Did a few DIY'ers to my kouki..

[sharkerio_coupe]

Darens13, your sig is ill! hahaha

In regards to the DiY...more power to you. Whats important is that you like it, you drive it.

What did you use for the lip though, is that gardening supply? I just helped my friend do his garden and we used somethin lookin very similar haha.

[Dittoz7]

Should Try And Make The Home-Made All Around Lip Kit

You Know...Just For Giggles...

[Koshin]

No sir, I dont like it.....

No, these.

Its Diamond Lok. Type "home depot lip" on the search and the thread comes up, he never posted again but the lip looked real good IMO.

I saw this thread, like 1000 times better......

[apollas]

some people like it, some people hate it-but I don't care I LIKE IT and it's all functional. FUNCTION>FORM

explain how the lip is functional. seriously everytime i see that "lip"

[Dittoz7]

Ever Notice How All Track Cars Are So Low To The Ground.Well Some Principle...Is It A Race Car? No. But Serves The Same Function.

[spooled240]

i was looking for something like that at HD I think it may have been in a box and that looks like it would've done a cleaner job.

As for the stuff I bought, it's just like garden bordering that came in a 20ft roll.

The lip was pretty flimsy at first not having anything behind it but i got some wire similar thickness to that of a coat hanger and slided them in the bottom "tube" as you can see in that pic above. It is a bit more sturdier now but has enough movement in case it scrapes some dips and what not.

explain how the lip is functional. seriously everytime i see that "lip"

easy, it keeps the air out from under the car at high speeds and allowing the vehicle to have constant force on the road which would give you more control and grip. Without a lip or no weight up front you can "hover" over a giant air pocket under the vehicle where the steering would feel delayed and the front tires would have less grip. Even the OEM lips are basically a plastic strip that hangs off the bumper but about 300 bucks for me

[ArticDragon192]

yeah maybe, I kinda like the look of the screws-looks hardcore functional.

O yeah, I forgot to mention-the fan blows a TON of air through the engine especially with the original clutch fan. Go ahead and stand near your engine at idle and rev it, it blows massive amounts of air at higher rpms. A lot of this air will blow past my turbo and out through the back of the hood now, as opposed to when it was sealed closed and the air exiting through the bottom of the car. Again, this is definitely not a "useless" ricer mod just because Honda guys started it.

I never said it was a ricer mod. I said it was used by Honda guys to get air to their individual throttle bodies. The vent actually brings air in, and since the intake manifolds on Hondas is closest to the firewall, that vent was actually effective in bring cool air into the velocity stacks when the car was in motion, which is when it was most necessary.

Again, like I said before, at a stand still, over course air is going to vent. Hot air rises and since there's a vent at the upper most part of the hood, hot air will escape from that point. But that's at rest. Once the car is in motion, it's a different story. Also look at all the cowl induction hoods that all the muscle cars run to bring air into the carbs. All work under the same principle. bring air into the motor, not vacuum air out from the engine bay.

[otterman]

The lip is horrible.

The lip and rear hood raise trick isn't really thread starting material.

[assassin7420]

i was looking for something like that at HD I think it may have been in a box and that looks like it would've done a cleaner job.

As for the stuff I bought, it's just like garden bordering that came in a 20ft roll.

The lip was pretty flimsy at first not having anything behind it but i got some wire similar thickness to that of a coat hanger and slided them in the bottom "tube" as you can see in that pic above. It is a bit more sturdier now but has enough movement in case it scrapes some dips and what not.

easy, it keeps the air out from under the car at high speeds and allowing the vehicle to have constant force on the road which would give you more control and grip. Without a lip or no weight up front you can "hover" over a giant air pocket under the vehicle where the steering would feel delayed and the front tires would have less grip. Even the OEM lips are basically a plastic strip that hangs off the bumper but about 300 bucks for me

ROFL, You did not just say the home depo lip makes the car handle better.

[s14tan]

Hey S14tan have you found a longer diamond loc thing yet?? I remember on the original diamond loc lip thread we both went to get one but were too short. Sorry /end thread jack

I never found a longer strip of it so I just made my lip into one solid piece. pics here.zerothread?id=329791

/Thread jack

Back on topic:

Link to diamond loc lip. zer...age=1

[maroon240]

It makes it look like a jgtc car

I was thinking about the gracer lip

[Clawhammer]

This thread makes me lol.

It's one thing to say your rice mods look good (they don't), but to say you didn't do them for looks because they're actually functional...

...HA

Who are you trying to convince? Hmmm? Your garden trim lip isn't making your car handle better, and your raised hood isn't venting air.

This was a mean post, I'm going to apologize in advance (Sorry).

[spooled240]

The lip is horrible.

The lip and rear hood raise trick isn't really thread starting material.

o ****, I should've asked the otterman if this was "worthy" enough

ROFL, You did not just say the home depo lip makes the car handle better.

hey you're right bro I DIDN'T, i was talking about racing lips in general. I'm aware that this isn't a racing lip, but it WILL help keep air from under the car at higher speeds-simple physics.

[spooled240]

Who are you trying to convince? Hmmm? Your garden trim lip isn't making your car handle better, and your raised hood isn't venting air.

How the hell do you know? You sir, make me LOL-how does a propped hood NOT vent air. O and I don't believe that the HD lip is COMLETELY useless I don't care if I make you laugh or not.

[assassin7420]

o ****, I should've asked the otterman if this was "worthy" enough

hey you're right bro I DIDN'T, i was talking about racing lips in general. I'm aware that this isn't a racing lip, but it WILL help keep air from under the car at higher speeds-simple physics.

ROFL, No. The lip bends in at high speeds and looks like a big taco. Ever seen someone with a home depo lip fly by at 70+mph. Its quite funny.

[ken240sx]

I will say that the less air that can get under the car, the more down force it will create, the more stable it will be at high speeds, more air goes to the radiator if set up right, and you'll get better gas mileage if done correctly too.

[spooled240]

well assuming the HD lip has support where it won't bend back...it's not even a lip at 70mph if it bends back all the way lol.

[spooled240]

I will say that the less air that can get under the car, the more down force it will create, the more stable it will be at high speeds, more air goes to the radiator if set up right, and you'll get better gas mileage if done correctly too.

egg-fukin-xactly

[2ndnissan]

What I don't like about the HD lip is the ripples in it. There's one at every rivet location. Even painted there would still be ripples visible. The thinner more flexible "diamond lok" would at least eliminate some of those. A smooth body shouldn't show ripples anywhere. As for the hood prop,I just know I'd get distracted and not tighten the bolts down enough and get on heck of a concussion eventually*s*

[otterman]

o ****, I should've asked the otterman if this was "worthy" enough

No you shouldn't have. I don't got time to answer all your dumb questions.

[ca18detgabby]

-LIP

if it is even minorly fuctional in stopping air from traveling under the car it would increase the force on the front of the car from an itial stop as now the force of gravity has a larger surface to push against. If it folds in anyway(which it clearly is doing even at a stop with its ugly ripples) then it will not maintain a constant flow of air over or under it and create turbulance. enough flexing and it could cause the front end to Lift instead. as intead of being l the flex has caused it to / and force going <- will create lift.

-hood propif it does vent hot air, wouldnt a flush hood w/o washer sprayers do almost the same thing. getting any water on their(special on your ebay turbo setup) is going to be a reall bad idea real quick. it still doesnt vent at a point under load(maybe under 10MPH) and in reality I can do the same thing taking my hood off at the track.

most of all if you cant keep it cool enough under the hood during daily driving conditions.... you have bigger problems than just hot air.

[Clawhammer]

How the hell do you know? You sir, make me LOL-how does a propped hood NOT vent air.

Because the people with at least half a brain have spent the last 2 pages talking about how the hood prop pulls air in and only vents it when you're sitting still. I'm sorry your 3rd grade reading level has not been able to pick up on that.

We're not driving F1 cars or anything here. All this talk about under car turbulance and such is BS. In the grand scheme of things your lip really isn't doing anything. I put a pignose lip on my car for the look, not because I live in a fantasy land where I think a 3" piece of plastic is making my street car handle better. Maybe the reason you feel you have to justify your lip with a function is because you stapled a piece of garden trim to your bumper?

[spooled240]

No you shouldn't have. I don't got time to answer all your dumb questions.

you sure have time to make a dumb post

Because the people with at least half a brain have spent the last 2 pages talking about how the hood prop pulls air in and only vents it when you're sitting still. I'm sorry your 3rd grade reading level has not been able to pick up on that.

We're not driving F1 cars or anything here. All this talk about under car turbulance and such is BS. In the grand scheme of things your lip really isn't doing anything. I put a pignose lip on my car for the look, not because I live in a fantasy land where I think a 3" piece of plastic is making my street car handle better. Maybe the reason you feel you have to justify your lip with a function is because you stapled a piece of garden trim to your bumper?

Ok, first of all can we keep the insults to a minimum, and give me a little more constructive criticism? Calling me a 3rd grader without a brain doesn't help me and just makes you look immature. I'm in college and I can read just fine. I agree with you guys how the lip will not be beneficial when it's bent back where it will just make matters worst..I just think it will keep air out of the bottom of the car at high speeds if it doesn't bend back with the support of an oem lip behind it or L-brackets, etc. Yeah we don't drive F1 cars on here but we still run 10 inch wide wheels and racing coilovers for DD right? Same principle.

What I don't like about the HD lip is the ripples in it. There's one at every rivet location. Even painted there would still be ripples visible. The thinner more flexible "diamond lok" would at least eliminate some of those. A smooth body shouldn't show ripples anywhere. As for the hood prop,I just know I'd get distracted and not tighten the bolts down enough and get on heck of a concussion eventually*s*

yeah the ripples do look like crap I think I'm getting sick of it anyway. I will do the diamond loc lip cuz it looks cleaner and lower the hood like another inch.

I'm thinking about filling the tiny holes I left with a little bit of bondo and using some touch up paint I hope it works wonders..

[ThuG LyFe]

glad to see ur fixing up ur errors. that glacier lip would look amazing but i'm sure it's $$$. the ripples do suck and i hope u take it off b/c it's like putting on a piece of plastic on the zenki navan bumper.

btw i doubt it but u think a oem zenki lip would fit? that wouldn't look too bad

[spooled240]

i thought about that also, but I have no clue if it will fit.

I'd like to get the OEM jdm lip but its like 300ish but it will cover them holes up.

yeah this **** is gonna come off soon, looks more low budge than ricer/race/etc. interesting for ****s and giggles tho

[spooled240]

I'm seriously debating this lip, not too much and I can pick up

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...op:us

what do you guys think? Least this will cover those holes

[uselesswingsr4penguins]

love the lip nice job, i have the same little hood ventilation trick on my s-13 and it works and looks good koodos

[koukicody]

Thats the one i posted in this thread earlier.

yes, it will cover all those holes. Call them and ask how much it would be picked up. there number is (909) 773-0820

[Space Monkey]

I have to agree with 90% of everyone else on the thread and say the hood lift looks horrible, but thats my opinion. The lip you currently have looks like $20....stock was better. The lip in the ebay link actually i think looks very nice. A lot of people on these forums will call you a ricer just from typing ebay on your keyboard, but we know all of them have bought something from ebay before! If you want cooling then install a heat deflector or heat wrap in that area. You could put some nice lookings cuts in your fender and mesh them up, this will take some time and precision though. Good luck!

[ken240sx]

That lip on ebay looks much better. Even if you don't paint it for a while it's still going to look nice. Tons of people don't paint their lips, so it won't be hated on too much. Yes it may suck if it got scuffed up, but still it would be a nicer addition.