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OIL is trading "futures" at +96 bucks per barrel currently. Gasoline is around 2.75, +/- per gallon here where I shop, South LA, at the fuel sellers, non name brand, and the average price is higher at the names.

I don't recall reading any post on the issue although I haven't been around here long.

Question is: Cost of gas not an issue with Q45 owners?

or is the answer: If you need to worry about the cost of gas, you can't afford the car

Then again I don't see any slackening of cars on the move around here and the sales lots are slam full with non gas saving cars. The economy cars are relegated to the less traffic part of the lot and in fact have to be searched for. People around here are into BIG SUV's and dually four door trucks. Most make the Q45 look like a small car by comparison.

Not knowing how to read/guess the future accurately I am thinking that there will be, soon, something that will trigger gasoline prices to rise. Usually it's something like supply disruptions, refinery blowing up and going off line, or something???, at least that is what is said in the financial news as a reason.

Anyway the lady with the 2000 Anv. Edition Q45 for sale that was the subject of my first post has lowered her price down to $10200.00 from $11000.00. Had it not come with the Nav system I would have made an offer, however, much lower than the asking. But for someone that likes that kinda stuff the car is really nice.

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Have your fun while you can. It eventually ends.

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Cost of gas has never been a concern of mine.

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Hopefully members will increase mainteance and O2 replacements, tire selection, and plenum/egr cleaning to optimize the use of every drop and learn to modify their behavior to minimize wasted trips and charge passengers the true cost per mile.

Gasoline is still cheaper than proper mainteance and repairs on old Q.

UK gasoline is still ~~ $7.60 per US gallon...............100p per liter

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If I was commuting long distances on the freeway to work and/or or sitting in stop and go traffic most of the time I'd be concerned. It's a waste of gas. In my case I have an easy commute with neither of the above and only fill my tank every 8-10 days. Premium is back up to $3.37/gallon in Sacramento. The price of fuel is not an issue and won't be. Now if I was young, not making much money and driving 20 miles each way to work in a poorly maintained Q I'd be in the poorhouse.

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RAP wrote: If you need to worry about the cost of gas, you can't afford the car

Had it not come with the Nav system I would have made an offer, however, much lower than the asking.
You got it. True of any car. Cost of gas has not increased as much as the value of the dollar has decreased.

Most here regard the once updated CD-ROM based navigation as a liability, not an enhancement. In no way comparable in functionality to later DVD based system.

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maxnix wrote:You got it. True of any car. Cost of gas has not increased as much as the value of the dollar has decreased.

Most here regard the once updated CD-ROM based navigation as a liability, not an enhancement. In no way comparable in functionality to later DVD based system.
Interesting.I wonder if a CD based NAV system could be de-activated without affecting the rest of the systems that use its display. If so, then a down and dirty lowball price would make a Y33 with NAV a great deal.

Just thinking.........

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Just buy and store a few wrecks as spare parts, then any car becomes affordable.

In the South having a few junkers at home is a badge of passage, especially now the we can't water flowers or lawns or trees or wash our cars.

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I live in a small town, I get anywhere I need to go in 10 min or less on my bike. I figure with 3 tanks of gas you can buy a nice bike...and when riding a bicycle you have the right of way and can usu. get to the closer places faster.

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Right of way? For bikes?

Out here we use cyclists as moving targets.

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RAP wrote: If you need to worry about the cost of gas, you can't afford driving and should look for alternate means of transportation.
Fixed

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i just put it in perspective. my 25' proline w/ 1-225 h.p. mercury optimax burns a gallon of fuel for every 2.5 miles. my bigger boat (38') burns 30 GALLONS PER HOUR @25knts. my old Q seems cheap by comparison. but i cant get the Q to troll no matter what. for fish that is.

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Empty bridge with a long fishing poll?


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That's how I feel. Gas is a major part of owning a Q. And also one of the smallest things. (Does that make sense?)

Skimping on gas and filling up with regular will end up costing you more in the long run.

I learned that. Nothing but 92 or 93 for me.

Plus it's like 2.69 a gallon. Not too bad. The most I've paid for a fill up was $38. I was at a 1/4 tank.

Plus, it makes your car feel faster.

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One time a friend filled my Q up with regular unleaded fuel and I got in it and it started running like sh**. I got looking around and asked him what he did to it and he said all he did was fuel it....with regular unleded. I ended up getting a bunch of octane booster and putting it in and it seemed to do ok after that....another one of my friends that drives a BMW got his car filled up with Unleaded and it threw 6 error codes. A few of the injectors had gone bad. It is at the most $5 or $6 at the pump more for premium.

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LMAO @ six error codes. That's crazy.

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I've calulated that for me, even buying a car like a Civic Hybrid at $300 mo lease $500 (a deal a friend of mine recently got) I still come out around $80 bucks a month ahead. That's driving approx 18K annually and adding in $2000 a year for maintainance. Cost savings in gas is canceld out by the fact that I have no car payement and insurance and registration are dirt cheap on my 94 G50. As for the cost to the environment? Well, let's not talk about that right now!

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maxnix wrote:
Most here regard the once updated CD-ROM based navigation as a liability, not an enhancement. In no way comparable in functionality to later DVD based system.
When I was looking at I30s and I35s I contacted the manufacturer of the nav system to inquire about updated CD discs, which I was told are available.

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tkd_q45 wrote:I've calulated that for me, even buying a car like a Civic Hybrid at $300 mo lease $500 (a deal a friend of mine recently got) I still come out around $80 bucks a month ahead. That's driving approx 18K annually and adding in $2000 a year for maintainance. Cost savings in gas is canceld out by the fact that I have no car payement and insurance and registration are dirt cheap on my 94 G50. As for the cost to the environment? Well, let's not talk about that right now!
This is what keeps me sleeping at night. I coudl pay more to pay less, or pay less to pay more. in the end, i'll spend $60 at the pump for no car payment, in return for having an amazing automobile to take me across the country or to the grocery store.


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I would say in Seattle it costs 50-60 dollars to fill up. Only premium in the whip I roll regardless. Been through a engine and I have no plans on replacing the current anytime soon. And yes the guides are metal on my 90. I'm going to post a pic of it in the days to come. The price of 92 octane is $3.49. It's all about what station and how far south or north you go. It's weird out here.

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After just one major auto accident, the cost of driving a heavy, solidly-built vehicle becomes insignificant.

30 MPG means nothing, if you ain't around to enjoy it.

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MattB wrote:When I was looking at I30s and I35s I contacted the manufacturer of the nav system to inquire about updated CD discs, which I was told are available.
Maybe, but who wants multiple CD (one for each region) from 2001?

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Most of us who drive for fun and have cars that mean something to us don't even think twice about fuel costs (at least at their current prices). It's just one of many, many operating costs. I'm not exactly rolling in the dough and still can't see myself ever being in a situation where $3/gallon gas puts me in a bad spot. Sure, it's not ideal, but I really don't see how a lot of people can make such a monstrously extravagant ordeal out of it. I guess if it really bugs you you're using the wrong form of transportation. I also think that if gas prices have THAT much affect on your budget that you need to make major changes, those changes were probably a good idea in back when gas was only a buck-something anyway.

Slightly related:I managed a sweet 32mpg in the Max on my drive to Las Vegas last week (freeway only with most of the trip in the 85-95 mph range). Broke my previous record of 31 (also set on a SLC to Vegas cruise). Not bad for a basic SOHC V6 with 235 thousand miles.

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Company gas card BABY!

Or I would not have bought the car.

My job moved me from working 3 miles from my house to now, 70 miles away. As soon as the new position was official, I confirmed the gas card and then traded in my Mitsubishi Galant for the Q.

I used to watch that mileage computer thingy all the time. Thought it was kinda cool how such a big car could get 29 MPG on the freeway.

Now? I don't even care. I gotta co. gas card.I think I'm dropping about $120-$140 a week though.

That'll teach 'em to move me so far away from home. I even gas up the wifes Benz once in a while out of spite.

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brymax wrote:I even gas up the wifes Benz once in a while out of spite.
Let's hope the company bean counters aren't lurking on the board


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Is your company hiring?!?!?

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*Napoleon Dynamite voice* "Lucky."

Sweet deal. Even though the 70 miles (each way?) is a hassle, at least it's enjoyable in a Q. How is an F50 anyway? Major difference from a G50?

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Uh, you got me there brah. So what the hell, I'm a newbie, so I'll just say it.

What's a G50?

Is that and older Q that these other guys are always working on and modifying?

My car is the badest. I specifically bought this car cuz I knew this drive was going to suck!

I drive 70 miles. Probably 50 miles of which running through Santa Monica or "The South Bay Curve".

Other option? The 5fwy thru downtown LA area. Sometime 2 lanes.

There is no greater punishment to place on another human being. So cal traffic, specifically LA area is the worst.

Don't even go there D.C., New York, Miami. I've driven your cities and it doesn't even compare. Your roads are smoother. Your drivers are better and your traffic ain't **** compared to LA.

You get sent to hell and then piss off the Devil? He sticks you in a car and puts on the 405 at rush hour, ah aight?

Yeah, the Q makes it better. But you might be able to read into my comments and tell I'm still a little bothered.

I'll tell ya one thing. I've got a Mercedes and I definitely prefer the Q over the Benz when it comes to driving the beat up freeways of LA.

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The G50 is just the first gen Q. The one I have. I haven't driven any other incarnations of the Q45, so I just thought I'd ask if there was a big difference.

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I used to have a 95Q and now have a 2002 Q.

F50 handles better especially in sports mode. The acceleration on F50 is a lot better. The 2002 have a lag while downshifting otherwise it quick and smooth.

I have not driven a 2005 but they have changed the gear ratios in 2005 and its even fast than 2002.



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