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i am thinking about making my own CF panels to replace the carpet part of the side doors. i will be doing this in about a month and i need a little time to experiment around and make sure i do everything correctly. if these cf panels turn out nice and i post pics would anyone be interested in buying some? im asking now so i can pick up the proper materials depending on who is intersted. i think these will look really good with custom black painted interior which is what i am going to do. so... anyone think they might be interest?


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about how much would these cost?

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it will cost me about $20 just for the cf to make a set and i also have to make molds plus the price of epoxy and everything i need plus labor i think ill ask $50 for a pair but i have no idea i still have to see how much cf is used in one set so the price can always change.

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i dont think it should go over 50 im really just seeing if people are intersted so i can dicide whether its worth putting the time and money into doing this.

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if everything works out i can also make them in colored cf.

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Why not buy complete carbon fibre doors from HPI?

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do u have a link so i could look at this product?

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If they're 50 count me in.

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nice, im pretty sure i will be able to sell them for 50 with out lossing money. i will be away all next week visiting family and then ill need another week or so to do some R&D then we'll see how things turn out

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SWIFT_DRIFT wrote:Why not buy complete carbon fibre doors from HPI?


swift_drift: i cant find these CF doors but i imagine they are for weight savings and r very expensive. mine will be for appearance and to replace the ugly carpet on the doors. correct me if im wrong about that being a full CF door

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http://www.hpi.co.jp/eng-newparts.html

Scroll down to the bottom and LIEK WHAO BATMAN~@!! CARBUN FIBAR DOORZ>!!

There has already been a thread about taking the carpet off the door panels and all that is underneath is more of the plastic vinyl stuff. So all you are doing is covering that up again with CF...HOORAY!!! You know a cool idea would be to remove the carpet and take a glossy black and silver marker then make a bunch of tiny "x"s so it will still look like carbon fiber...

ROFL!

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hey why dont u just go bash sum1 else ok? why are you so upset that people want there cars to look cool? just because it doesnt save u 9kg doesnt mean that you cant have a pleasurable experience every time you get in your car. sorry if you like ghetto painted plastic better then carbon fiber.

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ye areally man i didnt ask for anyone's opinion i asked if anyone was interested in the product. u could had simply not posted or just said "no, im not interested" and it would be alot more helpful. i am just trying to make my interior look nice and professionally done and i was just sharing my ideas with the NICO members. i dont bash on other people's ideas and opinions and i expect the same respect back.

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PA double attack! Hey look how much I care?

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no

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i would look how much u cared but i cant see u. :owned hehe

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i am just trying to make my interior look nice and professionally done and i was just sharing my ideas with the NICO members.

Look nice and professionally done...well new carbon fiber doors would look better and be way more professional than any fake home made insert. Yeah, that's super professional! Good share you ideas, but I can voice my ideas too. My idea is the full doors that own your ***.

i would look how much u cared but i cant see u.

Well said 16 year old! nice car in your profile...remote controlled...ouch. WATCH OUT EVERYONE SNOBAORDER7932475 IS GONNA RULE THE WORLD!

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thanks and the car in the pro was a joke, its 100% real carbon fiber i dont know where you got the idea that its fake. those doors cost like 1000$ and if i remembe correctly they dont make them for S14's which he was making them for anyway

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swift drift u are seriously a f@cking retard! I am in high school and there is no f@cking way im going to blow away a couple thousand dollars on full carbon fibre dorrs!! they are not needed!! dont u understand that im making my interior a little more origonal and to my liking. WTF IS WRONG WITH THAT??? AND Y THE HE!! R U BASHING ON EVERY ****ING THING I SAY?? SERIOUSLY WHATS UR PROBLEM?

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LOL, the three of you should laugh this one off. I've talked with Swift Drift quite a bit. He's a good guy, with some cool cars and lots of knowledge. He just seems to prefer performance over appearance. Guys, don't be offended. Since you can't delete his comments, you can always take your own advice...which is good advice....to not post in reply.

People will always have an opinion, and are free to post their opinions here in 240general. Sometimes we just need to let things slide. Maybe now would be a good time to set your hurt feelings aside, go build your door panels, post up pics and see if you can find a buyer.

-Phil

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yea, that was my last post before i starting to completly ignoring him.

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i cant believe he suggested them doors. LOL. who would buy a whole new door anyway? LOL

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who knows

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Its not as easy as you may think to make that carbon fiber piece that you are thinking of making. Best of luck with it tho and it's really cool that you guys are thinking up things.

The problem with removing that cloth is that there is just a rubber thing underneath it that you have to remove. The problem with removing the rubber it (you have to cut it out with an xacto knife) is that you lose that rounded edge that the piece has with the cloth. I have already done this in my s-13 with fiberglass, along with the glovebox. You have to make an sturdy (dosn't flex and is somewhat heat resistant) exact model of a smooth (cant use the stock piece as a model) piece. then once you have a perfect female mold you can make the proposed piece. Its just a pain in the *** getting that model. Once you remove the fabric there is nothing really there that you can take a mold of, just a really cheap looking, dimpled piece of furry (from the foam under the cloth and rubber) plastic. Same goes for the glove box as well. It is possible because I did do it succesfully but its not an easy job. I spent around 18hours in labor just making the perfect mold for the s-13 glove box! It might not really be worth your effort to be charging $50 bucks for the complete sets. I actually get a pretty good deal on composites and just the cost of the carbon fiber itself without the resin or mold making cost, release agent, tools, etc will be around $20. factor in all the other things and you might be shooting yourself in the foot. Try and make the model first, then a mold, then a piece for your car. Dont go out and buy 100 yards of carbon fiber because people on the net said that they were interested, you stand to lose a lot of money that way. Once you have your finished product and a mold to reproduce, and know your actual cost (this is alot more than just the price of the carbon fiber cloth), then ask if anyone is interested and buy materials for them if it materializes.

I hope you dont take offence to my suggestions I am jsut trying to give you some tips on how to make your panels from what i learned when i made mine. I do produce composite pieces and sell them on the net from time to time(i.e. s-13 fixed projector headlight), and I have learned a little bit from my experience with it. Just trying to give you some tips to avoid some costly mistakes.

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If they turn out as good as these did for the MR2, I'd be interested.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4289574477

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Good luck!!!!

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Fawaz: thanks for the the suggestions. that is a very big help, especially coming from someone who is experianced in this process. after reading ur post i have gathered a few new ideas about how to make a mold. and i was not planning on buying 100 yards of cf, that is way outa my league. i was just asking for intrest to see if i could actually make some business with this and then buy a yard or to to practice with. thanks again for all the help.

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i would be interested if this is for the s13, don't think i caught what model this was for...

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i would be interested if it was for an s14, but i would want to see what they look like before i commit. good luck, chris

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I would be interested for the s13.


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