There is no such thing as "lifetime fluid" for any model under any circumstances. Heat is not the only factor that breaks down CVT fluid, shear force and oxidation also destroy it. For the sake of your cars, please get over it.
There is no such thing as "lifetime fluid" for any model under any circumstances. Heat is not the only factor that breaks down CVT fluid, shear force and oxidation also destroy it. For the sake of your cars, please get over it.
Their was a pds early on that sopus (shell) manufactured cvt fluid for Nissan. Speculation was that the fluid had a lot to do with the cvt failures. Since idemitsu and eneos supposedly have and are the new supplier. Castrols fine but the red color will make you have to lawyer up if your under warranty. Valvolines clear and when mixed with Nissan fluid would be hard to tell apart. I’ve been using valvoline in my 09 and the car seems to run better after enough drain and fills to have basically replaced about 90% of it.
True that. The vast majority of supposed "fluid-induced failure" is actually "foam-induced failure" induced by shade tree ignorance.
Agreed. My 09 made it 95k being overfilled from the factory before it began howling like a banshee. I knew very little at the time about cvts, but knew when I checked the dipstick it was way overfilled. I brought it to the dealers attention but the reasponse was “don’t worry about it, it’s under extended warranty”. I gotta say I really don’t like the new ones not having a dipstick and have a hard time trusting the leveling method of changing fluid. I’d much rather see the fluid in a dipstick personally.VStar650CL wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 7:07 amTrue that. The vast majority of supposed "fluid-induced failure" is actually "foam-induced failure" induced by shade tree ignorance.
It would make it easier on us techs, too, but I can understand why Nissan wants to make it scary and inconvenient. When it comes to warranty, proving abuse or ignorance on the part of a DIYer or outside shop is very difficult.
Merged with existing thread. Please see this as well: ......Since we’re on the topic of Cvt fluidRockhoundrob wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:23 amMy daughter got her car at 110,000 miles last summer.
I did some overhauling up front just to get it in shape (alt, brakes, water pump, heat shield over exhaust, etc...)
Now I am going over general things like dust cover, etc...
When she got the car, the CVT fluid was nice blue, so I figure she has at least a year.
Now I'd like to change the fluid ( been 15,000 miles and we have no idea when it was last changed).
The question is... are Nissan transmission picky about CVT fluid?
It's either go to Nissan and get CVT NS-2 fluid for like $25 per quart... OR go to Autozone and get Valvoline CVT-1 which shows "NS-2,NS-3" on the back at $11 per quart.
Any suggestions? what about differential? do they need to be taken care of too?
NS2/NS3 used to have a film-strength advantage over the aftermarket fluids, but the aftermarket has come a loooong way in the last few years. The reputable full-synthetics have become pretty much problem-free and as good or better than the OE fluid.Rockhoundrob wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:23 amThe question is... are Nissan transmission picky about CVT fluid?
It's either go to Nissan and get CVT NS-2 fluid for like $25 per quart... OR go to Autozone and get Valvoline CVT-1 which shows "NS-2,NS-3" on the back at $11 per quart.
Any suggestions? what about differential? do they need to be taken care of too?
You're quite welcome. Yep, exactly. Or some folks measure what they take out and then replace exactly that amount. Either method is fine unless the tranny leaks, then you have to go by the stick.Rockhoundrob wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:09 pmOK, so Valvoline synthetic NS-2, NS-3 is fine?
And thanks for the warning about over filling. I guess I make it 1 quart short, then drive around to warm it up, and fill to 3/4 way to the top hashmark.
I use Valvoline in my '09 that was replaced under extended warranty. I just started using it so it’s too early to tell the longevity. Rumor has it that Nissan's fluid is supplied by ENEOS and can be purchased at NAPA for 50% less than OEM fluid. I just did a drain and fill on the wife's '18 Rogue with ENEOS and it works as well as before. I’m more worried about clean fluid and not overfilled than I am if it’s Nissan's OEM overpriced unicorn tears. I used red Castrol in my wife’s '07 Murano and I just saw it in town yesterday with over 300k on it by now I’m sure.Rockhoundrob wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:09 pmOK, so Valvoline synthetic NS-2, NS-3 is fine?
And thanks for the warning about over filling. I guess I make it 1 quart short, then drive around to warm it up, and fill to 3/4 way to the top hashmark.
Does the rear also need to be drained at 120k miles? The schedule doesn't specify.VStar650CL wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:31 pm
If it's FWD then the diff and tranny are integrated, change one and you change the other. Only the rear diff on AWD is a separate unit.
Hm..the vids I saw only did that strainer and said it was a filter. Off to find more data on the filter!casperfun wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:21 amTechnically it's called a strainer when you drop the pan, the transmission filter looks like a cute little oil filter that is found in the beehive. I only did the strainer because personally it would be a pain in the butt to do the transmission filter. Speaking for myself only. People usually change it during the installation of a tranmission cooler.
The tranny either had heat issues or was replaced, or the car had a factory trailer package. There was a bulletin about the gen1's going into "self-protection" from hot fluid, and the fix was to retrofit the OE trailer package cooler. It's a very nice setup, but very pricey compared to aftermarket coolers.
Does this look correct?Dosmastr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:55 pmDrain pan is around 5qts.
Drop the pan drain 1 or 2 more qts?
Refill all that is lost.
Then disconnect bottom from trans cooler and run until new fluid comes out... Another 1 to 2qts?
Does Total 7 to 9 qts for a change using this process sound right?
Must use ns2 for first gen or is ns3 also acceptable?
Nissan parts site said get ns2 so Im nervous...
9 qts of ns2 is 170 bucks delivered.