Corrections, Retractions, Apologies

Post by **miteymax86** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

After seeing the new Z4 in more than one color, I am retracting any and all statements about it's ugliness. Just don't buy the things in that crappy coffee color they're trying to sell it to you in. Get the black or blues, as they seem to be the right color for that car. The Miteymax has spoken, you may disperse.

Post by **Jesda** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

The 7-series remains ugly as sin. Thats why BMW is already redesigning it.

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

I thought I saw a Z4 in Olive Drab green. What a color.

Post by **yashin** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

The Z4 is one of the oddest cars i have ever seen. One day i'll see it and think that it's really beautiful, the next day i'll think that it's the ugliest car i've ever seen. I think that it comes down to the colour of the car, what angle you look at it from, and the light that it is in. It's a two faced car, kinda like that girl on that episode of Seinfeld.

p.s. th 7 series is sweeet

Post by **I30T** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

haha, good seinfeld reference. i thought it was fugly, mugly, pugly, and ugly ugly. but then i saw a nicer one, and i liked it. I think it does depend on the time.

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

z4 is very nicei feel, however the 7 series makes me wanna vomit. not sure on how i feel about the redesigned 5 series, why mess with perfection?

Post by **yashin** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

still think that the 7 series looks nice, what in particular do you guys not like abou it, alot of people say they don't like the back, i personnaly think it looks nice

haven't seen anythin on the new 5 series, have any pics??? the old 5 series was gettin to out of date, it looked to old

Post by **Stoneage_Turbo** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

they had a 7 series ont he osbornes the other day , man ozzie trying to use the voice command stuff was a riot

Post by **yashin** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

Stoneage_Turbo wrote:they had a 7 series ont he osbornes the other day , man ozzie trying to use the voice command stuff was a riot

hahaha that's pretty fun, the problem is that those machines only know how to interpret english, not crackhead!!

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

mmmuuummbbllleemmyymm starrrrt you fummmmummummumumm, SHAAAAAAAARRROOOONNNNN!!!!!

I like the 7 series, cool car. I saw one of them Z8s, it was HOT! But of course they all are crap compared to my 12 year old 240 :pface

Post by **yashin** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

J-Spec Tuner wrote:mmmuuummbbllleemmyymm starrrrt you fummmmummummumumm, SHAAAAAAAARRROOOONNNNN!!!!!

I like the 7 series, cool car. I saw one of them Z8s, it was HOT! But of course they all are crap compared to my 12 year old 240 :pface

haha you just described every episode of the osbournes every made

once at a local car hangout by my house, an old dude (40 ish) pulled up in a z8, that thing is soooo unbeleivable, i could barely beleive it, one of the coolest most badazz sports cars i've ever been around, i mean i've had experiences with 360 modenas,nsx's, sl amg's, and some others, but there was just somethin bout the z8, can't really explain it

Post by **UncleBen** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

I like 7series and even Z4's. I rode in a 3.0 Z4 with an auto transmission. The thing would scoot. Rode nice and handled amazingly, also.

Post by **Tino** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

I hate bmw.

Post by **skydragoness** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

Tino, just because a BMW ran over your foot that time you broke into that old lady's garage..remember?.. but you thought she was inside the house but she was *totally* in the car, and she saw you in her rearview mirror and put it in reverse.

a lesson well learned.

anyhow. the Z4 is very avant-garde-y. i don't think it would look bad in black. but i don't care for roadsters much (aesthetically), i think of them as boats minus the sail-apparatus.

i really liked how BMW was doing subtle changes in the 98-99-00-01 model years, but they're going waaaay off the deep end with the 7 series re-design, and the 5 series just looks like a mini-7 from what i recall.

p.s. tino, i'm kidding about the old lady-home-invasion incident

Post by **SmithSR** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

Doesn't the old 5 series look like a mini-7 ?

BMW's finest work were the early to mid 90's 840/850 variants.

Post by **Mayhem_J30** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

have you guys seen any of those aqua colored M's and Z's? The rents saw one on vacation and told me about it and they wanted to get it. I figured...oh a turqoise colored Z3 how non-hederosexual. Then SNAP! The next day I saw a aqua M3, brand new, on the road and I must say I didn't hate the color, almost liked it. A person would mostly get tired of it after a while, but it's different and not what I expected.Oh yeah, Z's suck balls. Except for that hatchback roadster M thing.

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

Mayhem_J30 wrote:Oh yeah, Z's suck balls. Except for that hatchback roadster M thing.

*cough**cough* Z8 *cough*

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

SmithSR wrote:BMW's finest work were the early to mid 90's 840/850 variants.

:ylsuper

I love those cars, pop-up headlights and all.

Post by **Mayhem_J30** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

J-Spec Tuner wrote:*cough**cough* Z8 *cough*

my bad. absent mindedly left that out

although IMO i think it looks like a mix between an aston martin and some sort of Porsche. Not a bimmer at all.

BMW is changing their look anyway so who knows. I'm just not a fan of roadsters anyway.

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

I definatly agree that BMW looks are going down the drain, but the performence is still top-notch.

Post by **yashin** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

SmithSR wrote:Doesn't the old 5 series look like a mini-7 ?

BMW's finest work were the early to mid 90's 840/850 variants.

yessss!!! i love those cars, they are frickin amazin, but there are so very very little of them, i've only seen like 5-10 ever

oh, and i think the the M coupe is still pretty ugly, but it's fast, same thing with the M roadster, i think it looks like a civic hatch on steroids

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

bmw says screw you guys, we rule the luxury market

Post by **Def** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

Tino wrote:I hate bmw.

Eh, the image of BMW owners sucks more than anything. You'd really have to drive one to understand.

When I say they're good cars, I mean they're GOOD cars. The engineers definitely know what is up and aren't afraid of putting performance in the car.

I don't think you can beat the M series of cars for high performance street cars that are still comfortable. They just make all the right compromises and put emphasis on all the right parts.

Again - you'd have to drive one to understand. :pface

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

^^^ "Thats my dawg, Thats my dawg" - chris tucker

Post by **skydragoness** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

well said Def. they're more of your real world performance cars. but not so much at a real world price. but then again a lower price would mean a compromise somewhere along the lines...

as far as the 8-series goes.... :drooling:

Post by **Jesda** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

Chris Cagle (Z4 and 7-series designer) is a god damn crackhead. He needs to lay off the drugs and put the pencil down.

In terms of design, automobiles often look best when they mimic the desirable features of women's faces and bodies. A curvaceous Stingray out-shows an 84 Vette any day, and for good reason. The 80s Corvette lacked any lumps, humps, symmetry, and curves that made the Stingray almost look... should I say... doable?

Another thing... symmetry. Symmetry and evenness is one thing a lot of psychologists and human biologists believe makes someone of the opposite sex more attractive. The Z4 has that awkward dipped crease in the side that does not correspond to the top of the door, making it appear out of place and inconsistent with the thematic layout of the rest of the body. The rear is tolerable, but the front has an exaggerated oversized nose. The nose assists in making the Z4 appear somewhat aggressive, but fails miserably in execution, making it look like an out of place front end tacked on by some kid who rummaged through a junkyard. It has absolutely no match with the rear. I mean, would you go for a woman whose eyes were bigger than her butt?

And the 7 series? The trunk lid looks cartoon-like, distracting an onlooker from an otherwise clean-looking car. The front end has awkwardly curved lenses with no clear intent or meaning behind them. Its as if Cagle said "Hey! Lets make that **** curvy cuz Im a crazy mofo and they pay me the big bucks!" and went to town on it. The whole car looks as if it was three different cars slammed and welded together: front, middle, and rear...

I like the Maserati Spyder and any Aston Martin. Those cars are the mechanized and motorized artistic depictions of sex.

-Jesda

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

" I like the maserati spyder and any aston martin"

Whoa slow down risk taker, NO ONE likes those cars : )

Post by **Tino** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

I know their well built cars with performance handling styling and all the other bs, I still hate them along with mercedes cadillac lexus and lincoln.

Post by **Jesda** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

I love most of the other brands, but MB is a joke (quality). I owned one so I have room to talk. But a Silver Arrow convertible would be fun.

Lincoln? Gimme an LS V8!Cadillac? An XLR!!!Lexus? Okay maybe I dont care for Lexus...And maybe nothing from Acura interests me either.Aston Martin... gimme a V12 Vanquish!Jaguars are still cool of you avoid the shoddy X-Type. Styling is hard to beat (except the S-type that looks like a chubby 97 Taurus).

-Jesda

Post by **[Zero-S]** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:41 pm

The CTS is ugly as sin. Yuck.

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