[spooled240]

Is it?! that sucks azz man jkno i meant ANYONE could be making 200hp on 20psi with a bad tune.MY guess is that you're making around 250rwhp

That's probably about the saddest situation..spend over 3 grand on a high-boost turbo setup and not even breaking 200 hp..that's when you ask yourself.... !!!!!!

[Zippy69]

Don't worry spooled, I get what you mean.I don't have a dyno near so it will all be guess work. Everything I could find out about e-mance tunes were all good reviews, so hopefully mine will be good and I'll make some where between 250 and 280hp!

[Jookmasta]

went with enthalpy..........been boosted for 2.5 years now with no issues...............

[Tx-Sx-FS]

the T25 wont push more than 250whp, just wont...the turbo will heatsoak and die before that, at 16psi or possibly b4 depending on turbo condition...plus depending on MAFS and injectors used...if planning for more than 250whp, get bigger than 370cc injectors and SR or N62 MAFS.

[spooled240]

then at least a t3 for 250whp and up

[drape123]

I am that 'guy" from ebay.

I can pretty much tune for any SR/KA-T/KA SOHC setup, all the way up to 1000cc injectors.

I only charge $125 for nico members (if you let me know you're from nico) for a daughterboard/tune. you must install it yourself.

or you can send your ecu to me and i can do it for $165 shipped.

just trying to help the community!

[eazye2000]

There's that guy.....

Hey, while you're in here... Can you do the OBDI '95 KA ECU? Just wondering... It's an Auto ECU but I wanna go 5-speed eventually. Or go LS.. muahaha

Also, I got a daughterboard and chips from you for my S13 KA-T.. Did you remove the speed limiter? And also did you raise the Rev-Limiter? e-mail and paypal addy is e_appie (at) hotmail.com

I know we didn't talk about it via e-mail, but was just wondering if that was something you did regardless....

Thanks,Eric

[drape123]

There's that guy.....

Hey, while you're in here... Can you do the OBDI '95 KA ECU? Just wondering... It's an Auto ECU but I wanna go 5-speed eventually. Or go LS.. muahaha

Also, I got a daughterboard and chips from you for my S13 KA-T.. Did you remove the speed limiter? And also did you raise the Rev-Limiter? e-mail and paypal addy is e_appie (at) hotmail.com

I know we didn't talk about it via e-mail, but was just wondering if that was something you did regardless....

Thanks,Eric

Eric, of course i remember you, glad you're happy with the tune.

your speed limiter is removed, rev limit should be around 7k'ish? i say 'ish because it takes the ecu a half a second to really limit while under load.

btw, i don't tune obd1 s14/obd2 because nissan was 'testing' with obdII on the 95. i use a conversion harness instead. i am in the middle of a write up on how to make the conversion harness. it would be easy for you since you know how to solder. it's only 48 wires (stock 95 s14 has 60-70 wires) that is how much CRAP is eliminated by switching to s13 ecu.

[S13xCrazy]

Hey Jason (drape) If you get a chance can you shoot me an email at [email protected] ? haven't heard from you in a while.

Thanks,Tony

[spooled240]

man i wish I knew about emance about a year ago when i spent my azz on jwt..lol

why do you guys raise the rev limiter? is it so we can install an aftermarket rev limiter? Jwt removed mine and my car went into redline like crazy when my stock clutch slipped, kinda wish I kept it..

[matthunter8819]

that is pretty cool

[spooled240]

my dad was driving it actually, and he didn't even tell me it went into redline hell and back, he just told me to "get a revlimiter" haha.

That stock clutch disc was a glazed mofo lol

[eazye2000]

Eric, of course i remember you, glad you're happy with the tune. your speed limiter is removed, rev limit should be around 7k'ish? i say 'ish because it takes the ecu a half a second to really limit while under load.btw, i don't tune obd1 s14/obd2 because nissan was 'testing' with obdII on the 95. i use a conversion harness instead. i am in the middle of a write up on how to make the conversion harness. it would be easy for you since you know how to solder. it's only 48 wires (stock 95 s14 has 60-70 wires) that is how much CRAP is eliminated by switching to s13 ecu.

Hey, thanks for the info!

I've been trying to get the word out there. This guy is really helpful, and is willing to do what it takes to take care of you.I just need to get a consult cable and I'll be all set!