CROWER CAMS IN STOCK!!!!!!!!

[Jookmasta]

so after lookin over the graphs from klattr's link, seems like the V2's didnt make too much of difference from the stock cams power wise and torque wise (like a 6hp difference and a 6 lb of torque difference). the power is alot more linear and it holds all the way to red line instead of dropping off at like 5500 or so................

maybe someone can correct me if im wrong?

[HolyShiznit]

Read the graph again, the V2's made a lil over 20 rwhp peak higher than the stock ones. And more importantly opened up the area under the curve a TON.

[Jookmasta]

i thought that one that made the 20rwhp difference was the v3 cams? i was goin off the file names as in reference to the cams. (crower2 = relates to v2 cams, crower3 = relates to v3 cams). but yes the area under the curve was opened up alot more for either cams

[HolyShiznit]

The graph that Chris posted was of the V2's. The V3's made nearly 45rwhp peak gain. I had the graph on my parent's computer but obviously I am not there.

Those other Crower graphs I have never seen before that Klattr had.

[klattr1]

here's what i gathered from it (from only comparing peak HP and TQ values only at the same base boost wastegate spring level)

reference again: http://www.ka-t.org/klattr1/crowerkacamtest

Cam Gain Comparisionsstock: 387 whp / 380 ft.lbsv2's: 407 whp / 395 ft.lbsv3's: 428 whp / 394 ft.lbs

Dyno Graph DescriptionsStock.jpg shows all the stock cam successful runsCrower1.jpg shows all the V2 successful runsCrower2.jpg shows all the V3 successful runsCrower3.jpg compares is the powerband difference between V2's and V3's

Ivan, correct me if im wrong...

Modified by klattr1 at 8:11 PM 4/14/2006
Modified by klattr1 at 8:37 PM 4/14/2006

[HolyShiznit]

^^^ Those numbers are more along the lines of what I remember and what I had saved.

[Chris@AMS]

The Crower camshafts are designed to work with both the FWD and RWD KA24DE. FWD cars drive the dizzy off the back of the camshaft. RWD cars do not. You MUST remove the dizzy drive from the camshaft if your installing your cams in a RWD car.

Use a hacksaw and cut the drive off the camshaft. Be cautious of the bearing surface next to the drive. You must not nick or mar this surface in any way.

As usual, you can contact us at the shop during normal business hours if you have any questions.

Thank you for your purchase.

[97s14pwar]

how would the v3's do in a n/a 240?

[9sec240]

I am working on getting Chris1's motor built and we will be testing cams in his car NA and then FI... Its going to be a while though...

[Florida240sx]

Ivan got a question for you. Which cam is for what side. I called today and someone said that the littl pin on the end of the cam lines up with the first pair of cam lobes. ^ ( * )OR is this the intake??? ^ ( ' )I beleive the green paint one is the intake correct??

[Florida240sx]

Ivan or Chris????^^^^^^^^^^

[s14det]

They will only go in one-way. If you are putting them in on top dead center (cyc 1), the two front lobes will point out. If you put the cams in the wrong spot, they will be way off. Hope I explained well enough. Put them in the same way people install the s13 cams into the S14 ka

[Chris@AMS]

Ivan got a question for you. Which cam is for what side. I called today and someone said that the littl pin on the end of the cam lines up with the first pair of cam lobes. ^ ( * )OR is this the intake??? ^ ( ' )I beleive the green paint one is the intake correct??

The easiest way to remeber which on is the intake cams is to repeat this saying to yourself "intake - inline"

sorry for the late responce

[FastKA24DE]

I have question what year of the ka24det was it tested on because 91-94 240sx cams hold all the hp good too at least 6500 rpm. na

[Florida240sx]

Does the v2 cams affect idle any? I'm having problems with my car....Just wondering if it should be a bit jumpy...

[Chris@AMS]

I have question what year of the ka24det was it tested on because 91-94 240sx cams hold all the hp good too at least 6500 rpm. na

N/A being a critical part of your statement. Although all the cams are different between years, none of them produce acceptable results in the high rpm range. The dyno charts we have showing this are a set of s13 cams.

thankschris

[Chris@AMS]

Does the v2 cams affect idle any? I'm having problems with my car....Just wondering if it should be a bit jumpy...

Even the v3's aren't jumpy, if you are having jumpy idle problems I would definitely look elsewhere.

[FastKA24DE]

K then why Duy from Texas on a http://www.ka-t.org/duy.htm uses a 91 cams and from his dyno it looks like all of the hp stay all the way to the end, and he runes 10.8

[97s14pwar]

the 91 cams were the best year for the 240sx

[FastKA24DE]

Hey i have nissan altima 00-01 will crower v2 cams drop in without any modefication and do i need to get stronger springs, and what is it safe to rev up to on stock springs.Will stock springs handle 7k rpm.

[Chris@AMS]

K then why Duy from Texas on a http://www.ka-t.org/duy.htm uses a 91 cams and from his dyno it looks like all of the hp stay all the way to the end, and he runes 10.8

there are 2 things about DUY's car that would explain this.

First the dyno chart that he has listed in vs MPH, and does not show torque.

Second, the turbo that DUY uses is considerably large and does not get to its peak effieciency range until higher RPMS where it makes boost. On a smaller turbo, you would most likely find higher tq numbers than hp numbers because of the profile of the stock cams.

[Chris@AMS]

Hey i have nissan altima 00-01 will crower v2 cams drop in without any modefication and do i need to get stronger springs, and what is it safe to rev up to on stock springs.Will stock springs handle 7k rpm.

These cams will drop into the KA24DE for FWD cars with no modification at all. They will be safe to rev to 7k and do not require a valve spring and retainer package.

[97s14pwar]

i got my cams in the car last night, redline is alot easier to reach now. i think my timing still might not be up to par yet. i was just happy the car started right up. car also sounds a bit louder too which is nice. hey chris is there any tunning that can be done to get more out of the v2s?

[Chris@AMS]

i got my cams in the car last night, redline is alot easier to reach now. i think my timing still might not be up to par yet. i was just happy the car started right up. car also sounds a bit louder too which is nice. hey chris is there any tunning that can be done to get more out of the v2s?

I'm sure the fuel curve could use a little tweaking. Toss some 93 octane in it tune it with your AFC (do you have one? or emanage or something?) you might be able to advance your timing by a degree or two with the distributor. The best way to do all of this is on the dyno with a wideband.

thankschris