Do not recommend Flash Options

Post by **slw240sx** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

Quote »At least , we're trying to solve the problem. Our shipping agency will pay for the mistake. No worries on that[/quote]

so when "alex" i dont know his fourmname! so when he gives the shipping agency or you, copys of the reciepts(sp?) for the customs hassles, and the transport of the motor to his home.. youll glady refund him the amount he spent on somthing he shouldnt have had to ? I know thats between you and him, but i feel the rest of the people interested on this should get to know also, that way they understand alittle more about your honesty and good intentions .... fair???

Quote »Please forgive me, i'm the only guy now doing work please forgive me and let me slowly clear things up[/quote]

maybe you should consult each customer independantly , and let them know your short staffed and that your working as fast as possible, also stop or slow down on taking on more orders untill your properly staffed to handle the amount of business your tryign to do !!! remember its quality not quantity that counts in this type of business!!

good luck and i hope you guys work things out sucessfully Jon

Post by **Sxse240** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

I could use a siliva floormat if you got one

Post by **Samabra** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

you know one thing I think here is that everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to bash FO here when the situation is still trying to be resolved, I know that if I had a bad buisness deal with a buisness/org member, I would wait until it WAS CLEAR THAT THE BUISNESS/ORG MEMBER WAS NOT GOING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE. Because its a little slanderous that people are coming on here blowing FO out of the water before the issue has been resolved. Its kinda putting the cart before the horse here. What we, as non-invovled org members should do it to step out of it, and instead of bashing FO prematurly, we should let the INVOLVED members and FO work out their problem. Then we can all jump on the bandwagon and say we hate/don't trust forign companies etc etc. I personally would by from FO. I've had businesses make mistakes with my orders before, and I'm sure it will happen again, but looking on the bright side of things, at least FO is contiuously persuing making the situation better. I mean with some companies your write, and call and you never hear anything back, at least these guys are trying to right the situation, and I think that in the interest of the FO, the invovled members, and the org, we who do not have direct participation in this buisness deal should step away. Chris

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

I think you might be taking FO's word for too much, and not really listening to what the experienced people in this scene are saying. I would just suggest giving a second read over the frist 4 pages of this thread for a little better explaination of the combination of shady business partners, being oversees, no gauranteed recourse, no quality control, no good word of mouth, being new to the scene, etc etc etc....

Some business's have a responsability to build up a good reputation on their own before making statements of quality etc, which FO has not done yet..and i think they are talking to much...do your thing, and word of mouth will speak for itself..give it a few years, and see what the consensus is...i know what it is now, but im not sure you want to hear that.

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

3 months ago I wanted to cut them some slack, I felt they might have been given a premature bad rep. But now after talking to literally a dozen people who have had major problems with them I cannot recomend them to anybody. The guy promises to help, and says he's taking care of it but I have yet to see any action. There are better places to buy a motor and I don't see why people would keep going back to him after they hear all these horror stories. It amazes me how dumb people are when they think they'll save $200. Is not having your motor for 4 months, getting the wrong motor, or not even getting a motor worth saving $400? You get what you pay for, and as far as the people who have been screwed in the last 2 months I have no sympathy for you. We all told you not to deal with them but you did anyhow. Some lessons in life you have to learn the hard way I guess.....

PaulOrlando, FL

Post by **rtsol** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

very true, some lessons need to be learned the hard way. but i think your being a little harsh. all these problems have not been resolved yet. i think it would be best to hold all abrasive comments till its said and done and me and the others are seriously screwed. dont get me wrong, i not exactly happy about what they are doing.

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

the thing is it seems to happen to about every other person who buys somthing from them, this isn't an isolated problem. LOTS of people seem to be having them. If it was just one or two I wouldn't think anything of it, crap happens and people always like to complain, but com'on.... there's a trend here.

Post by **Samabra** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

Yeah I did some looking back, and in hindsight, it seems that the only satisfied customer is implicit, and his motor was screwed up too. I'd like to see if all this ends up resolved, and/or if someone actually gets an engine trouble free. Chris

Post by **titotonto** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

I think brent was pretty satisfied with his clip, as were others. Look, these guys are trying to work stuff out, some American companies, like the one I went through could care less, and will not listen to anything you have to say.

Post by **rtsol** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

the whole brent story kinda struck me funny. he popped up just in time to praise FO, and the only posts i read of his were the ones about his motor from FLASHOPTIONS. is there anyone else who kinda feels that way or is it just me?

Post by **titotonto** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

I don't know brent personally, but he is an active member in this forum. And obviously he as a lot of stuff for sale in the nico forum which suggests his swap did take place.

OK so we got one or two threads of people that were screwed in some way or another by flashoptions, but in both cases they are trying to resolve issues...thats the whole point, a lot of other companies, even stateside would not resolve these issues. I've also notice alot of FO bashing----huge bandwagon, 99% of the people doing this bashing have never even dealt with them, I'm not saying I have dealt with them, but at least give the company a chance.

Post by **Silviagirl79** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

just you. There IP addresses were checked before and they are not the same people.

Post by **rtsol** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

im not saying that they are the same person, or that he never got his motor, but something still sits funny with me about that situation.

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

There is not one experienced, well regaurded person in the scene that i know of or have ever heard of that has praised that company....Sure, newbies have, and people with 30posts order motors from them....but No one who i would consider as knowing what they are doing has or would....there is something that experience tells us, and you'all will ask for advice, then ignore it....

The fact that Silviagirl gives them praise and they admited to doing business wiht the shady JSPECAUTO, is enough for me to consider them a company to stay away from...if your affiliated with shadyness, its going to reflect on you.

Every year there is a new company thats out there that people find out about and offers a hundred or two savings, whether is FO this year, JSPECAUTO last year, that company down in texas two years ago, etc etc, theres always a new "too good go be true" type of company out there, and people want to be the first to get a motor, then get ripped off, and no way to reconsile their lloss....There is a reason that the big companies have been around for years, get a lot of praise, sell the most motors, and have a cost of a little more...take our advice or dont....but there is no gain in the experienced people to point u one way or another, we just try to help...

JESSE

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

are you the same silviagirl who Emailed me from Ebay trying to sell me a motor from FO that was $200 less than the one I bid on but was going to cost an extra $400 in shipping?

Just curious,

Paul

Post by **Silviagirl79** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

Post by **titotonto** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

Well, IH8, I dont post much here or anywhere else, and I'm in no way an expert, and I get what you say about there always being a new company with supposedly awesome deals, but I don't think flashoptions is a fly by nigh type of company. they seem to be a large company that is trying to establish themselves. Seems is the key work, and I have not bought anything from them, I might once they move to Atlanta, but at the same time I'm just saying all these people bashing them mostly have nothing to contribute to someone asking about this company, cause they usually don't know what the hell they're talking about, even if they have a bunch of posts. I don't mean this in any way as an response against you...from what i read around this board, youre one of three or four people that actually knows what they're talking about whenever they post advice on something. MOst others just post what they've heard, or what they think they know, which is whats going on with all the FO bashing.

AS for the shady stuff, I agree with you, them dealing with those two is probably not something FO should talk about.

Post by **SpeedRacer1** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

The reason why I post about FO whenever they claim to be resolving an issue is because their idea of resolving an issue is completely different from ours. As soon as they found out it was their shipping companies fault they were like "Figure out your own shipping and let us know what the lowest prices are." Just because their shipping company screwed up doesnt mean they are off the hook, they told us we could keep an engine and that was there first major mistake, we let it slide, but now they told us we wont even get anything in return and we have to do our own work to locate a "cheap" transport company for them. This whole deal is getting passed down to the customers who really dont have the time for it.

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

Movingviolation240 wrote:Ship it overnight Via Fed Ex 'postage due' and it'll cost them almost what they paid for the clip.

That's what I'd do anyhow.... and have FedEx pay to come to your house and crate it up, load it on a truck, and then stick it on an MD-11 and have it there in a day or two. I'm guessing it wouldn't cost more than $1500-2000

Paul

PSI can hook you up with some overnight air freight places if you want

Screw Fedex. Plus they can't handle something that big. Use Sonic Air, same day freight :ylsuper Nice and cheap:thinker

Post by **jzoku** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

1st - the order is S14 clip, not a complete swap, not S13 black topand certainly not the 3 lucrative options that FO have offered.

2nd- how hard is it to differentiate between S13 blacktop andS14? since u claimed to be the biggest JDM exporter in the world, whats the probability that u can missbox. I bet whoever dealers that getting the container from u are having the same problem.

on my 1st point and 2nd point, I believe FO dont have any S14 in stock and they simply ship out to fill the order.

3rd- Please dont blame on the shipping agent. The only mistake is whoever crate this up and not who make the delivery.

4th- please update me whats FO's shop name in Georgia? I do need to order some floormaps to complete my JDM floormap collection.

LAST, FO should stop advertising on this forum until the sky is clear.

Post by **Samabra** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

you have one post and you jump on the bandwagon, good lord

Website · Post by **the_invisible** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

well, I am pretty sure he's a member here using a differnet name. OBviously, his intent is to bash FO and its business. Competitor??? who knows! hahaha

Post by **Phax** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

Movingviolation240 wrote:the thing is it seems to happen to about every other person who buys somthing from them, this isn't an isolated problem. LOTS of people seem to be having them. If it was just one or two I wouldn't think anything of it, crap happens and people always like to complain, but com'on.... there's a trend here.

The trend that has shown up is a bad one. Way back in high school, my psychology teacher said something to the effect of, "If you don't do anything 'bad' to someone else, you'll never have to apologize to them for it."

That same sentiment can be transferred over to the Flash Options situation as, "If you don't screw up an order in the first place, you won't have to make it right after the fact."

If Flash Options was a worth while company, the MAJORITY of their sales would be trouble free. From what I've learned through the boards, that is simply not the case. Their motor sales are NOT trouble free. Too many people have had to deal with after the sale issues, which often became hassles. Even supposed non-FO issues like shipping company confusion and what not are ridiculous. I wonder how much of that is really on the shipping company, and how much of that has to do with the shipping company not being able to understand what the **** the FO guy was telling them, about which shipment was supposed to end up where.

I can just imagine the conversation now:

FO: "You ship part to Mr. ... I only give you four letter of first name. Ship other part to, five letter of person last name."

Shipping Company: "You want me to do what?!"

The concensus seems to be that FO is about $200-400 cheaper than places in the states. Personally, I think my own time and peace of mind is worth a lot more than $300. Especially given that it's the peace of mind which comes from not having think, "Gee... I just sent over two thousand dollars out of the country. I wonder if my story will be like 85% of the rest of the board... or if I'll be that lucky one person, who has a hassle free experience."

:rolleyes

For those of you still looking to get into the selling side of things... you can get away with charging a premium if people can actually see the product they are going to buy.

Post by **SCOOTER240** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

:help all of this talk is making me nervous!!-i completed a purchase with fo about a month ago and they have been pretty good about keeping in contact-however i am worried that what i paid for is not going to be what i get-i have waited a long time to do a swap in my 240(4 Years and 3 kids)!!! there has to be some sort of recourse to attain the proper product that was ordered.

i would like to believe that there are still people of honor out there:beerchug

Post by **implict** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

scooter, ever been to chama, NM???? ( was reading your location )

good luck with your swap.

Post by **SCOOTER240** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

YEAH I'VE BEEN ARROUND CHAMA-SMALL TOWN-VISITED AT NIGHT SO NOTHING WAS GOING ON!!!

Post by **implict** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

ever been there at chama days????? its in aug. Lotta low riders and ****

i have relatives that like there

Post by **bruinbear714** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

Free bump for "Alex" and speedracer1. I hope you guys get things resolved with flashoptions. Keep us updated on what happens!

Why in the world would anything pay a business halfway around the world $2,000 for an engine or clip that they cannot inspect?

Remember people, these engines are USED ENGINES that have been sitting in the junkyard for quite sometime. If anyone was selling a complete motorset for $1,500, I'm going to want to be there to scope out the engine and perform a compression test myself before giving them my credit card number.

Otherwise, I'd just pay a little extra to a reputable company to pick out the motor for me. Now with that said, for others who are in the market for an SR motorset or front clip, PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT GET IT OFF EBAY, CANADA, OR ANYWHERE OUT OF THE US. You are just taking a gamble for months of headaches. Is your time and hassle worth the $300 you are going to save?

Some places to buy clips:

From Dauntless at http://www.afterdark-tuning.com (mid US?)Enjukuracing (east coast)Heavythrottle (east coast)Phase2Motortrend (west coast)

Did I leave anyone out?

Anyhow, these guys have their reputation and business to protect, so if there is any problem they will resolve it in a timely manner.

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

I think everything there was covered extensively in the first 5 pages of this thread ; ) but thanks!

Jesse

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:19 am

the_invisible wrote:well, I am pretty sure he's a member here using a differnet name. OBviously, his intent is to bash FO and its business. Competitor??? who knows! hahaha

yes lets not go crazy witrh the bashing.yes FO has had problems, but few companies in this business are trouble free.

This thread has lived long enough.We should feel free to exchange info, even sentiments on this board about vendors, but a 6 page bashing thread with very few posters ever having done business with the company, goes too far.

Also a vendor can never monitor the board as closely as is neccessary, to defend themselves effectively, so a thread like this, is sacrificing a lot of fairness.

Members will please forgive me, if I close it now, for these reasons.

Please email me with any complaints or compliments.

[email protected]

Thank you.

Fred...

Do not recommend Flash Options

fo business practice

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