Continental DWS

[Em35X]

I'll need new tires around Fall and these were on the top of my list. Are they relatively quiet?

[mycross3]

I'll need new tires around Fall and these were on the top of my list. Are they relatively quiet?

best tires I've ever owned. You won't regret it.

[antzrus]

I'll need new tires around Fall and these were on the top of my list. Are they relatively quiet?

best tires I've ever owned. You won't regret it.

Ditto, and quiet. You know, the only reason I try to keep this thread around is because the proper tires really make all the difference w/the M. You can spend 60K buying one of these machines, mod it 'til you go into the poor house, but what makes contact w/the road is only the rubber. The whole shebang rides on the rubber. That's really what will make or break your driving experience and the safety of you and your loved ones. It's the rubber.

[paulypotz]

Just got my full set of DWS delivered today..will put them on this weekend!!

[antzrus]

Just got my full set of DWS delivered today..will put them on this weekend!!

Tell us about them!!!

[EniGmA1987]

[ Continental Extreme Contact DWS
$125 80

Where can I find DWS's for only $125 each?

[antzrus]

[ Continental Extreme Contact DWS
$125 80

Where can I find DWS's for only $125 each?

Not the size for the M. I believe that was a quote for a smaller size tire on Consumer Reports. Altho, I did pay $133 ea (TireRack) for my first set of ContiExtremeContacts for my M back in Dec., 2007.

[EniGmA1987]

The price on these just went way up. I was looking last week at the tires as I need a new set when I get my next paycheck, they were $179 for the 245/35ZR19 size. Now I look today and the price went up to $205. So I think I am going to pass on these tires once again and stick with my trusted Hankook's that perform better for my area anyway. I just wanted these cause they look like the tires would last a lot longer :/

[antzrus]

Yup, like everything but our paychecks, the price is going up rapidly. The longevity of these tires is still in question. I luv'em because they made my tramlining and slipping and sliding machine really a pleasure to drive. Regardless of all your mods & hp, your rubber is where your machine meets the road.

[antzrus]

Bump-Some fellow was interested in the DWS et al.

[antzrus]

Bump again...

[antzrus]

Bump, again...

[Nomad32]

I will reply here.

I picked up the DWS for my M in October last year. I have about 9K miles on them and so far so good. I don't drive aggressively (very often), so I don't get too excited about how soft the sidewalls are. These tires are quiet, smooth and a helluva value. (75K miles on the car at this point)

The DWS (dry, wet, snow) is perfect for the Seattle area because it rains like EVERY FREAKING DAY - and the few times a year we get snow, my car went from "un-drive-able" to "damn"...

For those that don't know, the DWS imprinting on the treads will wear as you add miles to the tires. The "S" will be the first to go, as you will no longer have great snow traction, then wet traction will wear, then down to the last. My tires have wear, but the "S" is still clearly visible and the tires seem to be holding up really well - especially for an area that is infamous for people driving studded tires well into April - Morons...

I highly recommend the Conti DWS as an everyday tire and am very thankful that I bought them when I did.

** Also - I think that I paid about 125 each by calling and negotiating with the sales manager at the local Tire Discount. I was referencing Tire Rack's prices when I called. Also, I ended up buying 1 of their warranty things for like $10, and the sales guy threw in the other 3 for free - discounting the tires a bit more for me.

[antzrus]

Weird? Anyone else w/this issue? It has been at least since spring since I put any air into my tires. I check them all the time with the in car and an out of car meter. The damn things have not lost any air at all. When cold in the am it has stayed the same 35 lbs for months..?

[Modeler]

The DWS on my Lexus GS 450h that I'm selling have worn out much faster than what the tread wear index or warranty would suggest. I'd say they are about 70% worn after less than 20K miles. Since I'm selling the car, I'm not going to pursue warranty replacement /refund.

[antzrus]

The DWS on my Lexus GS 450h that I'm selling have worn out much faster than what the tread wear index or warranty would suggest. I'd say they are about 70% worn after less than 20K miles. Since I'm selling the car, I'm not going to pursue warranty replacement /refund.

Wow, ExtremeContacts generally are known to wear out sooner than expected-but so much at 20k miles? I've got 15k on them and I don't notice any significant wear yet. Of course, I drive like a lively 64 year old..!

Anyone experience the no air leaking phenomenon?

[axefire]

Continental Extreme Contact DWS tires are the cats meow! Just put them on, they are the best tires...

[The00Dustin]

The DWS on my Lexus GS 450h that I'm selling have worn out much faster than what the tread wear index or warranty would suggest. I'd say they are about 70% worn after less than 20K miles. Since I'm selling the car, I'm not going to pursue warranty replacement /refund.

Wow, ExtremeContacts generally are known to wear out sooner than expected-but so much at 20k miles? I've got 15k on them and I don't notice any significant wear yet. Of course, I drive like a lively 64 year old..!

Anyone experience the no air leaking phenomenon?

I've never added air either, Tire Barn always uses nitrogen (no charge) and I'd never used nitrogen, so I thought that might actually have something to do with it. However, I got a hole in one and paid Big O Tire to fix it because I didn't want to drive to Tire Barn, so it doesn't have nitrogen (only 70%, anyway), and I haven't had to add air to it either. Bought the tires in January @ 89,598 MI, got the hole in May @ 99,549 MI, so I'll have to find the paperwork on that, but it was some time ago, and currently have > 111K with the S still showing (so over 21K on the tires). I got my Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Pluses at 49,957, though, so it's no wonder that they were useless in the snow almost 40K later (they were great in the snow the first year, definitely better than the DWS on the only post-January snow experience I had, but so much louder too).

EDIT: Updated to include hole date & mileage

[antzrus]

So I'm not the only person w/this effect; there are two..? How can a tire lose air (it's got to) so damn slowly?

[kluken]

Continental Extreme Contact DWS tires are the cats meow! Just put them on, they are the best tires...

If only they were nto so hard to get. For my M37S backordered with no ETA so went with General GMAX (owned by Conti as well). So far digging the tires, very responsive and nice ride, but a tad noisier than I expected at speeds over 45MPH, but not as bad as the Potenzas RE050s. Rolling resistance seems much lower as well early to tell but seems like my MPG is up about 1 as well.

[axefire]

So I'm not the only person w/this effect; there are two..? How can a tire lose air (it's got to) so damn slowly?

I used to get this with my riken raptors... very noisy tires compared to the DWS, and again tire pressure constantly fluctuating ...

I believe the tires lose air mostly due to temperature changes - I.E. if it's cold, the air contracts thus tire pressure is lowered...if it's hot...the air expands and the pressure rises... drive around with the tire pressure screen up, you'll see the pressure rise as you drive more and the tires get warm... Otherwise I'm just Cliff Claven and have no idea what I'm talk bout ...

Also I noticed if the car sits for weeks without driving you'll lose pressure... not sure about this phenomena - anyone? Beuler?

[nemo1]

Hello all, have not posted in awhile.

I am constantly adding (and in some cases during the summer) subtracting air from my DWS tires. I think it has to do with the large temp swings here in St. Louis. funny, I am constantly adding/subtracting air from our Duelers on the Yukon as well.

[antzrus]

Maybe the reason why the air pressure remained stable over the past 5 mos is because the temp here hasn't deviated much. I checked today and the constant 35 when "cold" previous months was down to 32-33 today and it was about 40 degrees outside for the first time in months. Yes, how ignorant of me-I was starting to think the DWS was made of super dense rubber molecules the air couldn't get out of. I also once believed in Peter Pan..!!

[szh]

So I'm not the only person w/this effect; there are two..? How can a tire lose air (it's got to) so damn slowly?

Hmmm ... I have to admit that this surprises me.

Tires (including on the Continental DWS that I use now!) will generally lose about 1 psi every two to four weeks. This is consistent on all four tires for my car, so it isn't a leak or valve problem or something like that. (Weather temperature, of course, can affect this too.)

So, I check every other weekend and correct a bit as needed. An electric air pump saves my back now - I used to use a foot pump.

And always follow the same measurement times and rules for consistency: check when the tire is truly cold (like sitting inside a garage overnight, so that the sun does not warm the tire in the morning either).

By the way, I use a very accurate gauge - not absolute accuracy (which is +/- 0.5 psi), but it reads down to 0.1 psi, so gives me good relative accuracy. The actual setting I use now (happens to be 35 psi - given the accuracy ) is based on tread wear measurements ... I just change 0.5 psi at a time - either way - till I see relatively even depth measurements happening.

On one set of tires, I also used 33psi (measured weekly, since this was below safe value) for a few months to correct for over-inflation wear down the center of the tire and then went back to "normal" pressure.

Z

[antzrus]

So I'm not the only person w/this effect; there are two..? How can a tire lose air (it's got to) so damn slowly?

Hmmm ... I have to admit that this surprises me.

Z

Really, I actually went from April until a few days ago w/the "cold (first thing in the am)" @ 35 psi w/out any addition of air. I use a pretty fancy electronic "racing" gage that is very accurate as well.

Maybe it's the air here in the Prozac Capital of the World... http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles ... cville-usa

[nemo1]

hmmmm, now that I have been reading the above, I am starting to doubt where I have been maintaining the PSI. I believe I have been keeping it at 33. Is 35 PSI correct for an 08 m35x using the DWSs? I thought my door panel said 33.

thanks

[antzrus]

My '06 door panel says 33 psi too. I've found that 35 psi seems to be the sweet spot (for me) when cold w/these tires.

[chelubi]

Having got rid of the Goodyear RSA's two weeks ago, I strongly recommend everyone person do so. They are the worst tire that I have ever had on the 25 cars I have owned over the last 35 years.

I am not anti-Goodyear as I put on Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetricals. Different tread pattern, different ride. They drive in a straight line, no tramlining, and tons of traction.

Makes you wonder why how every service manager who drives the M35X with RSA's is remarkably unaware of the RSA tire problem. What about Infiniti Executives?? Maybe they drive the M45 which does not have this problem. (I had an M45S and it never tramlined.)

I have had my car jerk off the road onto the shoulder because I hit a crack in the road. My wife would not drive my car because of its instability. This is definitely a safety issue.

It's not the car.... It's the RSA tire.

[szh]

Really, I actually went from April until a few days ago w/the "cold (first thing in the am)" @ 35 psi w/out any addition of air. I use a pretty fancy electronic "racing" gage that is very accurate as well.

I use an "Accutire Racing Gauge" ... is that the one you have?

Z

[szh]

Having got rid of the Goodyear RSA's two weeks ago, I strongly recommend everyone person do so. They are the worst tire that I have ever had on the 25 cars I have owned over the last 35 years.

I am not anti-Goodyear as I put on Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetricals. Different tread pattern, different ride. They drive in a straight line, no tramlining, and tons of traction.

Makes you wonder why how every service manager who drives the M35X with RSA's is remarkably unaware of the RSA tire problem. What about Infiniti Executives?? Maybe they drive the M45 which does not have this problem. (I had an M45S and it never tramlined.)

I have had my car jerk off the road onto the shoulder because I hit a crack in the road. My wife would not drive my car because of its instability. This is definitely a safety issue.

It's not the car.... It's the RSA tire.

Agreed!

I consider the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 to be an outstanding summer tire, but the RSA is simply mediocre - particularly given its price. Most people dislike it a lot.

Z