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My friend has just got into an accident with this one guy. He crashed him from the rear and caused the car he crashed to crash the guy infront of him. So the guy my friend crashed has both bumpers severly damaged.My questions are 1). will he have to go to insurance company, or can he just pay the damages off the record? 2). Will he have to pay for the front bumper? 3). Will my friend have to pay for the paint job of the bumpers too?

-thanks guys i hope i get feedback on this.


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if he wasn't at fault he won't have to pay anything...unless his insurance charges him a fixed premium.

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he crashed the guy from behind so he was at fault

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Your friend will either have to pay for everything, including the other car thats damaged. The person who causes a rear end collision is at fault 99% of the time. If your friend opts not to pay for all of the damaging and paint and everything to make the car "like new" again, I'm sure his insurance company will be getting a call.

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Lost_To_A_K-Car wrote:You have three cars.

Car one rear ended car two, which caused car two to rear end car three.

Your friend was in car one. Correct so far?

Under every state statue that I've ever seen, the driver of the car which rear-ends another car is at fault, even if he was rear ended by another car, causing the accident. The legal theory behind this is that you must be in control of your vehicle at all times.

So, your friend will be at fault for the Car One->Car Two accident, but not for the Car Two->Car Three accident.

Your friend's insurance agent will be able to confirm this.

Never, ever, ever go around the insurance company in the event of an accident. Two months from now, the driver of car two can claim injury, and sue your friend. If he failed to report the accident to the insurance company, they're going to leave him twisting in the wind.


Nah....if somebody rearends you causing you to rearend somebody else (chain collision), it is *all* the person in the back's fault.

My mom just had this happen to her last year. She got rearended by somebody causing a 5 car accident (she was 4th back). The 5th person backed up and took off and left it to look like my mom was the back person. Nobody got a ticket. The person who took off was arrested 6 months later.

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thnks k car. Has anyone ever told you you sound like a lawyer? haha . I have one more question for you k car, since my friend is not at fault for car number 3, will he have to pay for the front bumper of car number 2? btw my friend was i car number one

-thnks guy for the feedback

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As KCar said, your friend may be held jointly liable for the car2>car 3 collision. If he hadn't struck car 2, car would have never struck car 3 (all this is based on AZ caselaw). It's up to the issuing officer who gets cited, but it sounds like your buddy is in deep doo-doo.

He won't have to pay for anything, but his insurance company will. He can expect to be dropped like a hot rock and have his insurance rates go through the roof now. Both driver 2 and 3 are likely to go for pain and suffering, which can add up rapidly.

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What if you are at a stoplight and someone backs into you, almost happened before. I was a pretty good distance from this lady in a jeep, some guy pulls up alittle ahead of me, she looks back and knows the guy and starts backing up completely ignoring the fact that Iam behind her, I look up and realize she is not going to stop because she is 2 ignorant to realize someone is behind her, so I honk my horn and it scares the **** out of her and she slams her brakes.

Anyways my question is, if she backed into me, would it be considered her fault or mine(since her back hit my front)?

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That'd be a tough one. If no one stayed around as a witness, she could theoretically say you hit her, and most cops are gonna buy that as the more plausible explanation for any damage.

Great reason to invest in a set of loud-a$$ horns.

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Or invest in a camera like the cops have in their cars. :) So they can plainly see who hit who..

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my friend does not want to call his insurance company, hes stubborn and his dad would get mad, and all 3 cars left be4 the cops came. So he is asking me if he would have to pay for the front bumper. What do you guys think bc he isnt planning to go to the insurance company at all.

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and would he have to pay for car 3's damages too?

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He's an idiot.

If he had hit me, I'd give it a few days then show up at my attorney's office with a description of the driver and plate # of the car that hit me, some mystery injuries and photos of my car's damage.

Did I mention he's an idiot? Whatever his dad will do to him is chump change compared to what a personal injury attorney will do. Besides, he committed a crime by leaving the scene of an accident (yes, even though the others left that does NOT give hime the right to). The victims will say he bailed and so they left later.

He's an idiot.

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they guy he hit in car 2 does not speak english. so im not sure if hell go to an attorney. My friends just wants to know if he has to pay for any dammages made to the front of car 2, since he isnt at fault for the Car Two->Car Three accident

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No, see, he's liable for Car Two, all of Car Two, just not Car Three. Thats what I was trying to tell you...

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Perhaps he's not the only idiot here...

Let me be clearer: Understand that he doesn't have to pay for s*** if he keeps hiding from the crime he committed. Even if he DOES the right thing and calls his ins. co., HE won't be the one to pay, the ins. co. will.

Does driver 2 know who your friend is? Does driver 3 know who your friend is? Was he cited? He left the scene of an accident, so there's the bigger concern. He most certainly IS at fault for the 2<3 collision, as it would not have occurred if he were not an idiot.

p.s. It's a well-known fact that Non-English Speakers are 27 times MORE likely to scramble for an attorney. After all, this is the "Land of Opportunity".

Maybe KCar can explain this better - I thought I was perfectly clear before...

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sorry if i am idiot guys , but my friend just wants to pay the guy he rear ended off the record. He knows hes responsible for the rear damgaes of car no2 so hes paying all rear damages. But hes puzzled whether or not to pay for cars no2 front damages. I told him what you guys said be he keeps telling me to ask this.

-thnks guys for taking the time to reply to this :)

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AAAAAUGH! He IS at fault for ALL damage to car 2, and car 3. Here's why:

Put it this way. If I hit you with my 4300-lb Q45 at 160 mph and your car blows up and the shrapnel from your car flies into a nearby house and breaks a window, I AM AT FAULT and the window is MY insurance company's responsibility.

The officer issuing the citation (none) had the OPTION of citing driver 2 for being too close to driver 3 (but he didn't) so your buddy is on the hook for all three cars, 4 bumpers, and two whiplash injuries.

OOPS - You edited your post on me.

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S13GUY, if you are a real friend you will make him report it, lets look why.

IF HE REPORTS: -Insurances pays for damages -All cars are fixed, including his if full coverage -Wreckless driving ticket -Dad is mad

IF HE DOES NOT REPORT: -Goes to jail -Insurance will no cover nothing -Insurance will possibly drop him -Lawsuits filed, he is in debt for a VERY VERY long time -Did I mention goes to jail and now HAS a criminal record -Parents are even more pissed -License suspended for a LONG time -TrueSlide kills him for being a bad driver (thanks Az :thumbup)

Now if you are a good friend(and he cares alittle about himself) you will make him report his accident.

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IF he pays for the rear of #2 he should then also pay for the front as well. He may not be so willing once he sees estimates - even a 5mph tap can do $500+ in damages to most newer cars...

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BTW the car no 3 dissapeared, he didnt get anyones info from the car accident

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Well said, TrueSlide.

But you forgot one more possible consequence of not reporting:

"TrueSlide kills him for being a bad driver." :D

(sorry - couldn't resist)

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Betcha Car #3 didn't have insurance or a driver's license (or was DUI).

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this is what my friend said on aim:

SufferPrivation:how does anyone know that the escort hit the volvo first?SufferPrivation: or I hit the escort first?SufferPrivation: theres no proof

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TrueSlide wrote:S13GUY, if you are a real friend you will make him report it, lets look why.

IF HE REPORTS: -Insurances pays for damages -All cars are fixed, including his if full coverage -Wreckless driving ticket -Dad is mad

IF HE DOES NOT REPORT: -Goes to jail -Insurance will no cover nothing -Insurance will possibly drop him -Lawsuits filed, he is in debt for a VERY VERY long time -Did I mention goes to jail and now HAS a criminal record -Parents are even more pissed -License suspended for a LONG time -TrueSlide kills him for being a bad driver (thanks Az :thumbup)

Now if you are a good friend(and he cares alittle about himself) you will make him report his accident.


Truslide TY TY. I my friend needed that thorough explanation. Now he wants to know what he would go to jail for.

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Fixed Az :)

S13GUY, you friend is a MORON, we are trying to help HIM, he asks for help, we give him help and a guiding light, but yet he wants to question all of the help he is recieving, tell mr. poindexter to stfu and follow the advice, if not Iam sure awhile in jail will tell him he should of listened. Hardheaded ignorance is what seems to plaque your friend.

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well he drives a non turbo 1987 supra

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Nope - But even if #2 hit #3 first, then he hit #2 as a result of the sudden deceleration, he still FLED THE SCENE!

Sounds like he just wants to be a chicken-s***. No wonder the rest of us pay such high insurance rates. HE KNOWS he caused the accident - If he can sleep well at night, then there's nothing anyone can do.

The OJ Defense: "There's no proof."

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Hmm, how bout destruction of property, leaving the scene of a accident(not taken lightly, especially here in VA), then they will charge him with wreckless driving, and probley a handful of other charges that will have him carving his name and some lines on the wall of a 6 x 6 cell.

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TS - You've just redeemed yourself in my book - LMAO.

He's lucky he didn't hit my car - I'd drag his a$$ home to Daddy and we'd take turns beating his spoiled whiney Supra-driving a$$ to a pulp.

Like TS said - Tell him to STFU.


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