Did a few DIY'ers to my kouki..

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KLYPH wrote:How about the haters try propping the hood up and go for a ride. put your hand out the window and if you dont feel hot air coming out from under your hood(which you will) then come in here and talk ****. GTFO and STFU
At low very low speeds and stopped it will happen. But I can do that and feel warmer air there anyway without a propped hood, because that area is heated by the engine.I tried the hood prop at various heights and didn't see any noticeable difference in the heat the engine ran at when it reached operating temps. There was a noticeable difference when I went to a 25% coolant mix and water wetter. It changed by about 10 degrees consistently. You can't really tell if a 2 degree or so difference in temps is due to a different air temp, driving condition, or a hood prop... The temps are constantly changing by a couple degrees so I can't say that if my engine ran a couple degrees colder once or twice that it was because of the hood prop. I haven't had a noticeable difference in temps since it's been backs to stock hood height.The only way I can see this actually working is if you made a cover/skid plate type of mod for the bottom of your engine bay to not allow air to travel out the bottom to low pressure, and force the air to build up more and more pressure and velocity from swirling that its only option is to escape out of the area between the hood and windshield. Even then, if there is a high enough pressure built up in the engine bay due to air not being allowed to move anywhere else, airflow INTO the engine bay will decrease dramatically because more air will choose to go around the radiator instead through it and end up either under or over/around the car.This topic is giving me a headache.


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KLYPH wrote:How about the haters try propping the hood up and go for a ride. put your hand out the window and if you dont feel hot air coming out from under your hood(which you will) then come in here and talk ****. GTFO and STFUDay light pics pleaseI think the lip was a bad idea but w/e, its better than nothing
the lip is actually worse than nothing.

and people who are raving about their cars needing this extra cooling from something that doesn't even scientifically make sense, and looks ridiculous-need to realize that a ka/sr/rb doesn't run hot enough to even warrant it.

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coreansurfer wrote:
the lip is actually worse than nothing.

and people who are raving about their cars needing this extra cooling from something that doesn't even scientifically make sense, and looks ridiculous-need to realize that a ka/sr/rb doesn't run hot enough to even warrant it.
You have no idea what your talking about. I have a T3-T4 on my SR. After 20 minutes of normal driving i can light matches and cigarettes off the turbo with no problem what so ever.

Guess what the turbo sits right next to? Oh just the BMC. When you shim the hood it allows heat to escape instead of building up under your hood. When I had my black primer hood if it rained there would always be a dry spot on the turbo side. That and i can see heat rising from the hood when ever I stop.

Its not meant to suck in air, Its simply to let the bay vent better under low speeds or stops.

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actually, the air travelling across the back of the hood and then up the windscreen will create a low pressure spot at the opening of the rear of the hood, drawing the warm air out, and cooling it. dont forget that there is a ram air effect into the engine bay which will also help air travel through the bay.

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Morph wrote:
Is it just me or has the douche level risen a lot lately?

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i mean the hood lift isnt to bad...just lower it more...i understand its to catch more air vent in and out...but however that front lip looks effin' disgusting...sorry for the hatred..come on now that's not an 86'

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I like it. I personally thing it might look better if the lip is painted the same color as the bumper since the lip is flat. Where can I find the lip in home depot

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Lolz I Like It...

Haterzzzz!


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assassin7420 wrote:
You have no idea what your talking about. I have a T3-T4 on my SR. After 20 minutes of normal driving i can light matches and cigarettes off the turbo with no problem what so ever.

Guess what the turbo sits right next to? Oh just the BMC. When you shim the hood it allows heat to escape instead of building up under your hood. When I had my black primer hood if it rained there would always be a dry spot on the turbo side. That and i can see heat rising from the hood when ever I stop.

Its not meant to suck in air, Its simply to let the bay vent better under low speeds or stops.
i run an rb which are notorious for over heating, and i've yet to have any heating problems after 2 years of driving

what you need is a good radiator, good fan set up and good ducting, not some mickey mouse'd attempt at cooling.

edit: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showth...d+gap

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I'm not feeling the cove base lip, and worse now the bumper looks like it has some holes. And as for the hood lower would look better, but like stated before I just don't get the hood in that fashion.

But the car is clean, and looks good.

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you have to take that lip off

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Wow lots of misinformation. Ok, heres truth.

The hood prop keeps heat within the engine bay when the car is in motion and vents heat when the car is stopped. Think about your sunroof...When you prop it open, you feel air entering the car, right? That's exactly what's going on when you prop the rear of the hood.

Also, you all do realize that the hood prop deal came from the Honda scene right? It was done to bring in air into the ITBs of NA set ups since the trumpets would be in the rear side of the engine bay right by where the hood would be propped.

BTW, home depot lips are gay, especially on S14. get a real lip. A cheap price doesn't justify something crappy.

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ArticDragon192 wrote:BTW, home depot lips are gay, especially on S14. get a real lip. A cheap price doesn't justify something crappy.

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you know i really liked the work you did with your brakes and your 5 lug and painted wheels..... but that lip looks like crap. sorry to say but im disappointed. i hope that was a photochop.

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Anyone ever tried those vortex generators?





http://www.manufacturersdepot....22063

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nope. but here's a good link that somewhat relates. It's about saving gas mileage, but there are some aerodynamic issues involved.http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/...by-25/

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whats with all the haters?

Function> style FTMFW

Good job dude
Modified by s14tan at 3:50 PM 5/6/2008

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s14tan wrote:Function< style FTMFW
he just bolted function TO style. HD lip on a JDM kouki bumper? im not saying this as a jdm tyte purist or anything... but if you spent so much to get jdm aero instead of readily available usdm, why the hell would you slap a piece of floor moulding on your bumper? your car was so pristine man...

tell ya what, in your life browser, hit Edit-> Undo silly mods.

and s14tan, you are aware you said STYLE is greater than FUNCTION, right?

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style being greater than function seems to be largely accepted...I mean, people will put giant wings on the back of their car that do nothing, slam cars to be a half inch off the ground with crazy offsets and camber to look sick...but gl with dd. Some people put giant front mounts on cars that are only pumping out 200hp...So yes, style > function

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maroon240 wrote:Anyone ever tried those vortex generators?





http://www.manufacturersdepot....22063
I'd love to see that wing on a 240 As for the DIY lip, just a question. If you're going to put that much money into your kouki, why not go the extra step and get a name brand attractive lip?

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mrgreeneyes wrote:
and s14tan, you are aware you said STYLE is greater than FUNCTION, right?
oops!

Fixed

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cruel indeed! haha I couldn't care less though, I respect all the opinions-if we all had the exact taste our cars they would all look about the same

The hood prop thing is basically an AIR EXTRACTOR similar to the ones on hoods like the Ford GT, etc...I actually didn't even know that was a "ricer" invention, w/e..I did it just for cooler hood temps.

Driving around, my temp gauge DOES read a little colder now and I drive it every day.

Daylight pics:

some people like it, some people hate it-but I don't care I LIKE IT and it's all functional. FUNCTION>FORM

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i might do the hood prop thing when it starts to get really hot, but probably only about half as much as yours. i'll bet if you painted those "sheet rock" screws black they wouldnt stand out so much.

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yeah maybe, I kinda like the look of the screws-looks hardcore functional.

O yeah, I forgot to mention-the fan blows a TON of air through the engine especially with the original clutch fan. Go ahead and stand near your engine at idle and rev it, it blows massive amounts of air at higher rpms. A lot of this air will blow past my turbo and out through the back of the hood now, as opposed to when it was sealed closed and the air exiting through the bottom of the car. Again, this is definitely not a "useless" ricer mod just because Honda guys started it.

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ken240sx wrote:Some people put giant front mounts on cars that are only pumping out 200hp...
Like the fmic you are holding? How much power are you making?

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I'm making 0hp right now because my engine is apart, and in NY lol. I'm shooting for the 450whp range, more is better tho. I just don't want to blow the transmission tho, so not TOO much power. Maybe a year or so from now, a stroker kit, bigger turbo, standalone, and 300zx transmission are in the running for installation. Right now it's just what I would call a slightly more than mild build.

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Spooled: Diamond loc lip would of been better tho.

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Hey S14tan have you found a longer diamond loc thing yet?? I remember on the original diamond loc lip thread we both went to get one but were too short. Sorry /end thread jack

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s14tan wrote:Spooled: Diamond loc lip would of been better tho.
are you talking about a metal lip?diamond plate?

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No, these.

Its Diamond Lok. Type "home depot lip" on the search and the thread comes up, he never posted again but the lip looked real good IMO.


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