Civic Si compared to a G35 6mt (1st gen)

[thahman]

I'm irritated... I know these two cars are in different categories, but there was this Civic Si next to me side by side at a light, light turned green, the Civic drove at a normal pace... I am about 800 feet in front of it, suddenly it floors it and starts coming toward me... so I step on it, I was already in 4th gear going 45-ish so I drove... but by the time I realized it was trying to catch up to me, it was on my tail and stayed there while i was flooring it..

I eventually let off the gas because I was driving too fast for a street. It just passed right by me. I expected to pull away from it? It looked like it was brand new. No plates yet. GRRR!

I know Hondas and their I-VTEC are known for their top end performance, but I didn't think it could keep up at those speeds. Maybe it was moded.
Modified by thahman at 8:06 PM 2/25/2009

[kmckis1029]

200 something hp and light weight... power to weight ratio came into play

but if it was me i at 45mph would of drop my gear down to 3rd... then came back to fouth just before 3rd redlined... i think that race would of went different... you gave him a chance by not switching gears... just like him we have the bulk of our power in high rpms...

[thahman]

I don't know why but when I'm near 5,500 it just feels so rough and blah...

I should've downshifted. I suck when it comes to chosing the right gear under stress.

[kmckis1029]

oh you were already around 5500rpms in 4th? well he just kept up then... i wouldnt recomend down shifting that high into a gear

but yeah the right gear makes a difference and how you would of accelerated...

at least you didnt get beat by a HONDA lol

[thahman]

Haha, I didn't mean then- I mean in general... in the 6mt, it just feels rough driving up to red line. Not so refined compared to the VQ30DE / -35HR.

[Jacko3]

The g at 45 mph and flooring it, won't move. it will remain unresponsive until it reaches higher rpms.

2nd gear is the real deal for 45 mph - 60mph, and in each gear shift, try to get up to 6600rpm. You will love it.

[kmckis1029]

i go over 5k rpms every chance i get... i just love the sound and power of the g35

[Jacko3]

The VQ35DE engine is untamed. Wait till you add a testpipe. I downshift all the time to a lower gear for fun, especially when i want to hear the aggressive sound of the engine and that sweet sweet stillen exahaust. In 2nd gear i have achieved 62 miles per hour---redline. Redlining the car in each gear as you shift, is a blast.

[kmckis1029]

+1

1st gear is quick...2nd gear is a beast (about 60mph at 6600rpms)3rd gear is nice (about 100mph at 6600rpms)4th and fifth are ok

[Jacko3]

+1

1st gear is quick...2nd gear is a beast (about 60mph at 6600rpms)3rd gear is nice (about 100mph at 6600rpms)4th and fifth are ok

Well said! I agree. 3rd gear is the gear I feel that is most underpowered. Without test pipes, 4th gear is also good.

But since I added test pipes, my 5th gear is completely insane. The horsepower and torque generated at high speeds is impressive. I have whooped V-8s with test pipes in 5th gear---it isn't even close in some cases.

[kmckis1029]

i dont think ill ever do test pipes.. but HFC once my warranty is up... there is no emmissions requirment where i live in ga... i found that odd...

lol but i dont even have a spacer yet.. so i ve yet to see the real power of the engine...

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

I think the test pipes are next for me!

Also you just need to learn how to shift...

Aint no honda going to beat a G stock for stock

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

i dont think ill ever do test pipes.. but HFC once my warranty is up... there is no emmissions requirment where i live in ga... i found that odd...

lol but i dont even have a spacer yet.. so i ve yet to see the real power of the engine...

Yea we are going to work on you still lol!

DJ

[4drmadness]

get spacer, hfc, headers, and tune. u will be one of the fastest g's around. oh and a catback exhaust as well. o think motordyne is gona be the best

[thahman]

Yeah- I thought a mid-pipe/Ztube would have helped.

I'm still curious to find out how much quicker the Rev-Up engine is with its higher redline.

[ACoupe]

I hate Hondas with all my heart.I don't care how well built the Civic is, or what it's performance is, it's a big steamy pile of $%#!.Is that an unfair statement for anyone who drives one? Probably, but I don't care because they drive a Honda, and worse still, a Civic.

I've listened to idiots go on and on about how they'd rather have a turbo'd Civic than an Aston, or Porsche, etc. etc.I'd rather see every Honda on earth shot into the sun, just so my local Coffee shop's parking lot could be rid of the idiots who stand around with their Civic and Prelude hoods popped looking at their lame @$$ "engines".

End Rant.

[kmech_7]

get spacer, hfc, headers, and tune. u will be one of the fastest g's around. oh and a catback exhaust as well. o think motordyne is gona be the best

Umm...what? one of the fastest G's around....I think that would be me and my friends...lol. Us and our 450-900hp G's.

That would be the fastest around. (I have to give you s***)

[kmckis1029]

yeah with FI yall will always be... i doubt i would ever FI my engine... so lets change that to "one of the fastest NA Gs around"

[kmckis1029]

i ended up dropiing $350 on a version 1.8 Valentine One that one of my homeboyz wasnt really using... couldnt pass up that... they $400+ everywhere used

next on my list is a spacer and im still debating on a torque damper...

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

Yeah- I thought a mid-pipe/Ztube would have helped.

I'm still curious to find out how much quicker the Rev-Up engine is with its higher redline.

My red line is 7000 but it really is 7500 to the limiter lol

your motor is 6500 or 6800rmp? at 260hp mines 298 at 7000rpm and more at 7400 rpms lol

DJ

[4drmadness]

i meant one of the fastest g's that wont blow up.

[tollboothwilley]

My red line is 7000 but it really is 7500 to the limiter lol

your motor is 6500 or 6800rmp? at 260hp mines 298 at 7000rpm and more at 7400 rpms lol

DJ

The manual transmission from 2003-2004 was rated at 280 HP. Your peak HP doesn't continue to climb after 7000 and I believe the peak is somewhere around 6400rpms.

i ended up dropiing $350 on a version 1.8 Valentine One that one of my homeboyz wasnt really using... couldnt pass up that... they $400+ everywhere used

next on my list is a spacer and im still debating on a torque damper...

You should get a torque damper. I have 2...thats why I'm selling one. You can buy it if you want its a good deal

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

The manual transmission from 2003-2004 was rated at 280 HP. Your peak HP doesn't continue to climb after 7000 and I believe the peak is somewhere around 6400rpms.

Yea the manual coupes.. the manual sedans were only rated at 260hp!

and by taking the motor to 7500 rpms when I shift into the next gear it will not be down in the low 5k rpm range but more in the 5500-5800 range.. So you stay in the peak longer! The lowest RPM that you might achieve peak is at 6400rpms. anything after that is still very close or higher as the motor turns faster and faster.

I had a long discussion about this will Gwoods and we concluded the same thing!

[Sentientbydesign]

How is your redline at 7500? That's only available on the HR...

[tollboothwilley]

Power across the board for the Sedan and Coupe in 2003-2004 was based on the same engine. On paper they show less for those self-conscience coupe owners who think they need a faster car.

This has been proven by many many people.

[thahman]

Yeah I don't believe the sedans were detuned by 20 HP. Like any car company would, they want to hype up the sales of their "sport coupes" so of course they want to advertise it with more power.

The "280" HP coupe definitely isn't faster than my car.

[Lunatic1120]

yea you effed up...you should of down shifted..your car would of launch it self...and the si wouldnt even have been able to come to play...learn how to shift and how to power shift if you wanna race...

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

Power across the board for the Sedan and Coupe in 2003-2004 was based on the same engine. On paper they show less for those self-conscience coupe owners who think they need a faster car.

This has been proven by many many people.

I did a quick search and here is what I have found

I have read things like this before!

In fact, even though its 3.5 litre V6 - yet another variation of the motor used in the Nissan Altima, Maxima, and 350Z as well as other Infinitis - is rated at 260 horsepower compared to the coupe version’s 280, this G was subjectively the fastest iteration of the theme yet, rocketing away from stoplights, mining a thick trough of torque to waft effortlessly past freeway traffic in sixth, and snarling angrily on country-road downshifts. Maybe it was the fact that the sedan’s shifter was beautifully slick and well-weighted (while the Z and G35 coupe both have a clunky, very metallic feel), or the four-door body, which is actually a lot more compact than the coupe’s.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/...t.htm

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

How is your redline at 7500? That's only available on the HR...

The Red Line is 7000 just like yours

but the limiter isn't until 7500rpms...

I know this because I shift between 7300 and 7400 rpms and never hit the limiter..

The HR is 7500 with the limiter at around 8krpms.. I think...

[G37 Man]

get a GT-R and you would not have any problems!