Do i need an oil cooler?

[freakyjason]

So i'm about to start tracking my car through an organization called PDA (performance driving accademy or something). You are only given 4 or 5 sessions of 20 minutes each so your car isn't being beaten on constantly. I recently saw a thread where some one tracked their sr swaped 240 and ran into a lot of troble with oil cooling (engine fire) and began to wonder weather or not sr's chronically over-heat or have insufficient means of cooling their oil. Sorry if this topic has been covered before, i searched and didnt find anything.

[supreamS14]

Yes, If your running your car realy hard alot Its not a bad idea to have 1. Make sure it has a built in thermastat so you dont over-cool your oil. I have a greddy oil pan and dual oil filter relocation kit holding 6 qts. of royal purple(stock is 3.5 qts.) so I dont think I would ever need 1 unless my car became a track only car.

[homeslicej2]

^ I agree. If you track the car, a larger pan and/or cooler is a good idea. What dual filter kit are you using?

[supreamS14]

Summit racing $50.00 Mounted right to the frame rail

[positron1]

So unless you're tracking the car a oil filter relocator is really not needed in a practical sense?

[homeslicej2]

So unless you're tracking the car a oil filter relocator is really not needed in a practical sense?

No, no Posi, we're talking about an oil cooler. I was merely asking what Filter relocation kit supreams14 had gotten, since the Greddy one is so $$. It is a pain to get to the oil filter on the SR, esp. if you have sloppy wiring. Also, if the filter is on too tight it's really hard to get a lot of torque on it to take it off. Then there's the spilling of oil since the stock filter is mounted perpendicular to the block. A relocation kit just makes it easier, and allows you to run a larger filter. Supream, which kit exactly is what I was wondering. Could you link me to it on Summit's site?

[positron1]

Whoops! I meant oil cooler kit, my bad!

[supreamS14]

Im not sure exactly what kit. I was on ebay seen a seller that sells filter/dual relocators asked seller what thread pattern for 93 sentra SER w/ sr20de.Looked and the summit unit looked way better. I almost got a dual filter relocator w/ oil cooler kit from ebay but it dont have a built in thermastat so you dont overcool the oil and the oil hose looked like crap.The summit unit comes with diffrant adaptors, so I ordered the one with the SER sr size adaptors. The dual filter relocator is not relly needed due to the massive filters that fit it and it was a b!t<h to find a spot to mount. I use 2 of the smallest filters that fit and there still relly big filters. The single relocator can fit a relly big filter and had I known I would of got the single.

[freakyjason]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

Will something like this work? I dont know if it has a built in thermostat though? Again, the car isn't going to be used solely on the track, it's also one of my daily drivers.

[supreamS14]

looks good but no thermostat.

[freakyjason]

Is there some way i could install a thermostat myself? Would one bolt right on?

[freakyjason]

What exactly would be so bad about over cooling my oil? wouldnt it just make it thicker? couldn't i then just run a lighter weight oil to compensate for the amount that it will thicken?

[IanS]

What exactly would be so bad about over cooling my oil? wouldnt it just make it thicker? couldn't i then just run a lighter weight oil to compensate for the amount that it will thicken?

Its not just about your oils weight, its also about temperature, thats why most oil thermostats open around 180 degrees. Ideally you want to keep the temperature of the oil, and the temp of the coolant near each other, it will make the engine run smoother, and more efficiently.

The SR20DET is notorious for over cooking its motor oil. After decent stints of freeway driving, Ive seen oil temps nearing 210 degrees. My oil temps on track would most likely have been significantly higher, though I installed my cooler before ever hitting the track, I havnt seen my oil above 180 since.

Look up Mocal for a thermostatic adapter plate, then drive to your local hot rod shop and pick up the necessary lines, fittings, and a cooler

[freakyjason]

Wow! i took a look at mocal's site. There are so many options! i think i know what line and thermostat package to get but what size oil cooler should i get? like how many rows are necessary?

[IanS]

Just get a cooler based on size, get a size you think you can fit in your desired mounting location.

[freakyjason]

Cool (no pun intended)! Thanks for the help

[kentuckyslider]

Yes, If your running your car realy hard alot Its not a bad idea to have 1. Make sure it has a built in thermastat so you dont over-cool your oil. I have a greddy oil pan and dual oil filter relocation kit holding 6 qts. of royal purple(stock is 3.5 qts.) so I dont think I would ever need 1 unless my car became a track only car.

What thread size is the SR motor filter and o ring diameter? I am trying to order the single filter relacation kit from summit. I am going to keep my stock oil pan and add the relocation kit and a oil cooler from were I work http://www.tradna.com/. I never drive the car more than 30 miles on the interstate and it is always to drag race or autocross. My company is one of the largest heat exchange companies in the world based out of Nagoya, Japan. If you need a Oil cooler let me know. I work in engineering and have access to several different sizes.

[freakyjason]

If you need a Oil cooler let me know. I work in engineering and have access to several different sizes.

Yeah man, i might take you up on that. im at work now and cant really look at the link but i'll check it out tonight and shoot you an email. What kind of engineering are you? I'm enviro-mechanical (i kinda made that up. Im getting my bachelors in environmental and my masters in mechanical so i thought the title was fitting).

[freakyjason]

Look up Mocal for a thermostatic adapter plate, then drive to your local hot rod shop and pick up the necessary lines, fittings, and a cooler

With your setup, what kind of fittings did you use on the sandwich plate? I got mine with strait pushlock fittings and 90 degree fittings and it wont get close enough to the block to tighten down. Do i need banjo fitting? Is that what you're running?

[IanS]

I used Aeromotive hose fittings. The front one I just ran straight down, and the rear one I used a 90 degree bend to route the line through the bracket for the motor mount.

[karmakaze]

rx7 oil cooler FTW!

[freakyjason]

I used Aeromotive hose fittings. The front one I just ran straight down, and the rear one I used a 90 degree bend to route the line through the bracket for the motor mount.

Right, i was actually thinking about doing that. That sounds like it should work. I have two 90 degree fittings so i'll give that a try tonight. Oh yeah, don't bother responding to my email haha.

[IanS]

The easiest way to do it, is to push the hose through the motor mount, and pull it all the way up, then push it back down, attach it to the adapter, then pull the slack back through the mount.

[Kalypso]

have you read this?

its an oil cooler how to article

http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=167442

by rico05
Modified by Kalypso123 at 8:40 AM 8/8/2008

[freakyjason]

The easiest way to do it, is to push the hose through the motor mount, and pull it all the way up, then push it back down, attach it to the adapter, then pull the slack back through the mount.

Yeah, that's what i was trying to do with the strait fittings but i think with the 90 degree it will fit better. With the strait fitting, it was hitting the motor mount a little bit which prevented the sandwich plate from snuggly meeting with the block. Thanks so much for the suggestion!

[maj Andres]

I used Aeromotive hose fittings. The front one I just ran straight down, and the rear one I used a 90 degree bend to route the line through the bracket for the motor mount.

I know, old thread....

But are the aeromotive fittings the same as A/N fittings?

[konjiki7]

aeromotive are a brand just like russets or earl's... so you would still need to figure out what size A/N fittings you want to use or need.