Cops Shoot Family Dog-News Story

[Repo Man]

I'm trying to find out the rest of the story on this. It was on the "Today" show this morning but I had to leave for work before it came on. They showed a teaser of the police video where the cop was blasting the family dog on the side of the road with a shotgun in front of the kids for no apparent reason.

I'd like to know what exactly was going on before my blood boils. It's been in the back of my mind all day and is really bothering me. If anyone knows what happened, please post it up. I've looked on all of the NBC websites for the story but cannot find it.

Thanks for your help.

Andy :angryfire

[Mayhem_J30]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/....html

[AZhitman]

Wow. Normally I'm very protective of the L.E. community and personnel at large, but this one looks bad for the PD.

[Mayhem_J30]

Wow. Normally I'm very protective of the L.E. community and personnel at large, but this one looks bad for the PD.

i'm the same way. i try to stand up for the poepoe because they're getting bashed on the internet 24/7. mostly the good things are dismissed and never spread across the internet nor are the good things talked about on the internet. but in this case....:fight

[Repo Man]

Thanks for the link. So much for "protect and serve". And I'm not generally down on cops either, but goddamn! What the hell do you have pepper spray for? That's the kind of thing that one would do to a snarling Dobey, or some other dog that could pose a lethal threat. I just don't see how the cop thought he was in that much danger.

I guess it's easy to judge not being in the cop's shoes, but it just doesn't seem like that was necessary.

If it were my dog, they would have one hell of a civil suit on their hands, no doubt about it. Of course, anyone that shoots a 26lb beagle would have to be the world's biggest pansy. Maybe he is...

[MetaOrbit]

Damn! This story has gone national?!? This thing has been all over the local news in TN for days...I never dreamed it would go this far.

[Former_240_s14]

How udderly dreadful that article is. what the hell is this world comming too when a cop has to shoot a 26lb beagle???? i would have to be that cop, think about all the animal rights activists that are gonna be on his arse. but from the looks of it, he deserves it. good thread repo.

[darkeagle]

I'm glad it wasnt our dog. heh Cookeville is just like 5 or 10mins up the road from me. I live around here. So I've heard about it alot. Cops up here made a mistake long ago when they went into a house for drug bust and instead came in on an old couple. The old guy thought that it was someone trying to break in and grabbed his riffle and one of the cops shot the guy and he died.

Animal getting shot up here isnt un heard of before. Just became big though now since cop shot the dog. Its sad hearing about that in your own town though that cop shoots a dog. Last year there was a gang going around killing some animals and posioning them. My cousin lost couple dogs b/c some jerk posioned it. I mean i'm shocked about that happening. I wouldnt want someone killing my pets. I would be mad and hurt. I've raised my 2 cats from time they were kittens. THey were abandoned. My mom's dog is the sweetest as he can be and I couldnt think of a cop shooting him. He's a s-hitzu, mom's fav dog. Sorry for long post but since I live in this town or outside it I figure I post something about it.

I have had to put my cat down for liver problems and it was worst thing to ever go thru. I've had a dog of mine die and I was lied to about it. I got the dog on my 15thbday b/c my cat had died 2 days before it. We moved and gave it to my cousins and they had to kill it b/c it caught heart disease. I was mad b/c of that but I knew only thing they could do.

[574-240sx]

I heard about this story a couple days ago and they said the cops didn't do anything wrong. Thats a bunch of crap you didn't have to shoot it, point black in the face. I seen the video on t.v. I would be afraid of the dog for getting dirt on me not trying to hurt me.Just like on the cops the dog bites and maul the suspect. A 26 lbs. dog is not going to kill you. The police let their police dogs maul the crap out of people they are chaseing. When the guy is in hand cuffs the dog is still tearing apart the person, only if it is for 30 seconds. The dog should not still be trying to tear off the persons arm, even if he commited a crime. Police butality and harasment needs to stop!!! But as soon as you fight back or touch the police dog you are assulting an office, the dog.

[UncleBen]

one more reason i dont like cops to much. i mean i kno they (most of the time) protect us and stuff, but there are just different stories that i have heard, this one included, that just makes me have no respect at all for the police.

[Repo Man]

No no no, the dog that was shot wasn't a 26lb beagle, that's my dog. The dog they shot was a boxer/bulldog mix from what I've read. I was saying that if they shot my dog, a) they would have to be the world's biggest pansy and b) they would have an unrelenting civil suit on their hands. They have already been put through the press release, obviously.

The cops seriously need to go back through a tactical scenario assessment type course because their assessment of this one SUCKED.

[AZhitman]

The police let their police dogs maul the crap out of people they are chaseing. When the guy is in hand cuffs the dog is still tearing apart the person, only if it is for 30 seconds. The dog should not still be trying to tear off the persons arm, even if he commited a crime. Police butality and harasment needs to stop

1) NEVER have I ever heard of a handcuffed suspect being anywhere NEAR a police dog.. Standard procedure dictates the dog be restrained before the suspect is cuffed. K9 units don't MAUL people - they restrain. You've been watching too many movies.

2) 90% of suspects who are brought down by a police K9 unit require NO MEDICAL ATTENTION! Know why? Training - typically the animal bites hard enough to restrain, and rarely if ever even breaks the skin. Nobody lost an arm - again, too many movies.

3) Police brutality? Harassment? WTF? How about the harassment the PD takes from the misinformed idiots they have to deal with every day? Maybe if these idiots would do as they are told (stop, freeze, lie down, drop the weapon, get out of the car, etc.) they wouldn't get the next higher level of force applied against them. And unless your first name is Rodney, you don't know crap about brutality.

[Stoneage_Turbo]

the use of lethal force on a less than lethal target is the problem , most officers are issued batons , or even the butt of there gun ...afriad of a dog bite officer? ***** .......

officers are human and do make mistakes , but the discharge of a firearm (and takeing the time to grab the shotgun from its holster inside the car) near a highway on a less than lethal target isnt right at all , the officer should be issued a BEE BEE gun as his sidearm , if he had to walk back to the car to get a shotgun to blow fee fee away he had time to think about what he was doing

[AZhitman]

Speaking of which, ever seen what a 16" ASP (extendable baton) can do to a pissed-off pitbull (launching out of a parked pickup truck in a parking lot and trying to attack a certain Q owner that you all know and love)?

Poor basturd never felt a thing.

[Stoneage_Turbo]

hehehe , i hate pitbulls , they serve no purpose , damn the breeder that came up with that idea , only in america would **** fighting not be good enouugh

[Stoneage_Turbo]

dude they bleeped out c-o-c-k , i ment it as the rooster not the falice ...damn the word filter

[skydragoness]

i agree stoneage, pitbulls, ha, a sad, sad breed

what cracks me up the most is when i see two thugs come into the pet store i started working at with two pitbulls on 2ft long chain leads and acting like they're hard or something. PUH-lease. I've heard of well-trained, obedient pitbulls (that are probably neutered) that make decent pets. But honestly, usually the people who buy 'em have no idea what it takes to own such a dog and the extra training they need--and THOSE are the ones that end up getting loose in the streets and mauling kids.

anyhow, i've read the thread, and i agree with some of AZ's comments about the police getting a bad rap. but this is a ludicrous situation, that officer should be ashamed. Anybody who could kill a dog for no apparent reason and feel no remorse is close enough to one who would kill a human being

[Tino]

saw it on the news... And for the sake of not starting an argument I will leash my opinion.

[skydragoness]

that was the worst PUN ever Tino! Rot in eternal hellfire! :rolleyes

[Blazin Hondas]

I saw this on the news too. He shot the dog twice with a 12 gauge, point blank. Bullsh*t... That was unneccacary force. What if the dog was just chasing him becuse he was running. If you've ever been chased by a dog, you know the faster you run the faster the dog runs. One more bad rap for the cops, as if they dont deserve it. It takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch. Its not all cops dont get me wrong, but all the other cop protect the one bad one, thats what is the worst thing about that situation.

[darkeagle]

Well I see it as cop was just doing what he was trained and all whether it should or shouldnt have happen. This case it shouldnt have happen but it did. But yet how was he to know when that dog got out of the car that it would be nice to them??? I would be mad/upset if it was my animal but thats how I see that. They were at wrong place wrong time.

[skydragoness]

well it's just like what stoney said, he had time to think about what he was going to do as he went to go get his shotgun. If the dog was truly lethal (in common sense thinking) the dog would've attacked before he had a chance to do that. Also, not to mention the family the pulled over probably did nothing wrong (to warrant ordering them out on the ground) and they were pleading to the officers to secure the car so their dogs wouldn't get out. Those cops wronged that family.

[AZhitman]

what cracks me up the most is when i see two thugs come into the pet store i started working at with two pitbulls on 2ft long chain leads and acting like they're hard or something. PUH-lease. I've heard of well-trained, obedient pitbulls (that are probably neutered) that make decent pets. But honestly, usually the people who buy 'em have no idea what it takes to own such a dog and the extra training they need--and THOSE are the ones that end up getting loose in the streets and mauling kids.

Anybody who could kill a dog for no apparent reason and feel no remorse is close enough to one who would kill a human being

Agreed, and agreed.

Re: Thugs with pits, you should see them here in AZ (it's an ethnic thing, unfortunately) - and everyone knows pitbull terriers don't understand Spanish... Lots of maulings here, almost weekly (thus my baton response). Sad, sad situation.

[skydragoness]

glad AZ agrees with me ( i mean, why not?)

yeah, maulings happen everywhere, actually in Wilmington, Delaware (the major city here) Pitbulls are illegal/will be confiscated if owners do not license them. So a lot of people have moved out of Wilmington to the suburbs bringing their miscreant dogs with them, and some attacks have happened out here and in Hockessin (the boonies out here in DE). Wherever there are stupid dog owners, will dog attacks happen. As for me, i have a Miniature Pinscher!

[AZhitman]

MinPins RULE!!!

I'd have one, but my 2 big-a$$ Labmix's might accidentally squoosh it.

[Repo Man]

Ok, I've got my Nomex on for this, but not all Pits are bad. They're really not. However, they're not for everyone. They are more aggressive naturally than most other dogs but they are smart and generally behave as they're trained. Train a dog to fight and to kill, and it will. This holds true for Dobeys, Shepherds, Rotties, Ridgebacks, Mastiffs, etc.

Unfortunately for Bully Breeds, the lowest echelons of society have taken such dogs and mistreated them, inbred them, mistrained them, and so forth. They are very good dogs when treated, handled and bred as they should be. I lived with a pit bull in college for several years and he was nothing but good to me and my roommates, but was very protective.

If I were attacked by a dog, pit bull or otherwise, it would certainly get the ASP baton or a round from my Glock .357. However if a dog is coming toward me wagging his tail with his tongue hanging out, I'm not going to shoot him. There is a difference, just like when your buddy comes to you with a bat and says "Hey repo, check out my sweet new DeMarini." vs. "I'm gonna bash your head in, repo you rotten basturd!"

Two different scenarios with two very different responses.

[AZhitman]

No Nomex necessary - You're right on. Only dog that ever bit me was a Sheltie. Just like SUV's aren't to blame for accidents, and guns don't kill people, dogs aren't to blame for the stupidity of the owners.

p.s. Repo, you have to admit, you ARE a rotten basturd.

[Repo Man]

p.s. Repo, you have to admit, you ARE a rotten basturd.

Oh if you only knew... :evilhaha

[darkeagle]

I had a FULL blooded chow/wolf. She was a beautiful dog but we had to give her up b/c in my mom's decision that we wouldnt be able to handle her well anymore. The dog listen to me always. We went to get her shots and other dogs were around, this guy stood behind us with 1 big collie and some other dog that was 2 or 3x my dogs size. Something happen and my dog tackled this big dog down to the ground and had it pinned at the neck ready to kill.

She was my protector at home as well b/c you wouldnt dare to bang on our door when she was there, that is if she never seen you before she would go off but overall you never see a bad temper come out of her while playing but she was vicious. I wish I still had her b/c she was my baby and she wouldnt let harm come to me. But mom said dog like that you never know how they will act so we gave her away to another good home.

[Tino]

Hey Im for the damn dog don't get me wrong but If I say whats on my mind Hitman will truly become a hitman.