Cut my springs

[rowdogg03]

Yeah I know I know... Every one is like DONT CUT YOUR SPRINGS! But I just wasnt satisfied with the drop my tein springs gave me.. so I cut em, and I am pleased with the result. Its not exactly slammed but I think just about right.. Its not bouncy at all, so Im really happy with it... I cut off a coil all the way around... btw on tokico blues

[USsil80]

you cut a good pair tein springs... wow...guess some think looks oversaftey/performance

[nvrplzd240]

Idiot

[Matej]

Clean Zenki.

[E7-S14]

Idiot

Hey hey now lets be nice

do you have anymore pics of thedrop... a side view maybe??

[sil8tdrftr]

btw your tires look bald... might be safe to get newer ones with your newer cut springs

[silvia_s13_coupe]

btw your tires look bald... might be safe to get newer ones with your newer cut springs

lol, he got some slicks on some 14's

[boj240]

cut springs FTL!.... i mean dont take a corner too fast you might loose it and loose your zenki but looks good clean zenki

[E7-S14]

sorry for the thread jack but has anyone had first hand experience with cut springs... because all im hearing is mostly hearsay.. i mean every1 is against it (mostly people that have never drivin a car with cut springs)

-I wanna hear rom someone who has had firsthand experience with cut springs... i do understand how it can be dangerous. because they werent made to be cut and whatever but.. they cant be all that bad..

[Jookmasta]

well the problem with them is that the manufacturer didn't just guess at a magic number as to how many coils should be on the spring. they went through the R&D to determine the length needed and the spring rate needed to get a better ride, better handling, and lower stance. now it doesn't take a genius to figure out that if u modify that, you run serious risks.

am i saying it's bad? yup. why? well besides what i just mentioned, back in the day when cutting springs was the only way (besides air suspensions and hydraulics) to go super low with the car, you had a bunch of cars bouncing up and down the street due to the poor shocks and cutting of their springs. Now the guy above us reported no bouncing. Perhaps because his springs haven't settled yet? Perhaps they have and he got lucky? who knows.

We as a forum are just trying to help people in need. Do we want to see his s14 that low? Hell yea. Does it look like that is the right height for his car? hell yea. Was there a better way for him to achieve that height? yup. I know not everyone can dish out the coin for coilovers but you gotta pay to play. If he ends up not having any issues, then that's great. Unfortunately he would need to post up his lack of issues at a later date. Just because it's ok now, doesnt mean it will be ok later.

Hope this helps.

[dtowndrifter]

You could've at least heated them instead of cutting them..

[E7-S14]

You could've at least heated them instead of cutting them..

Does That really work???

[LayNLow240]

heating is more ****ty than cutting them. heating the springs enough to bend them will cause the spring rates to change. which could turn one spring into a progressive spring, or the rates could be a lot lower or higher.

[Anand]

why didn't you just buy coilovers?

[redtop91]

Idiot

[ddgsxr504]

Well I must say that this has been the most interesting thread topic in quite some time.

Being quite the expert on metallurgy and Non-destructive inspection my profession and career for about a decade I can say that I will have to agree with Jookmasta on this one.

Extensive R&D has been done to determine how many coils are needed on a stiffer and shorter spring to give optimum ride and handling.

Lesson 1: When you heat metal you change the mechanical properties of it and cause it to respond different to physical forces. Sure your ride height may be aesthetically pleasing but wait until your springs experience what is called spring sag after their break in period.

Lesson 2: When you cut the spring you are essentially reducing the rated load it can carry thus placing more stress on your struts. Now the spring will only compress so much since there is less of it and your strut will now do way more duty than it was intended for leading to premature failure.

Epilogue:You are the reason that people get modified car citations. Poorly educated people who go the route of fashion over function (much like some women). Congrats on blowing $200+ on TEIN springs only to hack them up.

P.S. Tokico struts suck and ARE NOT intended for lowering applications. The Tokico Blues are meant as an OEM replacement and even if you hadn't cut your springs they would have blown in less than a year. Now you have even less time left.

How ever your car does look nice!! Next time save the springs and get bigger wheels and tires!!

Zenki Love

[E7-S14]

well from reading all this ill never cut my springs.. to think i was thinking about it too

but its true what ddgsxr504 said: get bigger wheels and tires.. itll help get rid of that "fender-gap" we all dread so much

[Lil_JV]

Awesome! Enjoy blowing your tokico's in under 6 months!

[574-240sx]

I have cut and torched springs when I was young and no good comes from it. Yeah your struts will be blown real soon. Like said earlier why didn't you just save for coils.

[whiterps13]

Well atleast it looks better... Get some new wheels now.

[ddgsxr504]

Well atleast it looks better... Get some new wheels now.

Optimism is a form of sarcasm... lol

[zenkii]

how could you chop up some perfect tein springs, why didn't you resell them and cut your oem springs like all the cheap *** civic drops...

[whiterps13]

Optimism is a form of sarcasm... lol

Yup, every negative comment has already been posted.

[homeslicej2]

Jason. What do you think of Eibach Sportlines. I keep hearing how they are basically crap. My car came w/them already installed along w/KYB GR2's and I hear that they blow on applications that are too low, like the Sportlines. You and Jookamasta seem to know what you are talking about. So what do you guys think? I have always heard (until recently that is) that Eibach makes good stuff. Should I start a new thread in the suspension forum to pose this question?

I already tried searching and I got mostly FS stuff. Nothing really helpful.

[Sidewayzzz]

Jesus guys, I don't think he posted with the intention of getting flamed time and time again.

What you basically did is kind of similiar to preloading a coilover. The springs are ment to have a certain amount of coils on them to hold a certain spring rate, what this spring rate does is ensures that your shock only dampens and does not compress beyond its threshold. The first time you compress the shock, since it is oil, beyond that threshold your gonna blow the seal. It may look cool, but its functionality is now shot and it can lead to serious problems.

In your place, I would ride like that for a few months, and before you blow the shocks or before you bottom out on something, and buy Stance or Megan Racing Coilovers.

[le_ryan]

Well I must say that this has been the most interesting thread topic in quite some time.

Being quite the expert on metallurgy and Non-destructive inspection my profession and career for about a decade I can say that I will have to agree with Jookmasta on this one.

Extensive R&D has been done to determine how many coils are needed on a stiffer and shorter spring to give optimum ride and handling.

Lesson 1: When you heat metal you change the mechanical properties of it and cause it to respond different to physical forces. Sure your ride height may be aesthetically pleasing but wait until your springs experience what is called spring sag after their break in period.

Lesson 2: When you cut the spring you are essentially reducing the rated load it can carry thus placing more stress on your struts. Now the spring will only compress so much since there is less of it and your strut will now do way more duty than it was intended for leading to premature failure.

Epilogue:You are the reason that people get modified car citations. Poorly educated people who go the route of fashion over function (much like some women). Congrats on blowing $200+ on TEIN springs only to hack them up.

P.S. Tokico struts suck and ARE NOT intended for lowering applications. The Tokico Blues are meant as an OEM replacement and even if you hadn't cut your springs they would have blown in less than a year. Now you have even less time left.

How ever your car does look nice!! Next time save the springs and get bigger wheels and tires!!

Zenki Love

DAMN....... uhh, yeah , what he said. but it does look nice, If you dont mind hacking up $200.oo the you prolly wont mind droping $900 on a basic set of coilovers.

[RockStar240]

Why isn't anybody bringing up the fact that this dumb **** just screwed up his alignment hardcore I'm not just talking camber, caster, toe. im talking about steering axis inclination, scrub radius, toe out on turns, this numb nuts just guaranteed poor handling and abnormal tire wear.

[ddgsxr504]

Jason. What do you think of Eibach Sportlines. I keep hearing how they are basically crap. My car came w/them already installed along w/KYB GR2's and I hear that they blow on applications that are too low, like the Sportlines. You and Jookamasta seem to know what you are talking about. So what do you guys think? I have always heard (until recently that is) that Eibach makes good stuff. Should I start a new thread in the suspension forum to pose this question?

I am not too familiar with GR2's but I do know the sportlines are the most performance/sport oriented spring offered by Eibach and are inteded to give a decent drop with great handling characteristics.

If you go to the eibach site they should tell you a good desription of these particular model springs.

As for struts I do know that AGX's are the best struts you can get for lowering applications on a 240sx.

If you plan on staying with the strut/spring combo I would ride the GR2's to replacement and then switch to the AGX's..... or save for a decent set of coilovers like stance or megans. I personally run KSports and they work great and give me all the setting options I need and were relatively priced in comparison to new struts. I am however going to start messing around with spring rates to see if I can reduce some of the somewhat harsh ride vs other higher level brand coilovers. I only paid $750 shipped for the so you might want to consider the depending on your budget. If you do get KSport's I recommend runnind a 7kg/6kg setup.

[Alfador]

Yeah I know I know... Every one is like DONT CUT YOUR SPRINGS! But I just wasnt satisfied with the drop my tein springs gave me.. so I cut em, and I am pleased with the result. Its not exactly slammed but I think just about right.. Its not bouncy at all, so Im really happy with it... I cut off a coil all the way around... btw on tokico blues

Not to wish ill on anyone, but when I hear about you totaling I will know why and I will not be able to hold back my laughter no matter how hard I try.

[DammitBobby]

Yea heating springs FTW!!!



It was a PITA to get the components apart