Hey, its all we got...JESTER wrote:Hey, who wants to live in this crappy world forever?
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YEah, I am puzzled with this as well.
In this past December, my younger brother died form a drunk driver in a car accident, he was 21. I don't know what he felt when it happened, I don't know if he was scared, I don't know where he is right now, and I am both REALLY scared, and also, I am proud of him for beeing able to go through that, I know I am afraid as hell of death.
To get that call, at 2am, that your brother was killed, NOT COOL AT ALL.
I still don't understand, it still hasn't sunken in yet, it's been just over 5 months, I miss him BIG TIME.
He wasn't religious at all, I used to be, and this has me all wondering too.
If I go back to church (I was baptised 3 years ago as a Christian from the "Church of Christ" after beeing brought up as a Catholic...no, it's not the same) Anyways, if I believe in my religion, it would mean that my bro is not going to heaven since he was not a believer, and if I am, then that means I won't be with him in the after life..if there is one, so I don't really want to go to church or anything, because I want to be with him.
I dunno, I think, or I should say, I hope, that the lights go out, you get a flash of your whole life as it's happening, then nothing. you don't know you are dead, so you can't be said, or scared.
WHY THE HELL DID YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIM AWAY FROM ME???
Sorry, this thread is a little emmotional for me!
good thread though!
Jay
In this past December, my younger brother died form a drunk driver in a car accident, he was 21. I don't know what he felt when it happened, I don't know if he was scared, I don't know where he is right now, and I am both REALLY scared, and also, I am proud of him for beeing able to go through that, I know I am afraid as hell of death.
To get that call, at 2am, that your brother was killed, NOT COOL AT ALL.
I still don't understand, it still hasn't sunken in yet, it's been just over 5 months, I miss him BIG TIME.
He wasn't religious at all, I used to be, and this has me all wondering too.
If I go back to church (I was baptised 3 years ago as a Christian from the "Church of Christ" after beeing brought up as a Catholic...no, it's not the same) Anyways, if I believe in my religion, it would mean that my bro is not going to heaven since he was not a believer, and if I am, then that means I won't be with him in the after life..if there is one, so I don't really want to go to church or anything, because I want to be with him.
I dunno, I think, or I should say, I hope, that the lights go out, you get a flash of your whole life as it's happening, then nothing. you don't know you are dead, so you can't be said, or scared.
WHY THE HELL DID YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIM AWAY FROM ME???
Sorry, this thread is a little emmotional for me!
good thread though!
Jay
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dead = non existant
youre not gonna die and then be depressed youre dead, youre freakin DEAD
why worry about dying and all this crap you have to do before you die, or make likfe worth it, life isnt worth much of anything, we exist only to keep existing, its rediculous
answer to the reason of life = there is no reason to life, until people comprehend that war of religion, war over deaths will continue.
war, die because youre afraid dying, damn, why are peopels o stupid
no point to this post, just thought id share my view
and before anyone starts on me " if someone pointed a gun at your face and was ready to pull the trigger youd **** your pants" honestly, no... i wouldnt, ive had several guns pulled on me and pointed at my head. atleast that way i know ill die fast and painless
pointing a gun at my crotch on the other hand, ill plead like a little *****
peace.
youre not gonna die and then be depressed youre dead, youre freakin DEAD
why worry about dying and all this crap you have to do before you die, or make likfe worth it, life isnt worth much of anything, we exist only to keep existing, its rediculous
answer to the reason of life = there is no reason to life, until people comprehend that war of religion, war over deaths will continue.
war, die because youre afraid dying, damn, why are peopels o stupid
no point to this post, just thought id share my view
and before anyone starts on me " if someone pointed a gun at your face and was ready to pull the trigger youd **** your pants" honestly, no... i wouldnt, ive had several guns pulled on me and pointed at my head. atleast that way i know ill die fast and painless
pointing a gun at my crotch on the other hand, ill plead like a little *****
peace.
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As a christian I know i'm going to heaven. If you think otherwhise it's ok but through my personal experince over the past 3 years of my life it's the best way to live. In the bible Jon (i think) was taken through heaven and when he returned he explained it as streets made of gold so pure and room for 30 billion people to have 45 acres a piece gates made of perfect pearls 150 feet wide and tall. there is no anger, sadness, or fear only good things
Personally i am not afraid of death just the way it will happen But when it does its god's plan and i know im gonna live for eternity happy.
Hey Jay it may hurt but get back into church god will help you through and there is a reason for everything. if you show faith in him you will find the answers. And the people at church can help you through your struggles.
Sorry to get all minister on you but i gotta spread the word.
Personally i am not afraid of death just the way it will happen But when it does its god's plan and i know im gonna live for eternity happy.
Hey Jay it may hurt but get back into church god will help you through and there is a reason for everything. if you show faith in him you will find the answers. And the people at church can help you through your struggles.
Sorry to get all minister on you but i gotta spread the word.
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It's a metaphor that has been translated many times over and has now turned into what we as humans would consider a safe and perfect existence. A basic explanation would be that people consider a gated community a safe environment...always have, even in biblical times... safer inside than out. A gate would symbolize not only an entrance from one life unto the next, but also the point where those who believe are allowed to enter, and those who are not are denied entrance. pretty simple stuff, all you have to do is believe it.
Jay- Sorry about your Brother. I apologize with what seems now like an insensitive post.
I think the issue isn't specifically the fear of death itself, but the fear of not knowing what happens when we die and why some leave us much sooner than others. Religious faith of one sort or another helps many of us (including me) to try to answer some of these questions, but the answers are usually incomplete...which is why we still fear it in one way or another. It is very natural to be afraid of what we don't know or understand, and unfortunately for us, dying is the most permanant thing we will probabally never figure out.
I think the issue isn't specifically the fear of death itself, but the fear of not knowing what happens when we die and why some leave us much sooner than others. Religious faith of one sort or another helps many of us (including me) to try to answer some of these questions, but the answers are usually incomplete...which is why we still fear it in one way or another. It is very natural to be afraid of what we don't know or understand, and unfortunately for us, dying is the most permanant thing we will probabally never figure out.
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you don't have to have religion to lead a 'good' life or to appreciate the people you care for.and personally i think, not having a duality of things, such as sadness/happiness, bad/good. etc. makes things quite unreal to me. since it is all i know. how can you appreciate happiness if there is nothing to compare it to? how can it exist?
as humans the questions and beliefs surrounding death are rooted in the same instinctual fears of prehistoric humans as well. the questions and beliefs have just evolved over time to something more elaborate and complex.
as humans the questions and beliefs surrounding death are rooted in the same instinctual fears of prehistoric humans as well. the questions and beliefs have just evolved over time to something more elaborate and complex.
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Iread it a few months ago. I think John was smoking something when he had that dream. J/K
Yo Jay, Sorry about your brother. Death of a close family or friend isn't something that is easy to deal with, especially if you lose faith. You should really go talk to your pastor. See what he is able to tell you about the situation. They are the experts after all.
Who's for building a road course on a few of those acres John saw?
Yo Jay, Sorry about your brother. Death of a close family or friend isn't something that is easy to deal with, especially if you lose faith. You should really go talk to your pastor. See what he is able to tell you about the situation. They are the experts after all.
Who's for building a road course on a few of those acres John saw?
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I dont believe in god, never did. Therefore I believe that when we die its just like going to sleep for ever. You dont know youre dead therefore you dont care. So through that Im not at all afraid of death. I was damn close last weekend. I flipped my A4 on its roof and got out without a scratch, but I could have just as well not have gotten out again. The only thing that scares me about death is the impact on my friends and especially family. I dont want to hurt anyone that I care about... thats my shpiel...
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What I wounder is ..... like exactly what goes thru your mind when your dead .... I dont understand this ... like you can think now, you can do stuff, but when your dead ..... you dont exist ... you cant think, you cant do squat ......I dont know how to really ask my question.Yo "that guy", I know its fackin crazy, makes me wounder too .... actually thats exactly my question
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The real reason I started this thread is because 2 weeks ago exactly was 20 years since my Grandfather died, and all of my family and my fiancees family got together at my house in his memory, and his portrait was on a living room table, and it kinda caught me, I sat down and thought, where is he right now, what is he feeling if anything, I was sitting by his picture for about 30 minutes thinking and woundering, it freaked me out, that everyone has to go sometime or another ......