Could a diesel 240 work?

[ZenkiFactor]

I have an interesting idea and a great reason to see if it's possible. Alright well is it possible to or is there a diesel Nissan engine that could be swapped into a 240, 300, or Harbody? The reason I bring this up is because a friend of my dads is considering producing bio-diesel on a huge scale like 5000 gallons huge and the end cost after taxes and we would need to make a profit would come to plus or minus fifty cents on a dollar fifty per gallon.

Secondly if you live in Central Florida do you know anyone that gets rid of large amounts of cooking/vegetable oil? Or would you be interested in bio-diesel? Or if you have any swap info for a Nissan diesel swap for a S chassis or a Z chassis.

Lastly the thing about bio-diesel is that it burns cleaner and is more efficient than dino-diesel. We tryed some out in a TDI Passat and it averaged 55MPG!

Disadvantages?:1. Bio-diesel is made of partially of methanol and may not work with standard fuel hose.2. Custom drive train?

Advantages:1. Turbo?2. 40 - 50 MPG3. I'm not positive on the details but there are some tax write-offs on bio-diesel.

Just looking for some thoughts or intrest.

[rxm6]

Sure!!! Any thing's possible. I could put spinner's on my lawnmower and drive it to work and wear a silly hat while doing so. I think the correct question is the interest in it. I, and so do others I think, have a lot of interest in saving gas especially at 4 per gallon. However, I personally don't think 240 is the right car for it though. 240 is a performance oriented sports coupe. Only until recently have I seen diesel engines approach any sort of widely used performance standards (Diesel Jag S-Type) But those are brand spanking new, and I'm sure a pretty penny to buy and a couple more pennies to convert a 240 for the different engine. And even then, a gas powered engine can be upgraded to walk all over a diesel engine. However, if there is no interest in performance and you just like the looks of your 240, then go for it. It would be an interesting project for sure and worth note.

[Gottoknow]

Um.......what he said.

[blinker_fluid]

I'm fairly sure that nissan sources all of its diesel engines from renault. Not to long ago my brothers friend was riding a diesel powered quad the thing was sick

[morbid]

I'm sure it's possible withe a little bit of fab work. Don't just look for Nissan engines. Think about company's like Volvo, Saab, Mercedes, Dodge, Chevrolet, etc, etc. I think its a really cool idea.

And, you're car can still be performance orientated. Whats not performance orientated about a 300whp 500 wtq engine in a 2500lb rwd chassis?

Oh and I think you forgot

Advantages: Being able to tow other cars with your 240.. lol

[moulton712]

why does that 240 smell like french fries?

that's bio-diesel

[ZenkiFactor]

why does that 240 smell like french fries?

that's bio-diesel

[00James]

has ne 1 besides me driven a deisel? the reason we mod 240's is to make them fast. it would be a step backwords. Sure they have power buts there still slow.

[morbid]

It depends what you drive...

A modded turbo diesel pickup with 1500 tq or a 5000lbs early 1990's s class diesel.

[speeddocsson]

Ok i was at a Datsun get together at road atlanta called walter mitty get together and there was a guy there who put a Nissan LD28 motor in a 240z it fit perfectly.(That is a nissan diesle motor) Not 100% on this but i think it came from an old maxima or stanza. Either way it will fit. I say do what you wanna do. Who cares what the trends are, Go for it.

[xckid]

Mercedes has 2.5 4 cylinder diesel turbo charged already. It might be a good platform to start at idk ?

[jshirl89]

dude that would be awesome. and you can make diesel engines extremely powerful. they have full size trucks running like 10s in the 1/4 mile. do it and take lots of pictures.

[whiplash willy]

A disadvantage of the diesel would be its 2000rpm redline. Also, they may have crazy torque, but just as soon as you get some usable power, you are going to have to shift. Have you ever driven a diesel? Their characteristics don't mesh well with sports cars.

BTW: I just watched an older top gear episode, and they were comparing the current bmw 540 to a 530 twin turbo diesel. They said performed pretty well for a diesel, but still cant be compared to a petrol engine. Even with all of the engineering BMW put into that engine, it still only revs to 5k rpm and doesn't have a great powerband.

[thefro526]

Sounds like it would be a cool thing to do. I would think it would be awesome to be able to run my car on vegetable oil and get awesome gas mileage but then again I could get awesome gas mileage if I practiced but lead foot ftw... sometimes.

[AE240SX]

That would be so cool to see a 240SX diesel drag car. Diesels don't need to rev, they make torque..... and lots of it. Anybody ever seen that fifth gear video of a Taureg V-10 TDI pulling a 737?

2000 RPM redline? only if your driving a semi.

My dad drove an E-Class Diesel as a demo for a year. That car is very quick for a diesel (389 lb-ft of TQ) and he averaged 40 mpg and he's got a lead foot the size of Texas. Actually, the E320 CDI is faster 0-60 than the E350 petrol burner.

threadjack/

the technology exists right now to make fuel efficient CLEAN BURNING diesels that satisfy american driving habits and that could get 35+ mpg even for a big car. but the oil/car companies won't do it because there too busy shoving their heads up their a**** trying to develop hybrids and or hydrogen BULLSH*T.

like the tahoe hybrid..... making that piece of junk hybrid is like trying to put a single band aid on a gunshot wound in the chest. kind of pointless.

oh my gosh, i've been ranting. oh well

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[darens13]

10

10..... is this that dude that posts random numbers?

[Asmar]

A better question is why?

[Asmar]

10

10 what? Tryin' to get 10 posts so you can post in classifieds?

[00James]

yeah but those trucks have really big and heavy engines, were talking about a 2.4 liter 4 cyl.

[xckid]

i think the mercedes 2.5 liter diesel would do good in a 240...That thing beats me me and my friend did a pull from 50 to idk when....and at first i pulled on him good but once his turbo kicked in..he flew by me ...and thats cuz i was already hitting my gov.

[Chukidori]

Why not produce ethanol....Any Gasolene engine can run ethanol to my understanding. It just requires adjusting the fuel maps in the ECU and changing the ignition timing (And replacing your fuel hoses)

[xckid]

zerothread/216205

been worked on.

[Lev_96_240sx]

For those of you that think diesels are slow, look a bit into Audi's LeMans race cars, you know, the ones that win all the time. When you do, you will find out that they are all turbo-diesel engines. Diesels can be fast, but most aren't. Why? Two reasons, one is that they tend to be a bit heavier and they have way too much torque for regular cars to use. They are good in trucks and SUV's but usually the ones that make it to cars are found in large, heavy cars. The second reason is that Americans in general don't like smoky, stinky diesels, not knowing that the new line of diesels, the TDI's and BlueTEC's are in fact cleaner that gasoline engines and so most diesel powered vehicles in the US are non-performance vehicles as there is simply no demand for them. As far as a diesel 240 is concerned, it all depends on the transmission, but in any case you will end up with a torque monster.

[cmfireman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvKYUM5NkWk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4BrHzlOOQg

[ZenkiFactor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvKYUM5NkWk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4BrHzlOOQg

That first video pissed me off... how the F is it that were paying 3.50+ per gallon and there is bio-diesel that is 1.50 a gallon and we could be getting 100+ MPG's?

BTW I want that OPEL...

Edit: I like how at least 3 people have WKO 240's in SE Trim, that's pretty cool.

[PhillyDaKid-S13]

Was moseying on by, and thought Id take a peek at this thread. did a lil research, and apparently nissan did in fact produce not only diesels, but turbo diesels as well:

1999-present Nissan ZD engine — Diesel 3.0 L — ZD30DD, ZD30DDT, ZD30DDTi straight 4 cylinder

1999-present? Nissan YD engine — Diesel 2,2 L 2,5 L 2,7 L — YD22DDT — YD25DDT — YD27DDT straight 4

1983-1985,1991-1997? Nissan CD engine — Diesel 1.7/2.0 L — CD17, CD20, CD20T, CD20ET, CD20E straight 4

1985-1999? Nissan RD engine — Diesel 2.8 L — RD28, RD28T, RD28Ti straight 6 cylinder similar in design to the RB series engine

And just another little nugget to add....supposed one were to import one of these engines. Theres a good chance (possibly, mind you) that it will cost less than an sr20det engine, with all the mark up and what not import companies do for those who want to bandwagon (and before you say it, thats not a jab at sr20 owners, but to the companies doing the markups, so dont get ur gstrings in a bunch).

If one were to do this type of swap, it probably would be best to stick with a nissan family engine so that there will be possible part interchangeability, more access to those parts, familiar fsm's, etc etc. quite personally, after seeing that video of the Opel sportscar cmfireman posted, I would be kind of interested in seeing something like this.

Lets not be so hasty to cast out new ideas, people. Thats how innovations occur. Yes ignorance is bliss, but shelling out close to 5 bucks a gallon for petrol once summer rolls around sure as hell isnt. Can I get a witness? lol

[brkn240]

I dug this thread up with a search. Instead of just coming in and starting a new thread, I wanted to see if it had been discussed.

I'm trying to find more information on some of Nissan's modern, small diesels that never crossed the Briney sea.

I didn't think they existed until I was surfing wikipedia for JDM Nissans. The only engine I saw referenced was the CD20. I found that it came in small FF commuter cars.

Just wondering if anyone could point me in the right dirrection to where I can find out more about Nissan's diesel line up from the 90's and later. I'm a diesel technology student, and I've always loved Nissans. I knew they made box vans and roll backs with big semi style diesels, but I want to find out more about the small ones.I have thought about a diesel 240 alot, but I know it would be a pretty tough swap. Even if you could get your hands on an engine, it would be near impossible to get parts for it unless your best friend was an importer or lived in Japan or Australia or something.

If I don't get much of a response here, I'll post up a new thread in general chat.

[gumby74]

Nissan makes folklifts. Some of which come with 1.3 or 1.5 liter diesel engines. The early Sentra(?) I believe was also offered with a small 1.3 diesel engine as well.In regards to performance, what a lot of you guys are completely missing or generally are unaware of is the gearing. You know, the advantage that all domestic muscle cars have in regards to raw acceleration. Gearing can make a less powerful car faster, but the torque to turn those gears has to be there first. The powerband in a diesel is short for sure, but the torque will allow you to turn ridiculous gear ratios with minimal effect on effeciency. My Peterbilt gets 10mpg and a full load (about 18 tons) affects mileage minimally. Only the heaviest cargo and uphill pulling has any effect on mileage.The engines ability to pull offsets pretty much any weight thats added, however true performance driving will be affected by the weight up front.Also keep in mind trucks and large cars with diesel engines are not geared for speed. And there is always the option of propane injection.

[4WOFURY]

VW TDI's get upwards of 40-60 MPG anyway if driven right. Saying the biodiesel gave it amazing fuel mileage is a false claim. They are a bit peppy too, and can be modded (for even more mileage or more pep). There are VWs getting upwards of 700 miles per tank.

Audi's new R8 is TDI powered, and performs amazingly imo.

http://www.tdiclub.com for more info.

[PyroTecK]

hell if an electric 240 can work y not a deisel one... i think it was on dirty jobs on discovery channel that they showed the guy using used cooking oil in his datsun pickup