Dyno #rs On Rx-8

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well im sure most of you have heard all the controversey over the '247hp' rotary rx8. Well people were complaining these claims were even close to true, so they dropped the factory rating to 238hp, however, i have seen my first dyno number of hte 238hp 6spd rx-8, the peak hp..............188.8hp. Yep, thats it, now the 5spd auto is supposed to be rated at 21ohp, now judging by previous dyno numbers of the 6spd, if the auto's dyno numbers are off by that much, my altima would run with it! (exaggeration, i know, but even still)


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yeah, the claims sounded too good to be true in the first place. Isnt it the same size as the 13b just without the turbo :P

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yeah a recall is in place for them.. they are gonna give the ppl their money back.. if i owned one i would keep it and turbo it.. i think they look awsome

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the other night i went to tony romas for wings and beer, and i saw a black one in the parking lot. what a beautiful car, but if it only has 188 hp, it's not worth the money.

These cars should have 300hp.

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I cant wait to tell a buddy this.....hes been talkin BS bout how much better the rotary engine is and how fast they are...blah blah blah......OMG...how blown up are THOSE numbers?!?!

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SCC did a test on it in their latest issue(I got it today, and read the article about 10 minutes ago). The SCC folks also got 188 to the wheels. They mentioned that the computer messed things up by regulating a/f to keep the cat cool... and some deal with the abs.... you can read it when you get the issue, if you haven't received it yet

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210 crank hp from 6 speed?

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no, 238 crank hp from teh 6spd, 21o from the 5spd auto

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My buddy was gonna buy a Renises engine, turbo it and put it in his 93 rx7.

He might want to reconsider.

That news must make Nissan engineers and 350z owners SMILE:D

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how are they losing 50 ****in hp in the 6 speed... And why have they put a lower crank hp into the auto?

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well they're making the true enthusiasts grab the 6spd, and they dont lose 5ohp in the 6spd, they over rated the motor from teh factory, it never had 247 crank hp, however they still run 14.6 or 14.7 with the 6spd

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I mean, 50 hp driveline loss.

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i wanna know its real 1/4 mile speed and 0-60 speed.

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sad.

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I've test driven one I must say very nice! Very fun car to drive, I love the looks, not a fan of the two-tone leather package.. none the less still nice! and with that high redline and that navigation system it's pretty sweet. The engine rev's so well.. coming from driving a n/a KA, it's a huge difference. Ya it has no torque really, but it is faster than a stock KA 240sx, and it's not supposed to be a rocket. It's kind of a mid-age crisis car for guys with kids.

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Rotary engines are really cool. Not the end-all of engines, but very cool indeed.

It just makes me sad to see them getting such bad press on what really should be their comback debut.

Damn marketting.

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maybe they'll hurry up and stick a turbo on the motor, that's where the wankel gets any real good power, other than some of the crazy ports that'll destroy driveability

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188 huh and not to mention almost no torque.they do look *kinda* nice though, definately not as nice as the RX-7, yeah mazda crapped out on this car

hahaha he said wankel wankel wankel

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drop, now imagine it having more displacement say, 2.6L (1.3x2)... would put more than a few [NA] engines to shame... then again, that probablly runs into alot of design/cost issues.

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pstickne wrote:drop, now imagine it having more displacement say, 2.6L (1.3x2)... would put more than a few [NA] engines to shame... then again, that probablly runs into alot of design/cost issues.


According to Dave Coleman's Technobabble article about rotaries a few months back, technically it is a 2.6L. Each rotor has two combustion chambers, but Mazda only counts one per rotor. So it really is 2.6L. The big advantage is that displacement fits in a smaller package than it would w/ a piston motor. So when rotary guys brag about their specific output, they're bragging about Mazda's flawed displacement classification.

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groundhog day is totally correct about the displacement isue. Also the times on the rx8s withthe '238hp' 6spd is 14.5s to 14.6s

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188hp to the ground is still pretty decent for a stock 2.6 liter N/A motor :)

ka24de -> 2.4 liters -> 120-130 to the ground stock.

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The KA seems faster than It really Is because of the torque. Sometimes when I'm driving I think I'm really moving.. then I look at the speedo :( :(

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it does seem faster down low, however once u get over 55oo or so, the KA feels it has nothing, and Jspec Tuner is right, that isnt bad, but when they advertise its capable of 25o crank HP. And JSpec, did u go to NeedCA's house or something?, i see u have his distance from your house in your avatar

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they need to bring back the cosmo engine. that thing would be a rocket with the TT cosmo three rotor engine.

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nismodave wrote:That news must make Nissan engineers and 350z owners SMILE:D


I am sure the Nissan Engineers dont really car. Since they are probably too busy worrying about the Crank Angle Sensor recall. **** happens with the first Gen of car.

Mazda is Ford. And this sounds like a classic Ford ****-up.

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Cobra anyone?

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Cold_Zero wrote:I am sure the Nissan Engineers dont really car. Since they are probably too busy worrying about the Crank Angle Sensor recall. **** happens with the first Gen of car.

Mazda is Ford. And this sounds like a classic Ford ****-up.


Im just saying that the Rx-8 is supposed to compete with the Z and the Mazda is Grossly underpowered compared to the Z.

So what............ we know all ford products are unreliable.

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My Contour was reliable, but a piece of crap. It did nothing for me and was really uninspiring.

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I hate you all!:D

nothing wrong with 210 HP anyway!

well, except the fact that it is overrrated, It can run on hydrogen pretty easy and produce less power then though!


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