Driftworks pro handling pack & drivetrain

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jusadsoy
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Car: 1993 240sx coupe - stock - ka24de

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I am starting from a bone stock '93 coupe, and want an entire suspension and drive train before i build the motor. With the driftworks pro handling pack everything down to the track width is adjustable with the complete kit for a little less than $3500 shipped to my door from the UK. the only thing stopping me from placing the order now is that i cant find anyone saying anything about having this suspension on their car, but some saying the want the kit. is it work the risk? i know that driftworks is huge in the UK so id venture to guess they are trustworthy... input please?

the kit includes:
The top of the range Driftworks Control System 2 Coilovers
Driftworks four arm adjustable alignment arm kit - Rear camber, toe and traction rods, and front tension rods.
Driftworks solid subframe bushes
Driftworks rear upright poly bushes
Driftworks front and fear lower arms

and seeing as id be spending a grand alone on coilovers, im definitely okay with the price if the price is justified by the quality.




also ordering a shaft masters 1pc drive shaft, solid diff mounts, solid motor mounts, and solid trans mount this week :gapteeth:

and a wonderful friend is hooking me up with a pair of bride zeta 3 seats for $700 (half the new price per pair) :naughty:

went ahead and ordered XXR 530 17x8 +35 wheels today and will be here Friday wooooo!

gonna stay stock in the bay for a few weeks to reload the bank account seeing as im dumping so much into the suspension and drive train, but i am also picking up another ka24de for a turbo build to set on a stand in my garage and be wrenched on while i get used to how the car handles.

i am so incredibly excited that i can build this car, ive had several nissan's and this is the first one i am going all in on, im honestly considering cuttin a few other toys in my life to fund the build, but im not sure how necessary that will be just yet. also i havent post any pics yet, due to dropping a chunk of welding slag on my phone at work, melting the camera lense, i was singing in happiness that that is all that happened to my brand new phone. ill go buy a cheap camera this week to record the progress here, also working on a image hosting account :cool:


jusadsoy
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Car: 1993 240sx coupe - stock - ka24de

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the suspension package i am asking about

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The oh so damn sexy wheels i just ordered that will be here friday in 17x8 +35 offset

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and this is a not so clean version of what i want my coupe to be somewhat like, other than the smaller wheels and lack of a rocket bunny wing rear windsheild visor. definitely want these flares.

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Hijacker
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Car: '92 240sx Convertible
'94 F-150
Location: Fredericksburg, VA

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It's hard to find any reviews online, but the few I've found on build quality haven't been wonderful. There just isn't a lot of talk either way about them. The following review would make me question the QA of their adjustable bits. Just looking at your picture, the look like generic adjustable links to me and share a LOT of similar design with Megan Racing bits. I believe I remember seeing someone say the designs were copies of another company, but that's hearsay and supposition.

driftworks-r32-gtr-suspension-arms-anyo ... 12044.html

As for the coilovers, the internet seems to not have much disdain for them. Most forum goers seem to say "I have a mate running them and they're nice." There's simply no empirical data on performance, and for a $1500 mid range coilover, I'd expect some performance figures before I'd drop change on them.

Lastly, my personal opinion on poly bushings is that they are the devil. I'd rather put hard rubber bushings in versus poly bushings. The poly tends to bind easier and create what's known as stiction.

One of our mods did a great pair of vids showing the bind in his suspension using poly bushings and then a comparison after he installed hard rubber bushings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQSV7ur4_gM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1jOPee6o4M
-Poly bushings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6nBNDCHsPo
-MR rubber

I would always suggest trying to source Nismo rubber bushings over MR, but Nismo bushings are really slow to get over the water. I ended up going with SPL spherical bearings for my setup as I had but 3-4 months of wait time for the rubbers and they were still being held up somewhere in shipping from Nismo Japan with no word on when they'd arrive.

jusadsoy
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Car: 1993 240sx coupe - stock - ka24de

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From what i read so far on the kit, the Polly bushings are a replacement for the factory control arms, and if you opt to have the after market control arms in the kit as i will they are cancelled from the order. It seems as though everything else in the kit has spherical bushings, but I'll have to double check. I just really am a fan of having a complete matching set as opposed to a mixed set and nothing matching. Sounds dumb i know but that alone makes it worth the money to me with my super sense of o.c.d.

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I understand the sense of OCD on that. SPL arms all the way around for me. However, I'm going GKTech for the FLCA and RLCA. At least they're all black.

As far as the bushings go, they're including them to replace the bushings in the knuckle. So you'd have a spherical bearing on the arm where it connects to the subframe, and a poly bushing in the knuckle where the arm bolts up. Pretty standard setup. Delrin is an option as well that is better than poly as far as stiction goes, but I don't know of any company that makes press in replacements. I want to say someone at Nissan Road Racing was offering them at one point, but I dunno now.

I would look into what kind of spherical bearing driftworks uses (they'll call them rose joints, btw). Good quality bearings are usually made by FK Rod Ends, SKF Bearing, or QA1. If DW is open about their manufacturer of bearing, then you can be assured you can find replacements for when the bearings go bad. If they don't say who makes them, chances are they're a china brand that aren't made to any kind of industry standard size. All the china brand companies are notorious for that. That means once the bearing goes, the arm needs replacing.

I also just noticed they offer Hardrace product, too. That's the EU branding for Megan Racing, which would explain why the DW arms look identical to MR stuff.

CJH
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Location: Sheboygan WI

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I wouldn't get that suspension kit if it was me. I'd go with Stance. They sell a lot of high quality parts that are track proven and you can find a million review on them.

As far as wheel fitment goes, I have those exact wheels in a different size. 17x8 up front will be flush-ish with a stock body (ie no flares). If the rears are also 17x8, they will be sunken. The 17x9.75 sit flush-ish in the rear with a stock body. I run 17x9.75 all the way around, but to get a poke you need spacers. I needed spacers for the fronts to fit (9.75 +35 up front hits the suspension). I needed 17mm spacers to clear the front coilovers. I purchased 20mm spacers up front. S13 chassis front wheels stick out wider than the rear from the factory. It looks stupid, but it was how they were designed. So if you rock the same size and offset up front and in the rear, you can visually notice that the front is wider than the rear, which is not what you want. I got 30mm spacers in the rear to compensate for this. I didn't use fender flares, but I could have seeing as my rears stick out. I just rolled and pulled hard. If you want wheel fitment like in the picture above, you will need a setup like I have.

17x9.75 with 30mm spacers in the rear.
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Roll/pull
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Fronts were just rolled. Here is the final fitment. I like it. I could have used fender flares, but due to my OEM lip kit I thought this would look better.
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jusadsoy
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Car: 1993 240sx coupe - stock - ka24de

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I don't have slit of time right now to reply, but thank you for such an informative post. I don't want super wide tires I'm the rear until i get done with the turbo build, but i am working on a rear subframe setup that will fix my fitment problem. I'm not gonna go into details on the web but it could be a serious game changer because it hasn't been done, and if it goes like i plan I'll be having it patented. Stay tuned :)

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badbob2121
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I know a few local drivers using driftworks knuckles and arms with success.. But of course there are plenty of options out there that are available... And in the US..


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