Well, here's one overview... not the most scientific source, persay, but take it as you will:PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:I don't exactly understand why people say it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than the ammount of energy that the ethanol yields. (takes more fossil fuel to make it). How is that even possible... and if it were correct, then why the hell is ethanol so damn cheap?p.s. this isnt a jab at anyone here, I've heard this other places too... I really want to know
You my friend are 100% correct, I just wanted to see if anyone attempted something like this here cause regardless sooner or later I will. And if anyone has, I wanted to see what problems they ran into to. Either way I'm going to start out simple and maybe in the next year or so Il have something more to work with .brokeAs240sx wrote:There is plenty of information out there (online & otherwise), you just have to seek it out.
Seriously doubt most of us have done anything productive w/ e85, etc. Closest we have done so far is alcohol injection . Look how long it took us to turbo our KA's, hee hee.S13FX wrote:You my friend are 100% correct, I just wanted to see if anyone attempted something like this here cause regardless sooner or later I will. And if anyone has, I wanted to see what problems they ran into to. Either way I'm going to start out simple and maybe in the next year or so Il have something more to work with .
yeah man Im in Germany right now and they have so much crazy stuff going on here. I was watching the deutsch version of pimp my ride or something, except it had nothing to do with MTV or the actual pimp my ride, but they took an old chevy blazer (Uber rare here) and "gepimped" it. They installed this huge *** tank thing that holds something that they call "autogas" and its this type of air that boost fuel economy when tied into the intake system. It might have been natural gas or something... not gonna lie there was a little lost in the translation, but it was Way cheaper than petroleum or deisel.FRSport wrote:
Seriously doubt most of us have done anything productive w/ e85, etc. Closest we have done so far is alcohol injection . Look how long it took us to turbo our KA's, hee hee.
If you want a better lead tho, check out the VW forums. I have a buddy w/ a VW and he's always mentioning the VW guys are trying to run all sorts of **** & building their own Bio-Diesel, etc equipment.
Old news, both rally cars and 1000 hp drag cars run E85 over here. Cheapest race fuel ever!S13FX wrote:Well first Im going to go with a little alchy kit then when I decide to rebuild another engine Im going to see about converting all my hoses and such so it can handle E85 with no problem, and see what I need to do to my internals.
But like I said E85 is the future performance fuel you heard it here first .
Just for the record, that's not too uncommon. Roots blowers don't have the cylinder pressures you find with centrifugal chargers and turbos. The compression happens internally, so the high CR isn't such an issue. Lots of Hondas have been running 10:1 CR and roots blowers (Jackson Racing) for many years.WDRacing wrote:Carcraft just did a blown SB on E85 article...E85 is the **** for a boosted motor. They were running a roots blower with 10.5:1 compression pistons...hello!!!!!
I hear your words, but I know what you really mean.WDRacing wrote:I have always hated you...
WDRacing wrote:E85 means lots of boost and no need to retard timing, or A TON of boost and some retard once you surpass say 15 lbs of boost. Just thinking about this makes me horny.
lol. I'd like to see someone try to get their 240sx running right on E85 with just an safc.WDRacing wrote:Wanna drive across the country, well even the safc has two maps you can use.