I saw a lot of mentions in the what don't you like about your rogue thread. I'm more curious about why the picture on nissanusa.com has auto on the two knobs yet people say their's don't; there's a big problem with that.Ticmxman wrote:I have not seen any complaint per say about the climate control system's lack of an auto function. The only topic I know of is the one below relating to AC and recirculate air switches.
Thread for reference = zerothread/293883BrianV wrote:
I saw a lot of mentions in the what don't you like about your rogue thread. I'm more curious about why the picture on nissanusa.com has auto on the two knobs yet people say their's don't; there's a big problem with that.
Maybe it only comes in the premium package, although it's not listed as a premium package option.Lightforce18 wrote:in the actual car it says Low not auto.
I always put mine on low instead of controlling the fan speed. It gets the job done. On low my windows defrost good, and it doesn't get too hot in my car.
Yeah, but the Rav4 Limited has dual-auto climate which is why it's the only Rav we've considered to date. I'd prefer the sport, but for that reason and the availability of leather, we can't get the sport.Ticmxman wrote:I'm pretty sure that there is no auto climate system in any model Rogue. Not a big deal at all to me but it maybe to you. I d like the basic design of the system with the fan speeds are variable not just 4 speeds like the RAV4.
Maybe it only comes in the premium package, although it's not listed as a premium package option.
Do you have the leather package, maybe it only comes with that?Lightforce18 wrote:
mine has that package. it says LOW not auto.
I had the auto climate in my g35. Its a neat little feature but nothing to go WOW over.
Why are you even considering a Rogue? You need to go spend $50k and go get something with a luxury sticker on it.... not an economical gas-friendly small SUV meant for us "common people" who can turn a knob when they are hot or cold or when they want to start their car.BrianV wrote:Do you have the leather package, maybe it only comes with that?
Anyways, yes it is something to go WOW over. I absolutely cannot tolerate manual control. It's always too hot or too cold. I also find when riding in other people's cars with manual it's always too hot or too cold. Often considerably too hot and considerably too low. I generally find with climate controls that you can set them and they're relatively comfortable and only require minor modification. Also, you get in the tendency of putting it on HIGH heat when it's cold and freezing cold when you're hot. Auto CC does that for you and doesn't start blowing until coolant temperature is optimal, and doesn't start blowing until the AC is working well. It adjusts to the coolant changes and changing temperatures outside.
Another benefit is that if you were to get remote start, you could remote start and have it automatically start working to get to that temp. Where I live, we have rapid temp swings and after parking at work for 9-10 hours, the setting I left it in the morning might be the opposite of what I want.
It's become a necessity for me. I can live without dual climate control, but I need at least single zone CC. I've had it on all cars except one since 1997 and that was the one thing that bugged me the most.
I'm sure this will being a plethora of arguments regarding how some people don't like it and they prefer manual, or that with manual they can get more precise, blah blah. That's fine, and fine for you, but for ME it's a big deal; I love auto climate control. There's a reason why all luxury cars have it and none don't; it truly is a luxury. Just the thought of driving my sister's camry last week without it makes me cringe.
For what it's worth, I wish I could get rain-sensing wipers on more cars. I hate that my 07 G35 doesn't have them. They're absolutely awesome. Maybe I'm weird, but I HATE having to constantly adjust things and luxuries like rain sensing wipers and auto climate control are big tickets for me. Ironically, I prefer rowing my own gears though.
Anyways, back to the topic at hand, what's wrong with the web site then. I really feel cheated; I whole-heartedly assumed it had it since it's clearly pictured exactly like the 350z's on their website.
Looks like Nissan screwed up with the web pics of the interior climate controls. I see the auto selection in your pic. The 08 Rogues say low on the fan speed where the web pic says auto. I'm suprised it took this long for someone to spot this. Hey maybe thats a pic of the control in the 09 Rogue. Harvyeyes you probably said it best the Rogue is a fine crossover, and for what it costs it's a good value, but does it have every possible gizzmo no it doesn't.BrianV wrote:I sent a message to Nissan corporate.
LOL classic response. They sell the Rogue with heated seats and mirrors which is more luxurious than climate control which is pretty common feature today. There are other cross-overs with these features including the CRV and the Rav4. I can list a ton of cars under $25k that have climate control; this is not a super exotic/luxury feasture so I'd think the Rogue would have it, especially with other features like heated seats. I'm not looking for things too crazy like intelligent cruise control, or even navigation. I've already justified to myself the value of climate control; it's a bummer this vehicle doesn't have it, and for the record, I'm no longer considering the Rogue so you don't need to worry about that. If the 09 comes out with it and I haven't purchased a new SUV by then, then the Rogue will be an option.Harveyeyes wrote:
Why are you even considering a Rogue? You need to go spend $50k and go get something with a luxury sticker on it.... not an economical gas-friendly small SUV meant for us "common people" who can turn a knob when they are hot or cold or when they want to start their car.
GLEs all came with leather and power seats but they did not come with heated seats. Heated seats were an option and a rare one at that. I also found that on 4th gen Maximass, ABS was actually a kind of rare option as well. In California, it was nearly impossible to find heated seats anywhere.albertwang16 wrote:It is very possible Nissan has reserved some of the features to put on the 09 line. both my girl friend and I have a 95 maxima GLE and her came with heated seats and mine didn't.
I think it is a pretty common game for car makers so they can claim "new features" or "add-on value"
Makes sense but there are tons of features they could bring in for that. I just think with some of the other options (bluetooth, heated seats, leather, smartkey, etc.) that climate control is a no-brainer. At least make it part of the premium package or something.albertwang16 wrote:I see, that could be it then. Although I still think it is possible for Nissan to hold up some options as a long term strategy to encourage new buyers later on.
there always gonna be new cars, and new features.BrianV wrote:
Makes sense but there are tons of features they could bring in for that. I just think with some of the other options (bluetooth, heated seats, leather, smartkey, etc.) that climate control is a no-brainer. At least make it part of the premium package or something.
Anyways, other features that could be added another year:
- Nav- Backup Cam- Bumper Radar- Power passenger seat- Auto up/down on more windows- Remote Start- Memory Seatsetc.
The skys the limit for providing more features later on. I'm of the camp that one entering a new segment needs to blow it out and not save some in the tank for later. In fact, my biggest gripe about Nissan is how they're constantly changing things in their vehicles every 1-2 years. You can never have a new vehicle. Many times it's big changes like engines. Other companies do this less frequently (Acura, Toyota, BMW, etc.). I've owned over 10 Nissan products and all of them have had many changes from year to year.
95-96 Maxima vs 97-99 (looks changed dramatically for the better)00-01 Maxima vs 02-03 (3.0 liter to 3.5 liter, looks changed)00-01 I30 VS 02-03 I35 (3.0 liter to 3.5 liter, looks changed)03-04 G35 vs 05-06 G35 (260HP engine to 298/280, looks changed dramatically)03-04 350Z vs 05-07Z vs 08Z (287HP vs 300HP vs 306SAE HP)Xterra added a supercharged version a couple years later.
These are just some examples, but it appears the 09 G35 Sedan will be a G37 instead so that supports it still. Although they hold their resale fairly well, it sucks that you buy a car and then the next year or so a series of awesome changes come out.
BMW almost never changes their vehicles and they have longer refresh cycles. Now granted, I know we're not talking about BMW, but take the Rav4, it's now three years old and is relatively unchanged. If the Rogue came out with all of these features later, even for additional price, there would be some regretful 08 owners.
I may test drive it some time I'm bored. The irony is, before all of this, there really wasn't a car that met my needs. A particularly configured Rav4 did but I've yet to find it ever at any dealer in Texas (Limited 4wd, leather, jbl, and moonroof). The Rogue however I have been with the exception of this climate control thing.Lightforce18 wrote:th
there always gonna be new cars, and new features.
I'd suggest u drive the rogue. If you like it buy it. If not then wait for the 09 maybe it will have the feature you want.
Bummer, I was holding out hope as other than this missing feature, this car is perfect for us. Maybe we'll make the sacrifice... Our MDX is still under warranty until November so it's best for us to just hold out until the end of Summer or so. Maybe I'll catch a peak at what the 09 model has.Lightforce18 wrote:i have leather also
it says LOW
Yeah it's a great feature, however, I find most people don't use it properly. My g/f's brother just got his first car with Auto CC and he still uses it like manual. He doesn't trust the system, when he's hot he goes down to 60 degrees and turns the fan all the way up. I explain to him, just leave it at 70 and it'll cool down just as fast. He disagrees, saying, "The fan never turns on fast." I reply, "That's because it doesn't start blowing hard until it has cold-air to blow; you don't want it puking hot air from after you parked." and that's where we agree to disagree.Jaded TC wrote:I suppose it would cost too much to have it changed over to auto in some way? Or trading out the system with another from a parted out Nissan... I would like to have auto climate control too. I've never had it but would probably not want to be without it either after having it.