coupe vs hatchback

[TheOne]

the hatch/fastback.....cause it looks old and kool specially when you add some kouki taillights.

the coupe looks too ~90's integra.

[bryanmenard]

Agreed!!

And why do hatch owners insist on calling them 'fastbacks'? Having 'fast' in the name doesnt make it any quicker.

Because that's how they were marketed. Truth be told, I call it both. If someone asks me what kind of 240 I have, I say "fastback." But, in casual conversation, I refer to it as a hatchback.

Also, I think a hatchback better describes a VW Golf or GTI....THAT is a hatch. The 240SX is so sleek....just makes it seem more of a "fast" than a "hatch"

As regards marketing...BMW calls the X5 a "Sport Activity Vehicle" (SAV)...that doesn't mean it's not an SUV...it means that's what the manufacturer calls it. I'm sure there are plenty of pompous X5 owners who insist on calling the car an "SAV"...just like there are plenty of 240SX owners who insist on the "fastback" thing.

[GTR]

I didn't know anyone still spoke martian

LOL, My thoughts EXACTLY!

[Florida240sx]

Fastbackl/hatchback....who really cares.Was marketed that way but I refer mine as a hatch all the time. I either say hatch or fastback.Is it really worth arguing over? fastback>coupefastback=coupe with silvia frontVert>well vert is in it's own league of hotnessALL S13's>S14's

[AmoebAssassin]

The FSM as well as the window sticker that came with my car distinctly says "Fastback." So there. Thats what nissan called it, so thats what i'll call it.

By the way, my heart rests with fastbacks. However, i can definately appreciate a slammed coupe on big wheels. Sexxxay!

[xckid]

Coupe= Silvia conv.

Fastback= S15 con .

Coupes do look wierd with pop ups.

[TheOne]

neva though of a fastback with S15 conv......any pics?

[dfw240_EE]

Agreed!!

And why do hatch owners insist on calling them 'fastbacks'? Having 'fast' in the name doesnt make it any quicker.

I have a system for what is a fast back and what is a hatchback. Anything with a flat faced hatch (ala Civic hb, Golf, whatever) is a hatch. Anything where the hatch lifts up and the glass is near horizontal is a fastback. Such as late 1960's Mustangs, Corvettes, Integras, 300ZX's, and of course the 240SX hatch. I believe the body style was originally named such in the 60's because it was a significant aerodynamic improvement over the other body styles of the time. The air flowed over the top and was allowed to gently move downward before it got to the end of the car. This reduces turbulence and low pressure behind the car, hence reducing drag.

[bryanmenard]

I have a system for what is a fast back and what is a hatchback. Anything with a flat faced hatch (ala Civic hb, Golf, whatever) is a hatch. Anything where the hatch lifts up and the glass is near horizontal is a fastback. Such as late 1960's Mustangs, Corvettes, Integras, 300ZX's, and of course the 240SX hatch. I believe the body style was originally named such in the 60's because it was a significant aerodynamic improvement over the other body styles of the time. The air flowed over the top and was allowed to gently move downward before it got to the end of the car. This reduces turbulence and low pressure behind the car, hence reducing drag.

DITTO. MAJOR DITTO

[sleepy180]

'nuff said.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I have a system for what is a fast back and what is a hatchback. Anything with a flat faced hatch (ala Civic hb, Golf, whatever) is a hatch. Anything where the hatch lifts up and the glass is near horizontal is a fastback. Such as late 1960's Mustangs, Corvettes, Integras, 300ZX's, and of course the 240SX hatch. I believe the body style was originally named such in the 60's because it was a significant aerodynamic improvement over the other body styles of the time. The air flowed over the top and was allowed to gently move downward before it got to the end of the car. This reduces turbulence and low pressure behind the car, hence reducing drag.

Yes. Fastbacks do not always even have hatches. Most early fastbacks had fixed rear glass and trunks. It's the lines of the body that determine a fastback, not the type of cargo cover. The 240 is a hatchback AND a fastback.

For instance:This 1968 Ford Galaxie 500 XL is a fastback. It has a trunk, so it's not a hatchback.

This Corolla is a hatchback, but not a fastback.

And the corvette fastback, just like the 180sx, is both a fastback bodystyle and a hatchback cargo cover.

Fastback is a BODY style, like Coupe, and not a name for the cargo lid, like hatch.

[Sil40_Mayhem]

I didn't know anyone still spoke martian

Eh, like I said, someone moved my pills so there's no telling what happened. Oh yeah, 240s suck!!! Hyundai Accent for teh win!!!!1!!1one!one

Dammit, time for another pill...

[Kenrik]

Hey I like the popups on my coup.. but only with the pignose bumper..

[9240sx]

The truth is other car guys well love the coupes,But the Ladies well love the fastback.And thats were it matters the most.LOL Coupes are not very sporty looking.The Fastback is.

[tonynalli]

i used to only like the fastbacks until i bought a coupe, now i dont think that i ever drive anything else. they look soo...oldish, i dont kno. kinda like a half an arrow or something. coupes=teh sexy. and ive found that more girls liek the coupes better. but to each his own

[masticatingcow]

... and ive found that more girls liek the coupes better. but to each his own

I've found that the kind of girl that will judge you based on the car you drive isn't worth knowing. Now, the kind of girl who can differentiate between the fastback and the coupe, heh, that's another story.

[Eikon]

Fastbackl/hatchback....who really cares.Was marketed that way but I refer mine as a hatch all the time. I either say hatch or fastback.Is it really worth arguing over? fastback>coupefastback=coupe with silvia frontVert>well vert is in it's own league of hotnessALL S13's>S14's

Hell yeah!!! Verts rule!!!

[xekushnr]

so...why wasnt this thread closed as soon as it was posted?

[vvaffle]

so...why wasnt this thread closed as soon as it was posted?

probably because the moderators didnt catch it in time. At least people aren't flaming each other and there is actually a good discusion going on. While on the topic, how come noone has ever made a poll about this?

[dfw240_EE]

Better yet, does anyone know the production ratio between coupes and fastbacks? The driftkat site is the best I know of for production numbers but it doesn't break them down by body style.

I consider myself a car guy and I own a fastback. Truth be told it was the first 240SX I found in good condition at a decent price, plus it had some features I liked. Crank windows for example. Actually the one that sold me was that it lacked a spoiler. Of course with those options you guys probably can already guess it doesn't have a VLSD, but that can be remedied easy enough.

[Dattebayo]

Fastbacks were available in far greater numbers in the early years, the later years the coupe owned.

As far as resale value goes, the coupe and the hatch have the same value. The only deciding factor is whether you have a sunroof or not. The non-sunroof 240SX's have the best value because they most likely do not have any leaks to outside weather.

[hannibal]

Because that's how they were marketed. Truth be told, I call it both. If someone asks me what kind of 240 I have, I say "fastback." But, in casual conversation, I refer to it as a hatchback.

Also, I think a hatchback better describes a VW Golf or GTI....THAT is a hatch. The 240SX is so sleek....just makes it seem more of a "fast" than a "hatch"

Good explanation on fastback vs hatchback. I tend to use them intrechangably, but there is a difference.

[Ace 2.0]

+1 for teh Coupe.personally I like the kinda boxy-ish type cars.euro styled cars like BMW but japanese cars like 90s nissans are squared off and I love older Maximas and Skylines,the new ones are just meh.IMO a 240 is a 240 nomatter if its a coupe or a fastback.But I like teh coupes body style.

[turbo_lover]

I am not a "I like the fast back better" or vica versa kinda guy. I LOVE them both. The coupes look good with s13 head ligfhts. So does a FB. A FB looks great with kouki tails I am not sure if there is an alternative for the coupes tails . . . They both look great IMO. if i were to choose, well.... i would get a FB. not to be a bandwagon jumper, but for the looks of it. I have liked them since 2002. { When they werent so popular } but i would like to have a coupe too. I would get BOTH !!!! grr . . .

[dfw240_EE]

Yes. Fastbacks do not always even have hatches. Most early fastbacks had fixed rear glass and trunks. It's the lines of the body that determine a fastback, not the type of cargo cover. The 240 is a hatchback AND a fastback.

For instance:This 1968 Ford Galaxie 500 XL is a fastback. It has a trunk, so it's not a hatchback.

This Corolla is a hatchback, but not a fastback.

And the corvette fastback, just like the 180sx, is both a fastback bodystyle and a hatchback cargo cover.

Fastback is a BODY style, like Coupe, and not a name for the cargo lid, like hatch.

You learn something new everyday, I didn't mention it last night, but I never knew that there was a trunk equipped fast back. Shows how much I know about old cars. I guess when I think of it the later model Supras were fastback-ish cars with trunks. In fact alot of cars these days have roof lines that slope into the trunk (often at the expense of rear headroom!).

[PantherRacer]

[dfw240_EE]

Well, see that is a hatch, not a fastback with a true trunk. I meant more like the Ford posted above.

[ArticDragon192]

'nuff said.

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