Craziest motor swap possible????

[HashiriyaS14]

Jordan:

Is that really a Porsche engine on that linked page?

Porsche hasn't ever made a rear-mounted V-engine, have they? Haven't they always been horizontally-opposed?

I mean, I guess it could be from one of the front-engined Porsches, but then why go to the trouble of mid-mounting it? Why not just use an engine from a mid-engined car or a rear-engined car?

Can anyone confirm that is in fact a Porsche engine?

[hannibal]

I'm still not convinced its a Porsche engine. The only V8s they made were from the 928 and the Cayenne. This is a 928 motor. And I cant imagine they had a spare Cayenne V8 laying around. But theyre in Europe, so who knows what kinda 4 cam V8 they might have.

Mounting a FR motor in a MR or RR chassis isnt too difficult. They normally use a Porsche 911 or 924/944 transmission to get power to the wheels. I know MR kit cars (like the Ultima GTR) use Porsche trannies.

But I'm dying to know what motor that really is...

[irqplz123]

I am new to the tuner scene and was wondering if I could get some sound advice. I am getting a 95 240sx and am in between the rb20det and the rb25 motor. What are the advanatages of each and could the car be kept as a daily driver w/ both engines? Will it still be able to have air? I know this is off topic but as I said I am new and will take any advice at this point. Thanks for reading.

[srpowered240sx]

if your gonna race it, heres my idea. install this, enter 14 seconds ago, and drop the flag, at 80mph he goes back the the starting line. bam, fastest quarter mile time ever. consistently run sub 2 second passes. haha

[Mixmastamunkh]

yeah, that'd be pimp. oh and the 3 rotor wankels definitly came from the eunos cosmos and they are more powerful than satan if done right. they reliably hit about 1200 hp. i saw one in a hachi-roku that just smoked a viper. i think that'd be cool, but they're expensive.

-more over i think that if your budget is strictly 10k your probobly not going to be ABLE to make the wierdest engine swap you can come up with.

[DanCouga]

How's this for crazy?
Modified by DanCouga at 7:27 PM 8/13/2005

[Veriest1]

^ BAH! That was my idea... bah.

I can't believe someones doing that.

More pics please... of the motor mounts.

[srpowered240sx]

^fuggin badass

[Mixmastamunkh]

that's not crazy at all. and s2000 motor would not only be fantastic in the 240, but it's also been used in a lot of other cars, such as the ae86 corolla, and atezza's. and such. it's kind of common actually.

[TheOne]

i yea for whoever said the ls1 is light is mistaken. its about as heavy as a regular 350...

the ls1 is all aluminum, not like a regular 350 which is usually iron block.as far as i know the ls1 weights less than an rb engine.

and i would not mine the engine from a S2k in my 240, i mean it would match....it makes 240hp.(crank), and revs happily.

[themadscientist]

My RB20DET-powered Skyline smoked an S2000 so let it rev Of course It was a drag race which is not what the car or that motor were built for. I am sure I would have had some difficulty following that car around a twisty circuit

[Veriest1]

I still want some upclose and invasive pics of the Stook engine in the S13.

I've been keeping my eyes on the s2k forums for a couple of weeks now.

[PantherRacer]

AAAAAAAAAAH HA HA AH HA AH IT'S A VTEC 240SX



ok, now they can go around with a giant v-tec sticker on their back window, and when someone thinks they're a stupid ricer and try to race em they'll get smoked lololol

but seriously, that's a cool swap

[JimmyMethod]

*sigh*That poor car will never see torque again. Poor bastard.

[Mixmastamunkh]

whoopty crap, no torque, if you've ever seen a turbocharged s2k i gaurantee they don't care, those things screeeeeeaaaam.

-side note that vtec pic is the funniest thing i've ever seen come out of nico...that totally made my day!

[Chingon]

the ls1 is all aluminum, not like a regular 350 which is usually iron block.as far as i know the ls1 weights less than an rb engine.

and i would not mine the engine from a S2k in my 240, i mean it would match....it makes 240hp.(crank), and revs happily.

Yeah, the ls7 weights in ~375 and TOTAL, COMPLETE, FULLY DRESSED, FULLY OILED, crate ls1 from GM is 458#'s

And well, seeing how the s2000 is heavier than an s13, I guess the power plant is appropriate (although I do like nissan torque). There's a company in Canada that sells f20 motor sets for 3700.

[koenig]

Hey if u wanna go for power why not just put 2 engines in your car! One powering the front two wheels and one powering the rear two wheels!!! Now that would be awesome. HAHAHAH now that would be a unique engine swap!

[machinegun]

that ones been done, in a hyundai tiburon, but it was a while ago so ill let it slide ;-). oh and he could put the rear engine/trans in forward and the front one in reverse and just rotate on its own axis. talk about some weird burnout marks!

[Chingon]

that ones been done, in a hyundai tiburon, but it was a while ago so ill let it slide ;-). oh and he could put the rear engine/trans in forward and the front one in reverse and just rotate on its own axis. talk about some weird burnout marks!

The guys are local, 400hp per engine. They were in an scc challenge if I recall. Although, personally I like the audi tt twin engine. The idea is not new however, renault did it in the '50s for a rally machine.

[Veriest1]

Quote » There's a company in Canada that sells f20 motor sets for 3700.[/quote]Link? Please...?

BTW, is that 3700 american or canadian?

[nismofly]

S20!

ha, you didnt see that coming!

anyone know how to get one?

[HashiriyaS14]

S20!

ha, you didnt see that coming!

anyone know how to get one?

Yes. Cut your kidneys out with a steak knife, sell them each for market value to some shady individuals in the former Soviet Union somewhere, and then you *might* have the money for an S20....if you can find one.

Anyway, that's the first time I've ever seen an F20C swap in an S-chassis, something I've been talking about for awhile. I've always figured that if you can put one in a 510, you could probably put one in my S14. I really want that transmission....

But yeah, if anyone can get more details on what all goes into an F20 swap into an S-chassis, lemme know.

[nismofly]

well i figured theyd probably run about, what, $75 - $100k or so?

pocket change

[Veriest1]

Quote »But yeah, if anyone can get more details on what all goes into an F20 swap into an S-chassis, lemme know. [/quote]Unfortunatly you live in DC. Otherwise I would offer help for help with the swap. *sigh*

I've been to busy catching my M3 up on it's general maintenance to research this as much as I would like to so I don't have any useful information to pass along. Sorry.

EDIT: My Yahoo! SN is the same as on here. I have a lead on custom carbon fiber driveshafts....

[HashiriyaS14]

Well, I'm a ways away from realistically contemplating such an esoteric swap, but it's been on my mind for awhile.

This year's bonus is earmarked for knocking out some debt, but next year or the year after I might be in the market for some wackball engine transplant.

[s13sr20chris]

anyone doing a f20 to s13 swap can send me their ka. i really dont think the f20 or the s2000 are all that. im sure i could put 3700 into a sr or ka and have na 9000rpm 240 at the crank. that would be cake.

[drifter_for_life06]

plain and simple....pretty much ANYTHING is possible with time and money

i dont know however how muhc a huge swpa would cost

i do kno that ive seen a V8 Geo Metro with teh firewall pushed back 13 inches

[TheOne]

anyone doing a f20 to s13 swap can send me their ka. i really dont think the f20 or the s2000 are all that. im sure i could put 3700 into a sr or ka and have na 9000rpm 240 at the crank. that would be cake.

you try doing a ka that can stand 9000rpm for long periods of time for $3700, i'll go with what drifter for life said, anything is possible with time and money:).

[180fan]

craziest swap:

clone fred flinstone a few times and shove him in your engine bay. Ever seen him move in that log and stone car? Imagine what he'd do in an s-chassis. Shiet, if I'm not mistaken, better than nawwwssssss

[Veriest1]

Got the link. Thanks, you can take it down now.

Sorry it took so long.

This is really a next summer sort of deal. I should have some of my resources liquidized at that point and I'll have the time. Not to mention I still need to do more research.

As for high revving KA vs. S2000 engine I'm looking at the reliability and long term costs more than the upfront costs. The KA would probably need to be rebuilt much more often than the stooks engine. Not to mention the fact I'll get Hondas supercoolovermarketed version of variable valve timing!